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FYI: 5mm spacers negate hubcentric-ness, cause drama and sadness

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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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FYI: 5mm spacers negate hubcentric-ness, cause drama and sadness

I recently tried a set of H&R 5mm spacers on the front of my car. The 5mm spacers don't have the hub "lip" but they sit on the lip on the hub of the car. (refer to spacer in the bottom-right of the pic)

A common misconception (that I subscribed to, too) is that there is enough lip from the hub of the car for the wheel to fit on. Well, there isn't. The result is vibration at 48-55 mph and VIOLENT vibration when braking from highway speeds.

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Remove them altogether or use 10mm spacers which have the requisite lip. (refer to the spacer in the bottom-center of the pic)







On a related note: 5mm H&R hub spacers, like new, with box for sale...cheap.

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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Use of ANY sort of spacer on a Mercedes is a very dumb idea.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by lkchris
Use of ANY sort of spacer on a Mercedes is a very dumb idea.
So insightful.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by lkchris
Use of ANY sort of spacer on a Mercedes is a very dumb idea.

so not true.......
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Wait, are these wheel spacers? can they be used to push the rear tires out a little bit further to make it look staggered without actually being staggered? If so, how much do they cost and who has done it sucessfully. I have the same size tires in front and rear, but the rear look like they are to far into the wheel well.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate
Wait, are these wheel spacers? can they be used to push the rear tires out a little bit further to make it look staggered without actually being staggered? If so, how much do they cost and who has done it sucessfully. I have the same size tires in front and rear, but the rear look like they are to far into the wheel well.
Yup. That's one of the "secrets" of the tuning game.

They cost about $75-95/pair.

Remember, using spacers will require you to buy longer bolts to maintain enough thread in the hub to keep your wheel on tight. Eibach spacers actually come with a new set of longer bolts, but also cost more.



More info: http://www.hrsprings.com/site/products/trak.html


There are compromises that go along with the enhanced look. The center of the wheel is now moved away from the car putting abnormal stresses on bearings and such.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CQHall
Yup. That's one of the "secrets" of the tuning game.

They cost about $75-95/pair.

Remember, using spacers will require you to buy longer bolts to maintain enough thread in the hub to keep your wheel on tight. Eibach spacers actually come with a new set of longer bolts, but also cost more.



More info: http://www.hrsprings.com/site/products/trak.html


There are compromises that go along with the enhanced look. The center of the wheel is now moved away from the car putting abnormal stresses on bearings and such.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
Eibach makes spacers?

Last edited by Whitey; Jan 29, 2007 at 09:30 PM.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Eibach makes spacers?
Yup.

http://www.coximport.com/eibach/pro-spacer.html



But, I prefer H&R.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 11:49 PM
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Has anyone successfully installed spacers on a lowered vehicle and had no problems and/or abnormal vibrations?
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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Has anyone successfully installed spacers on a lowered vehicle and had no problems and/or abnormal vibrations?
I have.

I'm running spacers (10mm front and 12mm rear) now with no problems or vibrations. I ran 15mm spacers on my Audi just fine.

The key is to stay hubcentric. The 5mm is not hubcentric.
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So all 5mm spacers from the factories do not have hubcentric rings? What if 10mm is too excessive and one needs 5mm? I've had 5mm spacers with hubcentric rings before but they're custom-made...no problems whatsoever.
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So all 5mm spacers from the factories do not have hubcentric rings? What if 10mm is too excessive and one needs 5mm? I've had 5mm spacers with hubcentric rings before but they're custom-made...no problems whatsoever.
I can't speak for all manufacturers. I'm just talking about the H&R 5mm spacer part number: 1055665.

If the ones you had custom-made are hubcentric, then you should have no problem.
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