A & B Service
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1999 E430 Sedan
A & B Service
Folks:
What exactly does the dealer do for each of these services? Can I do these services myself and save some bucks?
Thanks for your help.
Joe
What exactly does the dealer do for each of these services? Can I do these services myself and save some bucks?
Thanks for your help.
Joe
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This is a general list
applies to most models.
http://www.geocities.com/mymercedesb...e_a_and_b.html
A lot of inspection and yes you can diy.
benzworld.org for some
oil change #2 on mercedesshop.com
generally looking around under the hood when you have it open to admire the engine
You can pick up the suction tank for the oil change at harbor freight tools,or Griots or topsider.
a good set of tools and you are on your way.
pm me if you need more tips
www.autohausaz.com for excellent prices on parts
never go to a shop for anything until you ask here or on benzworld.org
someone someplace will have what you need or know where to get it or how to fix it.
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http://www.geocities.com/mymercedesb...e_a_and_b.html
A lot of inspection and yes you can diy.
benzworld.org for some
oil change #2 on mercedesshop.com
generally looking around under the hood when you have it open to admire the engine
You can pick up the suction tank for the oil change at harbor freight tools,or Griots or topsider.
a good set of tools and you are on your way.
pm me if you need more tips
www.autohausaz.com for excellent prices on parts
never go to a shop for anything until you ask here or on benzworld.org
someone someplace will have what you need or know where to get it or how to fix it.
ohlord
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dressing is very important.It's the fact that most willing members with common sense can carry them out without paying over a hundred an hour to have some jimmoke look at a fan belt
I call it a glorified oil change
0w40 mobil syn and a fleece filter
How many miles on the car?might be time for plugs.
time to change your trans fluid and filter,mb spec fluid only.
ohlord
I call it a glorified oil change
0w40 mobil syn and a fleece filter
How many miles on the car?might be time for plugs.
time to change your trans fluid and filter,mb spec fluid only.
ohlord
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1999 E430 Sedan
Understood that it is important, but I think that I could handle the inspections. The oil change could be done by my local auto center with Mobil one and proper filter for a fraction of the cost. I could reset the mileage alert light myself.
I have 55K original miles on the vehicle. I have already had plugs done a while back by the dealer. I never had the tranny done. I asked the dealer about this and his answer was as was posted elsewhere that tranny is sealed for life. I thought that odd and may either do it my self or have my local shop do it. The fluid and filter were never changed. The car runs well and shifts well.
Thanks for the input.
Joe
I have 55K original miles on the vehicle. I have already had plugs done a while back by the dealer. I never had the tranny done. I asked the dealer about this and his answer was as was posted elsewhere that tranny is sealed for life. I thought that odd and may either do it my self or have my local shop do it. The fluid and filter were never changed. The car runs well and shifts well.
Thanks for the input.
Joe
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2001 E220T CDI Avantgarde, 2002 E55T AMG
after 55k miles it's time to change transmission fluid and filter, no matter what the dealer says. New and old fluid will never be the same no matter how much the system is sealed.
A good deal is to change ATF AND filter every second or at least third service if you follow your cars service intervals. That runs down to about every 20-25k/30-35k miles.
A good deal is to change ATF AND filter every second or at least third service if you follow your cars service intervals. That runs down to about every 20-25k/30-35k miles.
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That dealer
is an ***.MB has updated the info and now includes the change in later model service intervals,and a lot of dealers are up to date that the early 722.6 trans need fluid and filter changes.Diy on benzworld.org or mercedesshop.com
your local service center most likely does not carry 0w40 mobil 1 syn euro formula and the proper fleece filter,diy will cost you about $60 for oil and filter.
I have to laugh
here is a dealer that won't do a trans service yet changed 16 spark plugs to the tune of $$$$$$$$4-5 hundred? when they are 100k mile replacement items.You could do your own plugs for $50 and a few tools on a Saturday morning.
Diy the trans(you will need the special dipstick pm me)and your 99 has a drain plug for the converter so most of the fluid can be drained out.
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your local service center most likely does not carry 0w40 mobil 1 syn euro formula and the proper fleece filter,diy will cost you about $60 for oil and filter.
I have to laugh
here is a dealer that won't do a trans service yet changed 16 spark plugs to the tune of $$$$$$$$4-5 hundred? when they are 100k mile replacement items.You could do your own plugs for $50 and a few tools on a Saturday morning.Diy the trans(you will need the special dipstick pm me)and your 99 has a drain plug for the converter so most of the fluid can be drained out.
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the recommendation from MB is now 60 000km/ ~37 000 miles. Still think it's a bit to long. But depends on where you live and how you use your car. it's big variations in temperature that is the problem, so if you live in a very warm area and have few cold starts the fluid may last that long. If you live in a cold area and have lots of cold starts you the fluid doesn't last longer than 30 000km/~19000miles.
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I was quoted
$270 by the MB dealer to replace AT fluid and filter. I was thinking about doing the job my self after the excellent post with pics on this forum. But going to the dealer is tempting.
What do you guys think? Is this a fair price by the dealer? What do you suggest?
Thanks & Regards.
Joe
What do you guys think? Is this a fair price by the dealer? What do you suggest?
Thanks & Regards.
Joe
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Trans Filter / Fluid Change
The Trans Fluid / Filter Kit. This cost about $90, but make sure you use the MBZ Trans Fluid get 3-4 Qts to have enough, the Filter Kit is easy to do.
Just open the plug, drian the fluid, replace the Filter and Gasket, and add 3 Qts then your done.
Your will need a Universal Dipstick cost about $15 at Pep Boys or Kragen the dealer won't sell you one. Unless you find a good service shop that will give you one for a few bucks.
Oil should always be Mobil 1 Syn, I use 10-40 in all year then switch to 20-50 in the Hot Summer and go back to 10-40 in the late Fall. In the meantime my E430 runs great no worries.
Try the Lucas brand additive feels like more HP and smooth.
Wes
Just open the plug, drian the fluid, replace the Filter and Gasket, and add 3 Qts then your done.
Your will need a Universal Dipstick cost about $15 at Pep Boys or Kragen the dealer won't sell you one. Unless you find a good service shop that will give you one for a few bucks.
Oil should always be Mobil 1 Syn, I use 10-40 in all year then switch to 20-50 in the Hot Summer and go back to 10-40 in the late Fall. In the meantime my E430 runs great no worries.
Try the Lucas brand additive feels like more HP and smooth.
Wes
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Universal dipstick????????
The 722.6 transmission uses a mb specific dipstick with critical temp index marks.Use it the trans is too costly to be playing around with a universal dipstick from pep boys.
Mobil 1 syn is 0w40 wt euro formula for the m112 and m113 engines.
722.6 trans up to sept of 99 had torque converter drain so done properly you need far more than 3qts.
Do not add any additive to your oil.You use the wrong wt. oil and the wrong spec oil all year long. 0w40 mb spec(on the bottle)mobil 1 will do just fine all year and why anyone would change their oil 3times a year on the fss system that goes 10-12k miles between oil changes is beyond me.If it works for you ,fine.But don't post it as gospel for other members to follow,you are hurting a fine engine and when it comes time to sell the car be sure to tell the prospective buyer you used non spec oil
ohlord
Mobil 1 syn is 0w40 wt euro formula for the m112 and m113 engines.
722.6 trans up to sept of 99 had torque converter drain so done properly you need far more than 3qts.
Do not add any additive to your oil.You use the wrong wt. oil and the wrong spec oil all year long. 0w40 mb spec(on the bottle)mobil 1 will do just fine all year and why anyone would change their oil 3times a year on the fss system that goes 10-12k miles between oil changes is beyond me.If it works for you ,fine.But don't post it as gospel for other members to follow,you are hurting a fine engine and when it comes time to sell the car be sure to tell the prospective buyer you used non spec oil
ohlord
