Does anyone here have Huy’s (Zam2000) contact information (cell#). I wanted him to build me a Xenon Depo set for my W210 but he has not logged on here for a while. If anyone has his cell # kindly pm it across to me.


Cheers

 

he's over in 220 forum, having sold his 320. or, PM him

 

build your own set,your own self
Follow the diy ask Ray if you get in a jam,he knows what oven temp to use,and then when you are happy with the looks but not the light at least you will only have yourself to blame.
Okay?Okay

I would build you a set,but when you see the pictorial I am posting in a few days of the diamond polished oem lenses and the 65 watt rally H7 with the H9 burners and the euro spec selective yellow fogs from www.danielsternlighting.com you might reconsider how improved oem buckets and lenses and high power bulbs perform.All at a fraction of the $800 bucks before labor for a set of depos with projectors installed.

 

Thanks Raymond. I sent him a PM while back but haven't heard back as of yet thus requesting his ceel/mobile number.

Oh Lord - You have a good sense of humor Mate ! I have Raymond's detailed instructions but can attest to the fact that I am not good at baking anything for sure
I am curious to see the results of your new project though.

Cheers

 

You can't say the light output from a DEPO with hella E55 bi-xenons will be bad. It will bust any 210 oem headlights no matter how polished they are.

 

in stock buckets,don't glare,the wave length of the light is by far out distancing the driving range of projector lights,so making a statement like above could end you up with cider in your ear
A. the depos are a poor quality,albiet the best of the poor quality aftermarket ones out there.
B.Blue wave length light is in the visible spectrum,just a very short band.
C. I have driven next to depo retrofitted projector W210's and my 65 watt rallys light more of the road,a longer distance,and don't make people sick looking at the blue wave length (a Physiologically proven fact.)

It will all be a moot point when cree introduces it's hp LED bulbsand we can buildan LED set up.Balanced daylight wave and 50,000 hour bulb life

 

2/3: I know blue light is awful to look at. I usually flash on people with blue LEDs in their front parking lights, as that makes me lose virtually all vision in front of me. A projector doesn't create the same blue light. the blue is only visible when you see exactly into the cutoff. Over the cutoff no glare at all. under the cutoff is almost the same as high beam.. an oem xenon bulb has a yellowish color.

3: a projector cuts straight. a reflection/refraction headlight does not, so I'll guess that's why yours may light up the road longer. I like the complete cutoff as there's no doubt how far I have vision. with a reflection beam the light range may be a bit diffuse... Also part of the reason why yours may light a longer distance may be the adjustment of the low beam.

1: I don't know about you, but I have worked with several DEPO housings and the build quality actually seems very good. The low beam beam pattern is crap though... the dedicated high beams are by far better than the oem high beams. both are rated 20%.


High beams is nothing to discuss...


by the way, what does "cider in your ear" mean?



I can also add that I had OEM xenon headlights. The low beam wasn't a very big difference, usable light range was about the same, the oem lamps had some extra distance with useless light. The high beam is a completely different world, or even a different dimension, even without the bi-xenons. only regular h7 55w.

 

The 4300k bulbs are not blue at all. That's what the savvy HID people have.

 

starring Marlon Brando as Sky Masterson: "One of these days in your travels, a guy is going to show you a brand-new deck of cards on which the seal is not yet broken. Then this guy is going to offer to bet you that he can make the jack of spades jump out of this brand-new deck of cards and squirt cider in your ear. But, son, do not accept this bet, because as sure as you stand there, you're going to wind up with an ear full of cider."

 

Because of the way a xenon burner emits light 4300K IS actually blue in some areas. This is very complex and depends on the optics as much as the light source itself.

a new 4300K xenon burner emits yellow, white, blue, red and green light, not only yellow as 4300K actually is. That means, depending on the viewing angle you may see either one of these colors, or a mix of them.

 

4300K is a warm tint. Yes, there will be some cooler tint at the cut-off, but the overall light seen by oncoming traffic will not be objectionable at all.

I would rather be looking at a properly aimed HID 4300k headlight than a 65 watt halogen any day.

 

aimed 4300K hid,meaning at the ground 15ft in front of the car
Where most of the aces that have those conversions aim,while they bounce along on their 19's

 

Actually while "warmer" than mid-day sunlight, 4,300K would technically be call a "cool white" in the lighting industry. Warm white has a temperature closer to 3,000K.

 

Here's a comparison between a 35 watt 4300k HID and an 8000K. 4300k is what we use in our modded handheld HID spotlights. 6000-8000 is what normally comes in a store bought HID spotlight.

See any blue in the one on the left? No, it's very natural looking, and has a pretty good CRI. IMO it's easy on the eyes and I can see better with it because it doesn't "wash out" the terrain.

 

As I said, this is very complex. Depending on the viewing angle and lamp optics there my be areas that will be ONLY blue. What you see from inside your car IS NOT the same oncoming traffic sees. On a filament bulb this doesn't happen in a reflection headlight because the only difference there is that the light output is a tiny bit brighter/whiter on the middle of the filament than at the ends.

A metal halide arc burner (the so called xenon bulb is in this group) Does not create an even color, each color is emitted separately. of course all the colors will be mixed and what you will see is the final product of this mix. 6000K contains more blue and white, and therefor the light will look whiter/bluer than 4300K, BUT in some oncoming angles, 6000K may still be visibly yellow. In some oncoming angles 4300K will be the deep blue that is very very glaring.

Burn time is also a factor. A worn bulb is more blue/red/pink/purple than a new bulb. Some bulbs also turns green when they are worn because of the color of the halide salts.


So SpaceCity E430, no offence, but I don't think you actually know what you are talking about.....



Also the CRI, or color rendering index of a regular 4300K xenon burner is well under 0,8, I think it's about 0,75-0,78. a regular halogen bulb has a cri of almost 1. 0,98 or something I think. So if any of you have noticed that almost everything around you turns kind of gray and dull when driving with xenon headlights, that is because of the poor CRI.


Actually, the ONLY advantage xenon has over halogen is better lumen/watt ratio. You can argue as much as you want on this, but no matter how much you have heard about xenon being better quality light, you see better because of the closer to daylight color etc, it's NOT TRUE!

 

mine is aimed at -1%, as they are supposed to be

 

I appreciate your candor.