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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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best and lowest springs for w210

ok so i've decided not to cut springs and just do it right. i was wondering what the best springs were for w210s.

i'm considering b&g because they go pretty low. they have about a 1.6" drop front and rear.

eibach offers springs that give a 1.4" drop front and 1.6" drop rear.

h&r springs only lower the car 1.3" all around.

any suggestions? pics would be great too. thanks!
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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vogtland i think and you cut a coil all the way around and its beautiful.
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 12:42 AM
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vogtland i think and you cut a coil all the way around and its beautiful.
not really a big fan of cutting springs lol. but would you happen to have any pics?
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 01:31 AM
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heres a pic of another member's car running that setup
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 01:34 AM
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love it. are these the vogtland springs with or without cutting?
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love it. are these the vogtland springs with or without cutting?
I think he said cut 1 coil all around.
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 04:27 AM
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oh ok. i'd rather not cut springs though...
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Before you put the springs on take them to a machine shop. Have them use a oil cooled saw to cut the springs. This will cold cut the springs and not effect the spring rate.

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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 04:35 PM
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Make sure to get the thinnest spring pads/shims #1 to get the lowest setting. Search if you don't know what that is.
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The Brabus spring sets for the W210 were made by H&R and overall drop is 1.75 inches after vehicle has settled in, which is usually a month or more of driving time. The H&R set ups can be ordered from TireRack.com. It will come down more as the springs seat and get used to taking the weight of the vehicle. If you go much lower then tire rub comes into play. Both the Brabus and H&R setups are progressive rate so the ride is stiffer the more it compresses and the harder the ride becomes. Do not cut the spring. That is a cheap way to get lowered and does nothing to improve control or handling. Remember you you will need to have adjustable camber front and rear when doing the swap. Build that into the pricing. Do a search on this site for those options. Front shocks should also be changed to a shorter piston. Bilstein has an excellent application for that.

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thanks for the advice everyone!

Originally Posted by blueC230K
Make sure to get the thinnest spring pads/shims #1 to get the lowest setting. Search if you don't know what that is.
how much will it be for all 4 #1 spring pads? i know a little bit about them... such as they differ by 5mm each size and that the stock ones are #3. is there anything else i should know about them?

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The Brabus spring sets for the W210 were made by H&R and overall drop is 1.75 inches after vehicle has settled in, which is usually a month or more of driving time. The H&R set ups can had ordered from Tirerack.com. It will come down more as the springs seat and get used to taking the weight of the vehicle. If you go much lower then tire rub comes into play. Both the Brabus and H&R setups are progressive rate so the ride is stiffer but the more it compresses the harder the ride becomes. Do not cut the spring. That is a cheap way to get lowered and does nothing to improve control or handling. Remember you you will need the have adjustable camber front and rear when doing the swap. Build that into the pricing. Do a search on this site for those options. Fronts shocks should also be changed to a shorter piston. Bilstein has an excellent application for that.
thanks for the wise words and the picture
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Old Mar 8, 2012 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by siopaolover
thanks for the advice everyone!



how much will it be for all 4 #1 spring pads? i know a little bit about them... such as they differ by 5mm each size and that the stock ones are #3. is there anything else i should know about them?



thanks for the wise words and the picture
Just as an example for my c63 the pads were 15 bucks at the dealer. They are relatively cheap and easy to install hopefully some one chimes in with a part #.
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the stock ones are not always #3. Some cars came with different setups from the factory. My 4-matic has #1's all around. I have a setup of #3's is anyone needs some.
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Originally Posted by siopaolover
thanks for the advice everyone!



how much will it be for all 4 #1 spring pads? i know a little bit about them... such as they differ by 5mm each size and that the stock ones are #3. is there anything else i should know about them?



thanks for the wise words and the picture
The spring pads are very inexpensive and can be ordered from the dealer. Many vehicles have different pads at different corners to even out the ride height. Stock is not necessarily #3 pads. Remember the difference between pad #s is very little in terms of height. They are used as an adjustment factor to balance the height front to rear and left side to right. Overall drop between #1 and #4 is maybe 3/8 inch.
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Originally Posted by ejsheltra
The spring pads are very inexpensive and can be ordered from the dealer. Many vehicles have different pads at different corners to even out the ride height. Stock is not necessarily #3 pads. Remember the difference between pad #s is very little in terms of height. They are used as an adjustment factor to balance the height front to rear and left side to right. Overall drop between #1 and #4 is maybe 3/8 inch.
oh ok. thanks for the info!
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if u swap your springs ill buy your old ones from u,...
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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 11:17 AM
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if u swap your springs ill buy your old ones from u,...
i'll let you know
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 02:34 AM
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lol hurry up and get some springs already, it's been ages :P!

Just cut them.
Doesn't stuff them up too much.

I have adjustable crappy Taiwanese ones and in hindsight I definitely would of explored the cutting springs route first before buying these.
H&R, Eibach don't provide enough of a drop for me.
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Old Apr 5, 2012 | 06:21 PM
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lol hurry up and get some springs already, it's been ages :P!

Just cut them.
Doesn't stuff them up too much.

I have adjustable crappy Taiwanese ones and in hindsight I definitely would of explored the cutting springs route first before buying these.
H&R, Eibach don't provide enough of a drop for me.
haha i know! i'm just a broke college student that has to take care of rent and food first :P lol

and i love your car. do you have any more pics?
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haha i know! i'm just a broke college student that has to take care of rent and food first :P lol

and i love your car. do you have any more pics?
I'll get some new pics soon.. I raised the rear suspension recently for a drive interstate (to avoid scraping etc) but haven't put it down yet so it looks like a bit of a 4WD + got some new wheels on the other day so I'll need to take some new pics once lowered again!!
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oo ok can't wait!
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heres a pic of another member's car running that setup
Wich RIMS are THOSE¿??
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Old Apr 14, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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Wich RIMS are THOSE¿??
Carlsson 1/6 with the brushed finish. Here's a pic of mine with the painted finish.





For siopaolover I'm running the H&R cupkit. In this pic it still had the factory original #5 springpads in front and #1's in back so the front was sitting a bit too high.
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