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Xenon bulbs (hyper whites) for the "city lights"? Where can i find them?

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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 11:40 PM
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Question Xenon bulbs (hyper whites) for the "city lights"? Where can i find them?

They are difficult to find! Xenon (hyper whites) bulbs for the"city lights"(small round head lamps). Where can i find them? Thanks.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 11:51 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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actually, the "city light" bulb is not a H7 or H1. its the bulb that is in the same headlight with the H7 high beam. i can't seem to find it anywhere...
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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City light

are you trying to match the City light with your Xenon head light?

let me post a pic of my car and the city light this weekend for you.

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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 10:38 AM
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I thought this topic was covered before, and the "white" lights were either not as white as advertised (looked like the stock yellowish ones), or the wattage was too high (too hot) for the connector.

I'd love to find out what is what.

And the link mentioned above has several different types listed. Which is which?
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 11:46 AM
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RBrenton88,

When you say "the wattage was too high (too hot) for the connector. " What connector are you talking about, the wiring for the city light, the housing for the bulb, the connector for the lighting unit? could you provide more detail...

I have check the wiring for the city light, and it the same wiring for the high beam(which is 55W). the housing for the bulb i did not check but it look like it could handle the higher wattage bulb. The connector for the lighting unit is no problem there.

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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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I am also inerested to find out exactly what to use. Someone who has specifics please post. Thanks...
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Old Apr 18, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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Re: RBrenton88

Originally posted by nguyensteve
RBrenton88,

When you say "the wattage was too high (too hot) for the connector. " What connector are you talking about, the wiring for the city light, the housing for the bulb, the connector for the lighting unit? could you provide more detail...

I have check the wiring for the city light, and it the same wiring for the high beam(which is 55W). the housing for the bulb i did not check but it look like it could handle the higher wattage bulb. The connector for the lighting unit is no problem there.

Thanks,
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Someone in another thread mentioned that they put in a white bulb to replace the H7 (I think), and the bulb shorted out quickly. When they checked the housing, it had partially melted.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 04:38 PM
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I too would like to know how to make the "city lights" (the small inner round headlights next to the larger Xenon headlights) match the whiteness and brightness of the Xenons. This has been bugging me about my car.

Any specifics on replacement bulbs would be appreciated. Thanks,
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:03 AM
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It is a 6 watt bulb called the "H6W".

Do you use anything with a higher wattage - it will short out. That bulb has an inline fuse deep inside the headlamp unit.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Hey E55 KEV, thanks for the info. on the city lights! Now, how about the foglights on a 96-99 W210? Thanks...
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 02:12 PM
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If they are the H6W, than they are 194 Wedge bulbs. Which you can get Super White LEDs.

I personally haven't looked in the housing for the front lamps, but the corner side marker lights are H6W, which is a 194 Wedge bulb.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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Hey E55 KEV, thanks for the info. on the city lights! Now, how about the foglights on a 96-99 W210? Thanks...
1996-1999 fog lights are H1 bulb except the sport package with projector beam uses H3 bulb.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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If they are the H6W, than they are 194 Wedge bulbs. Which you can get Super White LEDs.

I personally haven't looked in the housing for the front lamps, but the corner side marker lights are H6W, which is a 194 Wedge bulb.
I don't believe the H6W is referred to as "wedge" bulb. It looks like this:

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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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E55 KEV: Thanks again for all of your help! Have a good one...
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Say what?

I'm having trouble following along here. What is the name of the white parking light bulb and where can I get it? Are they whiter than the stock bulbs but also safe enough to not burn anything out?

thanks.

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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Ahh I see...okay than they are definately not the wedge. However I have seen those at ricer stores. With different colors. I think they even sell them at pepboys.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by E55 KEV
I don't believe the H6W is referred to as "wedge" bulb. It looks like this:


I ordered these exact bulbs and they provide virtually no difference. Can these be found in a yellow output?

I am looking to have the H6W's emit yellow light and H1 bulbs to have the same yellow. Any idea guys?
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 01:29 AM
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I found out what they are in the states, it's call the 1445

Here is a picture of an Super White LED

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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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Is that what you are using now?

Hopefully they make them somewhere in yellow :-)
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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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The 1445 bulb looks similiar to the H6W, but the bayonet mounting bumps are different. The 1445 bulb has the mount bumps exactly 180 degrees away from each other. The H6W does not. The less than 180 degress, more like 175 degrees away from each other. This is why some owners have broken sockets because someone has tried to force a 1445 style bulb into the H6W socket.

From another post, I tried a couple of things, I got a couple of marine halogen bulbs, similiar to the 1445 bulb. I ground off one of the mounting bumps and fitted into the city light or parking light socket. I tried a 20 watt bulb.

I actually cut the socket off the car first, I put the bulb in, and I powered it up on my workbench. I left it on for about 5 minutes, it was hot, but the socket was okay.

I then soldered the socket back on to the lighting harness wires in the car, I then installed the 20watt marine bulb in the parking light housing. I only did on side first.

Then I turned on the parking lights, even with the 20 watt halogen bulb, it was not much brighter than the H6W. Also, with the 20 watter, the housing began to smell funny. I immmediately shut turned off the power. And I replaced the bulb back with the stock H6W.

The 20watt bulb was definitely whiter when turned on outside of the car, but inside the housing, it did not look much different. I atttibute this to the internal reflector design of the parking light.

The LED bulb may or may not work in the housing effectively. It depends if the housing is design to use light from the front of the bulb or the radiant light from the sides. LED bulbs are getting brighter because the cost of LEDs is coming down. But most automotive lights rely on the radiant light from the light bulbs and the rear reflector to spread the light through out the housing. This is why some newer style LED taillight bulbs have LEDs facing the sides and rear of the bulb itself.

For now, I am living with the yellow parking light bulbs. I want to try a couple of the short, white, cold cathode, tubes next. They have lots of radiant light.


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Rob, please let us know if and when you try the cold cathode tubes and the outcome. I am tired of the yellow parking light. Thanks...
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Different type of led will be needed to experiment on this. As mention, Led has different viewing angles. As well as some that are projected/spotted, or spread radiant.

Since I'm still working on tthe instrument cluster, this one will have to wait.

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Part number 30.9210.017

Polarg Hyperwhite Bulbs; 12-volt, 8-watts.
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Old May 5, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Part number 30.9210.017

Polarg Hyperwhite Bulbs; 12-volt, 8-watts.
I hope that 8 watt bulb does not blow the in-fuse for the 6 watt H6W OEM bulb.
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