blackstarr777

Anyone have 19's on there (W210) if so what width of the rim and combination tire size give you the best ride i dont want to compromise my smooth ride.

ohlord

don't go to 19's

BoS7463

ohlord is right def dont go to 19s lol, i have 18" amgs and deep potholes or any significant pothole = bad rubbing

raymond g-

right recommendation, but for the wrong reason. the reason for the rub is
because you have wheels with the wrong offset, width and/or incorrectly sized
tires.

if you currently have 16" rims and going for 19" you will lose 3" in rubber/cushion.
if you have 17"...you'll lose 2", and so forth.

it's the sidewall height which contributes to the attenuation of noise, vibration,
harshness which may be too fine to be dampened by the shocks/springs.

blackstarr777

So can you recommend the correct wheels offset and width i can get i will probably go to 18's now.

ohlord

* Wheel Size(front) 8.0J x 18 in
* Wheel Size(rear) 9.0J x 18 in
* Tires 245/40ZR18 front, 275/35ZR18 rear
et 35 rear ,31 front.
you won't need the z rated tires and may want to look into the proper pads,raymond is the pad guru
always best to err on the conservative side in case of any future brand changes of tire,while standardized they do vary in design width.
test fit with a full load and be aware that 18's will lessen your ride quailty.
ohlord
have fun is the main thing
shop used,plenty of great deals on craigslist and w210 member forums.

acarter53

Just a word of caution. I just did this exercise and Tire Rack recommends 235 for the front and a 265 for the rear. I have this setup and have no rubbing issues at all. If you match the E55 sizes you will rub.

ohlord

on the conservative side....is why I pointed out max and to check installed,tire for tire a 275 is only about 1/3 inch wider at the mid point,so at least go with the old school rule of a min of 1/2 inch clearence to the fender lip to allow for body and suspension shift.
So good point on the 265's and that will allow room for other brand tires in the future without issues.


thinking of tubbing my wagon and putting on a set of Michelin 335/35-18

FlatlineEF9

Yeah, dont go 19s, the ride is too harsh. You wont rub with the right rim/tire combo though. If ride is your concern, either leave the stockies or go 17s. 18s were okay too, i ran 18 inch AMGS and the ride was very nice, even lowered on eibachs. but at 19s you have to start dodging potholes.

FlatlineEF9

you can also run 18x9 front and back with 235/40/18 ET 35. I did it on mine, and it didnt rub at all. Tire rack advised against it, but i still had clearence without spacers. If you ever like to rotate tires, you can do this.

acarter53

Wow, I remember when 275 was a monster of a tire. I also remember when I purchased a set of 15" 5 stars rims and put the huge 205/65/15's on. I was too cool.

ohlord

we had the first 1977 320i bmw in wa state and I remember how cool the dunlop 205/60/13's I put on looked
ohlord

nsupra

Is it ok to go with 235-40-18 Front and 275-35-18 Rear? I have 18 inch amg's on a e430 and the fronts rub. What is the reason and issue as to why it rubs on the 320 and 430?

OldNate

yeah, i had 18s and they were tolerable. Now i have 19s and i dodge pot holes lol. Don't go with 19s.

raymond g-

may folks make simple assumptions and neglect the fact that you need a three-
dimensional picture when swapping out rims. stats needed include offset (which
determines if the wheel is centered within the wheel well (simplistically worded),
the wheel width, the tire width, and the height of the tire (and profile, for nit-
pickers).

too low an offset and the tire sticks out into the fender and possibly rubbing
the wheel arch or fender liner. too high an offset and the tire may rub against
a suspension part. offset okay but wheel too wide or poor tire selection may
also contribute to rubbing.

so, in answer to the above, the likely scenario is that the rims are too wide,
too high ET, or low an ET. since you didn't identify these specs, nor did you
identify where the rubbing is occuring, it's difficult to conclude the 'why.'

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nsupra

Thanks for the information. The rubbing i get is on the outter portion of the tire when i go over a big dip on road at 40 mph or faster. These Wheels are 18' OEM AMG from the w210 e55. Not sure of the specs of the AMG rims. But yeah the E55 i know uses factory 245-40-18 in front and 275-35-18 and thats what im using with michelin pilot sports. Im just wondering what the reason is for rubbing with that tire setup on the 430's and 320 and if its ok to use 235 front and 275 rear and not change to 265 thats all. Is the reason for the rubbing because of the different track width up front or something?

raymond g-

ahhhh!

it's rubbing because you're using the E55 take offs which, in the front, have an
ET of 31 (pretty sure). what you've not listed is the wheel width, which I
believe is going to be 8.5". mix these two with the large front tire and you
get....tuh-duh!......rubbing of the fender lip (wheel arch). if it is bad, it'll begin
to slice the outside edge of your tire. look for little dangling slivers of rubber,
as the wheel lip is sharp and stick out.

possible solutions:

- dont lower (any more)
- increase spring pad to next higher (pads are < $20 each)
- install HD shocks (about $100 @)
- switch to 235...or 225, if you really must ($ several hundred- depends on tire)
- get new wheels of proper offset ($$)

i'm not sure of the answer for the rear. 265 is very okay. i've not had the
opportunity to see 275 on the rear of a 210 so unable to advise. too cold
outside to go look underneath to see if it will withstand another 5mm each
side.

afterthought: you can try rolling the fender lip. that will get you a scootch
more clearance. i'd say about 2-3 mm. (< $100)

ohlord

18 by 8 et31 front---18by 9 et 35 rear
E55 had a different track
a 235 is going to give you about 1/3 inch more so rolling the fender should give you the needed room.

acarter53

I was told by Tire Rack that you must run 235 in front and 265 in rear in order to have no issues. I have no issues. and 265 looks plenty wide.

raymond g-

yeah, that's true...but don't you need to halve that since the 10mm
differential, ie 245 v 235, is the total width of the tire? once it's on the
rim, it'll be 5mm less on the outside, and 5mm less on the inside of the
tire, right?....about the width of a BBgun pellet

(challenging to think clearly...on nyquil)

ohlord

so maybe the pad shuffle and roll the lip is needed or don't go over bumps at 40mph.

SilE50

http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...ad.php?t=27523

seems like e55 and all amg have their fenders rolled from factory...

nsupra

Yes exactly i have E55 take off's. My spring pads already are 5 and 4 i believe or vice versa i forget if the front is higher or rear is.

If the road is uneven and there is a dip in it 40 mph + will make it rub. Usually this will occur on the highway or like a road that goes up hill and around a turn. Basically anything that has uneven surface. The result is aways little dangling pieces of rubber on the outer tire. The back is perfect no problems with the 275. Im thinking rolling the fenders should be the answer. I guess 235's wont fix the problem fully with the route i want to take. I am interested in putting bilstein sport shocks along with H&R springs. Or maybe E55 springs.