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this is why you should buy a 2000 up e class...

Old Aug 28, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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this is why you should buy a 2000 up e class...

check out these two crash test video and decide for yourself.

2000 up e class:
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1996-1999 e class:
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Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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holy**** that 2nd vid isn't pretty

so what were the exact changes on 00+ cars?
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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this link give you a little more info on the crashes. 2000 up rate as GOOD. Pre 2000 rates as ACCEPTABLE. the pre 2000 does look pretty bad.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=315
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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gee thanks a lot LOL.
Well what speeds are those tested at anyways? My wife got into an accident 3 years ago, rear ended a truck so the grille/headlights/hood/fenders were all damaged going at 35mph..but the damage really stopped right before it hit the engine :whew: Stupid mother in a van 3 cars up slammed her brakes for nothing so the truck (with a lift) behind her slammed his brakes too...so by then my wife's reaction was too late She's alright now.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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I own a 1999 W210 Mercedes.
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damn thats not very cool haha. Well i guess we pre-2000 w210 drivers need to be more careful haha. SUCKS!
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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So exactly what is the differance. Same body style W210. Are you saying the 2000-2002 is better. I like my 1999.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by E420SportGT
gee thanks a lot LOL.
Well what speeds are those tested at anyways? My wife got into an accident 3 years ago, rear ended a truck so the grille/headlights/hood/fenders were all damaged going at 35mph..but the damage really stopped right before it hit the engine :whew: Stupid mother in a van 3 cars up slammed her brakes for nothing so the truck (with a lift) behind her slammed his brakes too...so by then my wife's reaction was too late She's alright now.
those test were done at 40mph and only 40 percent of the total width of each vehicle strikes a barrier on the driver side. real world crashes are different.

another dangerous woman driver on road with a w210:

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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ProV1
so what were the exact changes on 00+ cars?
this question have probably come up many times, what are the differences from 2000+ and pre2000. its easy to spot changes such as bumpers, headlights, grilles and things like that. But from these two crashes, its pretty obvious they have stiffen up the pillars on 2000+ which added a ton of integrity to the frame. well i am just glad i am driving a 2000.

for 1996-1999 owners, you will have to drive 10mph slower to get the same crash results as us 2000+ owners.
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Old Aug 29, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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this strategically placed brace on the drivers side of E55's make them safer.

Who has this metal brace and who does not? I have no idea what it is? It was not on my 1998 E430. Hmmmm! Perhaps it is to keep E55 drivers from pushing their foot through the floor board on acceleration and braking.

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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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I noticed 3 things in this video:

1- She never dropped the cigarette from her mouth as she plowed into the barrier post.
2- The car was remarkably 'unscathed' by the incident.
3- She never paid for her parking!
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dan_cobb
1- She never dropped the cigarette from her mouth as she plowed into the barrier post.
2- The car was remarkably 'unscathed' by the incident.
3- She never paid for her parking!
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4- (not shown on video) Cops knocking on her door.
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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dan_cobb
1- She never dropped the cigarette from her mouth as she plowed into the barrier post.
2- The car was remarkably 'unscathed' by the incident.
3- She never paid for her parking!
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sounds like Britney
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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ahahh there is a I believe AAA commercial with a woman in an Altima that did that but was trying to throw her empty coffee cup instead..and she rams into the gate..why would people in autos step on the gas when their foot is on the brake? I hate to say it because I own an E420, but I hate automatics...
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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yeah...what changes were made?
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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yes get the 2000 and up, because everyone does that occasional 40mph into a brick wall.....
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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I think you'd be better off choosing that brick wall at 40 than that semi at 65.

Your comment suggests you have little or no faith in crash test results.

I think they should be considered very significant by a car buyer who puts any of their family members in it on the freeway.

I have a 2001 for many reasons.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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I dont like how everyone tries to break down each others comments, it was just a comment nothing more. I live in Indiana, we've got more dump trucks, semis of the 2 and 4 wheel steering variety, cement trucks, and boom trucks crawling around then probably california highways. I dont really see how i could go 65 in a parked truck seeing as i live less than 100ft from a industrail park and nothings happened in teh past 10 years except a trucker got hit by a train. In indiana half of the 30 hour drivers ed course is how to drive when boxed in or behind a wall of semis.

I think my comment suggests some driver logic since i like to pay attention to whats in front of me.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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I live in Indiana, we've got more dump trucks, semis of the 2 and 4 wheel steering variety, cement trucks, and boom trucks crawling around then probably california highways.
I dont think your state necessarily has more semi's, but the the ratio (trucks/cars) is much higher than californias. I personally beleive truck drivers are some of the best drivers, as long as you give them enough space so that they can see you.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Any way you cut it, offset impacts are nasty. The best thing any of us can do it so drive with our eyes on the road. Stop *** with the cellphone, radio, GPS, newspaper (yup, saw it last week), donuts, or work.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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I didn't convert the comment into anything that it wasn't already.

People that are openly concerned with vehicle safety are no more likely to drive wrecklessly or to be distracted by the radio (ipod, phone, newspaper, make-up, etc.) than you or I.

Bad drivers are out there. Too bad for those of us that are paying attention, but it is true.

I'm NEVER worried about MY driving being the cause of an accident; I am more concerned about the morons on the road that are not paying attention, and thus more likely to run into me while I am stopped at a light, driving straight in my own lane, pulling to the right for a fire truck, ambulance, etc. etc.

For me it's no different than wanting seatbelts, ABS, or for that matter cruise control, power windows, or any other option that is available that I can afford to have.

BTW, an offset crash is far more likely to occur than a direct head-on collision because most people would try to steer away from the oncoming car when they see it. Therefore this type of crash testing (as seen above) is more realistic than one might initially think.

Oh, one more thing Max,
The population of the entire state of Indiana is less than 7 million people. The population of Los Angeles alone is nearly 20 million. The chances of there being more trucks on the road in Indiana vs California is not that likely.
We probably have over 7 million people on the roads in CA at any given time.
That's a lot of potential idiots behind the wheel that can run into you while you are paying attention. I'm glad my 2001 e320 is stronger than previous years of the same model.
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I said around here cause i live next to an industrail park that makes home to thousands of semi trucks and its next to the I-65 highway which makes almost as many semi's to cars. I said around here not the whole state. But we arent here to discuss trucks that was just my comment on the 65 into a semi remark
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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that 97 e420 does not have side impact airbags, you could get side impact airbags as an option on the 98 and 99's. A more apt comparison would be a 97 vs 98+ with side impact airbags. The facelift did not improve safety that drastically.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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found this article but not sure at what speed the e320 was going when crash. its obvious its a 1996-1999 model. the e320 hit a tree on the passenger side and the passenger died, driver lived. would 2000+ e320 fair any better in this accident?

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/ne...7-1374077.html
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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on the last paragraph of this article, it tells you a little bit of the improvements for the 2000+ mercedes.

http://www.fastlane.com.au/Safety/MB_C320E430_tops.htm
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