joeg_irev

I am looking for info on putting a turbo on a 96. Is there a significant different in the compression ratio between the 96-97 and 98-99 models? Does anyone know of a bone yard in or near Colorado?
I would think using the same intake and exhaust would be a great starting point.

lkchris

More than it would take to trade for an E420 or, better yet, an E430.

That's, of course, BEFORE you put on the turbo. AFTER the turbo your resale value is zero.

E-Klasse

I think he is talking upgrading his Diesel engines instead of going for a Gas model. Maybe one of the Diesel owners will reply.

azurE430

jack up the car on all four with proper stands. remove all four tires and wheels. now bolt tires and wheels on car with turbo already and call it a day.

Zackb911

Exactly- No way would it be cost effective or worth it.... Sell your car and buy a 98-99

ReZzZ320

trust me anything can be done cept no one here believes that

lxl_Jeffro_lxl

It's easier purchasing a 99' E300 TurboDiesel as is..

Then you have to change computer settings etc, which will be very hard to do.

Also, I love mine and encourage you do get the same!

Zackb911

Of course it "could" be done. Is it smart, practical, or cost effective? Hell No

azurE430

yeah and what would it take to turn my 98E430 in to 2003 jaguar? I know this can be done, anything can be done, has any member done this conversion and maybe can steer me in the right direction?........(like down to the nearest bar that pours doubles).

ReZzZ320

who cares as long as it works and IS different

Zackb911

People who aren't rich care, and since most of us here are not rich, I would assume he does.

Different? Ahh we aren't talking anything special here....
It would be a butchered car, there is no value in such a thing. It would be worth little, to no more than his car now, and would still not be worth what a 98-99 is.

ReZzZ320

who says u have to be rich to do things differenty??

and what makes you think there are people who wont buy butchered cars at all?? I'm surprised you guys think modifying your cars would cause a drop in resale value when the car's already losing value as you drive it.

So I don't believe that putting a turbo on a diesel E-class is gonna accelerate the depreciation of your car anymore than leaving it stock

and within the topic of forced-induced benzes. Take a look at mercedesshop.com's forums and see how they force-induce their cars like a supercharged E320 or even a twin-turbo'd E320 and they managed to pull these off for less than the price of a Kleemann or HPS supercharger

Zackb911

I said he would most likely care, because he most likely is not rich, and it would be expensive to do.

True some people will buy a butchered car, MOST people will not. (some only means more than 1)

It is not accellerating the depriciation we are talking about, it's ever seeing a fraction of your investment back. This in fact could also create many problems in regards to resale.

It is not a simple "bolt on a turbo". It includes much more. Just because a couple skilled people did a DIY turbo setup on a gasser does not mean; he could, it is cost effective, or advisable.

Those people do not have the option of selling their cars and buying the same model a year newer already with a turbo, HE DOES.



Just buy a 98-99 if you really want the turbo

ReZzZ320

why the hell do you assume that I am rich??? get that stereotype off your head.

I guess if he really did not think it was gonna be feasable he wouldn't take advice from such naysayers as you guys. I mean all you people talk are the many little screwups on your cars and it's rare when someone starts a thread about upgrades to their cars.

Plus how do you know if he has the option to buy a newer car? Maybe he doesn't have that option. Most people who will mod their cars to the extreme will buy another car if they wanted to.

And if you notice the people who actually do the turbo and supercharger setups aren't exactly mechanics but regular guys who would want to work on their cars and have a lil bit of extra driving fun, plus I dnt think they'll care if they lose resale value at all.

oh and just to show that it's not really old beaters that have been used in these performance modifications take a look at this pic


that's an LS1 installed on a 2002 E320

Zackb911

You really do not think logically, nor did you follow what I said. I also never called you rich or alluded to any stereotype.

Again mounting an LS1 successfully in a W210 is not easy nor within the means of 90%+ of the W210 owners, because 1 person is doing/or did it means nothing for this guy. Not too mention we have various strict emmisions/modification laws in the US depending on where you live.

Summation:
The turbo is not a smart idea, you can buy a 98-99 far cheaper and easier. Please don't listen to this clueless guy above.

ReZzZ320

since when did you become the OT poster's spokesperson???

EdzBenz

It is not worth putting a turbo on your car. You're better off buying a 99' E300. I'll +1 with Zach on my satisfaction with the engine in the car. It is awesome. You would have to switch out so many engine parts with the non-turbo OM606 engine, it would not be worth it.

ReZzZ320

you guys are really embarassing and know nuthing about the techincal side of cars.

And for those who want to prove me wrong PM the OT instead of acting like idiots

Zackb911

Dear god we have another TommyGunn...

Why don't you tell him exactly what it takes, parts, cost, etc... Wait you have no idea do you? Thats what I thought... You don't even own a diesel e300 yourself.

It has most likely never been done before and there is an EXCELLENT reason, he can just go out today and buy a 98 or 99 instead

ReZzZ320

can't argue with that can we smarta$$

Zackb911

Converting a Mercedes to run on VO is far easier and cheaper than turning a non turbo 606 into a turbo 606 properly. I have done several VO conversions on MB's, Cummins, Etc. In addition engine swaps can many times be; easier and cheaper than what he proposed above, especially if they've been done before or conversion components available.

The engine swap or VO conversion are different, they do not have the option of going out and just buying one from the factory, like you can do with the turbo E300!

Again as I stated could he? Yes, anything is possible. Is it worth it or advisable? NO

ReZzZ320

any engine can be forced induced and there isn't a big difference between the n/a 606 to the turbo 606 in their internals but you're not thinking outside the box because you are basing the statements on the U.S market and not other foreign markets such as europe or asia where conversions are dime a dozen.

Like I said have a look at mercedesshop.com's forums and see for yourself

Zackb911

He is in Colorado why wouldn't we be basing this on US markets

azurE430

lets all get a can of krylon and paint are grille flat black and go and pick up some disco tinted light covers and brag that we can convert anything. give it up. its not worth converting and its not worth even arguing about it. mods are ok, but not when the end result is ending up with a POOP BOX! at twice the cost.

ReZzZ320

define POOP BOX

jeez this site's got more old farts than a retirement home