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Jul 12, 2008 | 11:08 AM

K Andersen

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HID Fogs for W210 E55

Has anyone replaced their fog bulbs to a 6000 HID? Is it worth it? I have a 2002 E55 and I am debating if I should just keep it stock or do a 6000 HID. I would like a brighter white to go with the Xenons. Are the HID Fogs reliable? Thanks for the input!

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Jul 12, 2008 | 02:09 PM

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Fogs

are not for bright,fogs are for low wave length and beam pattern.Using anything
brighter defeats the purpose,leaves you blind in the fog and blinds other drivers coming at you.
Read all about fogs at www.danielsternlighting.com and if you run non hid bulbs try the selective yellow euro spec bulbs.look unique and really cut fog and rain in bad weather
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Jul 12, 2008 | 07:44 PM

mistertonyn

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Would these look on the w210? they are "real" fog lights

but not sure about the quality thought...

http://www.myhotmercedes.com/mercede...g_Lights/17853

Jul 13, 2008 | 07:20 PM

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... and if you run non hid bulbs try the selective yellow euro spec bulbs.look unique and really cut fog and rain in bad weather
ohlord

So, they won't work well with hid's?

Jul 13, 2008 | 08:35 PM

K Andersen

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ohlord,

Thank you for your feedback. However, I know the purpose of fog lights. I rarely drive the E55 in rain, snow, fog, sleet or any inclement weather. That is why I am inquiring about brighter lights and HID. I would benefit a lot more with a brighter driving light than a fog light.

Kent

Jul 13, 2008 | 09:06 PM

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Get

driving lights.The reflector pattern in the fog is for a purpose and since you want to defeat that purpose for show and you if don't mind blinding other drivers keep the stock buckets and install the hids,you may trigger lamp malfunction warnings and cause wire harness problems.Or do it by retro fitting a relay and a set of real driving lights.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/p.../products.html in the oe slots.
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Jul 15, 2008 | 05:12 PM

zx11blade

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I used these HIDs for the fogs and headlamps. 5000K is real bright white and not blue or purple.

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Jul 15, 2008 | 05:30 PM

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Call ED OR Jon AT HMS 714.265.0010

http://www.mymbonline.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=100

They have the Japan made hid's and not that China b.s.with bad ballasts 1/2 the time... A lot of E55's have these including mine (3000k yelllows FTW)and no problem

ps. 6000k is very cool too and is what most people have.

Jul 15, 2008 | 06:39 PM

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Absolutely, but it's hard to fight the fact that 99% of forum questions on lighting are from guys who value form over function and are consequently more interested in how their lights look to others--although they could care less if they blind others--than they are on how they actually work.

Jul 15, 2008 | 08:05 PM

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Copy

you on that one

My polished oem lenses with the 65 watt H7 rally bulbs outshine with the correct pattern any of the hid and hacked up retro fit hid systems.I like to drive and my headlights and fog lights are evidence of Go rather than show,and I know you follow the same thoughts.
I can't change their minds in most cases,but I refuse to give up,for if I do then they will have changed me

ohlord

For the money they spend a flashlight strapped to the hood would throw more light

Jul 15, 2008 | 08:43 PM

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I am 100% with Kent on this one.

Jul 16, 2008 | 08:36 AM

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I also prefer function, and I hear/read that the yellow lights work better for the fog lamps. But, from reading above it seems that they wouldn't work well with my factory hid. Did I get that right?

Jul 16, 2008 | 09:30 AM

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Yes, I know I have defeated the purpose of the fog lights. I did it for show. No bashing need. Thanks.

I did mine fogs with 6000k and headlamps at 4300k. The only problem that you might run into is the fog would "blink" once in a while. I thought I might have a bad ballast. But I believe that since the wattage on the HID is lower at 35w, it might trigger the computer thinking that the bulb is out. My tech told me always start the car prior to turning on the light.

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Jul 16, 2008 | 02:34 PM

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I also prefer function, and I hear/read that the yellow lights work better for the fog lamps. But, from reading above it seems that they wouldn't work well with my factory hid. Did I get that right?

I have 3000K HID fogs and love them. They throw a yellow light with hints of blue & green. As far as function I havent had a problem either mechanically or performance wise granted I hardly ever use them since the ZAM HID upgrade w/ new Ultinon 5000K bulbs is so bright already. The stock fogs were marginal at best - old scratched lenses didnt help either. New lenses + HID = happiness for me. If Virginia State Trooper's dont have a problem when I'm behind them or approaching them then I know I'm good to go anywhere else. I aimed them carefully as not to blind people but cant be responible for people who stare into them no more than you can blame the sun for the same. I have no warnings and they power up and work with no issues. Fashion, Function, or both = Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Jul 16, 2008 | 03:04 PM

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If they work well and look good, I'm all for that! Where did you get yours?

Jul 16, 2008 | 04:10 PM

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If they work well and look good, I'm all for that! Where did you get yours?

I got mine from Stealth Auto - the slim ballast version and mounted them myself in less that a couple of hours. Just make sure you get the right bulb and it will be a basic plug and play - no anti flicker capacitor needed. I also made sure to silicone the seam of the ballast and used JB weld to secure them as the double sided tape that they send with the kit worked for all of two days. I think I paid around $150 for the kit but it took longer to come than I'd like (back order). Just google them and also see if they have any coupon codes online - thats what I did and got free shipping. I can take some pics tonight but with my camera phone you probably wont get the full effect as you would in person.

Jul 16, 2008 | 07:38 PM

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Scale of 1-10, how difficult is the install?

Jul 16, 2008 | 11:06 PM

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Scale of 1-10, how difficult is the install?

Not at all difficult - just so long as you take your time. I'd give it a 3 at most - pretty much plug and play after fitting the new bulb. Theres a DIY on it at the BW forum by YachtMaster. He did a hell of a write up and his DIY gives all the detail you need including the difference in heat generation between the OEM and HID retrofit. Ohlord gives great advice though about some of the systems out there frying components and having sub standard performance but with the kit I got there have been no issues. Also - I used a Dremel for the retrofit of the bulb (must cut a hole in the bulb housing cover) - makes the job really easy. No need to remove the front bumper - just use jack and jack stands to lift the front, remove the lower engine cover, and youll have access to the fog lights. Just use the doors on the lower engine cover to access your OEM lights and check your bulbs if your not sure of what kit to buy (H1 vs H3). The sport / E55 uses H3 while I believe the non sport uses H1. I just checked again and I paid 175 for the kit.

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Jul 18, 2008 | 10:12 AM

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'00 sport e55 fogs

has anyone changed out the lens on the round sport fogs? if so how much and where can i get some?

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...DSC03045-1.jpg

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Jul 18, 2008 | 02:21 PM

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i think u have to change the whole bumper

Jul 18, 2008 | 06:19 PM

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has anyone changed out the lens on the round sport fogs? if so how much and where can i get some?

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...DSC03045-1.jpg

You can either buy new units (around $150 - $190 plus shipping) or use cerium oxide (pink powder - about $5 - $10), and wet sand the lenses as they are glass. No need to buy a new bumper though - the foglight units are attached to the front bumper by three screws.