looking for a good used set of 18" amg monoblock for my e wagon
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Re: looking for a good used set of 18" amg monoblock for my e wagon
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can anyone help me find a good used pair of amgs.
can anyone help me find a good used pair of amgs.
08-01-2003, 02:52 PM
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i just bought a new set of amg replicas at www.bekkers.com.paid $700 for the set 18x8 35 offset.....i put 245/40/18 all around and they look great.you may have to roll the front fenders they rub slightly,but my shocks are a little loose in the front and need to be replaced ....check the discount specials for some gret deals.
i put sumitomo htr+ all season performance from tirerack great tire and only about $100 a tire.all in all for less than $1200 it makes the car look %100 better.
i will try to post a picture soon
i put sumitomo htr+ all season performance from tirerack great tire and only about $100 a tire.all in all for less than $1200 it makes the car look %100 better.
i will try to post a picture soon
08-02-2003, 03:10 PM
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Find a new technician Chris. I'm not surprised your's rub, especially with the fronts at ET35 (standard setup should be ET31 for the front). 245/40 tires are also too wide for the 8" wheels - are the tires sticking out beyond the lip quite a bit? With your setup, your total wheel+tire diameter is 0.3" larger than the standard affecting the accuracy of your speedo.
When you decide to change your tires, try 235's (225's for a lighter steering but with very minor errors on the speedo) - I'm sure you'll find they won't rub as much, if at all.
My $0.02 worth.
When you decide to change your tires, try 235's (225's for a lighter steering but with very minor errors on the speedo) - I'm sure you'll find they won't rub as much, if at all.
My $0.02 worth.
08-02-2003, 05:50 PM
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Just for future reference:
ET31 offset is more aggressive than ET35 (the lower the number, the more it will stick out past you fender).
245/40-18 is the standard tire spec for the E55 fronts, AMG Monoblocks 18 x 8 et35.
Tire manufacturers also make a difference in overall tire shoulder width, even within the same brand...
as for example, if you compare:
Pirelli P7000 Supersport and Pirelli PZero Nero
in the same 235/40-17 size, by stacking 4 of them unmounted (raw tire) on top of each other, you will find that the P7000's stack is 2 inches taller than that of the Nero... that means that the P7000's are 0.5 inches wider in the same tire size.
ET31 offset is more aggressive than ET35 (the lower the number, the more it will stick out past you fender).
245/40-18 is the standard tire spec for the E55 fronts, AMG Monoblocks 18 x 8 et35.
Tire manufacturers also make a difference in overall tire shoulder width, even within the same brand...
as for example, if you compare:
Pirelli P7000 Supersport and Pirelli PZero Nero
in the same 235/40-17 size, by stacking 4 of them unmounted (raw tire) on top of each other, you will find that the P7000's stack is 2 inches taller than that of the Nero... that means that the P7000's are 0.5 inches wider in the same tire size.
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08-03-2003, 02:29 AM
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Originally posted by randall-sd
Just for future reference:
ET31 offset is more aggressive than ET35 (the lower the number, the more it will stick out past you fender).
245/40-18 is the standard tire spec for the E55 fronts, AMG Monoblocks 18 x 8 et35.
Tire manufacturers also make a difference in overall tire shoulder width, even within the same brand...
as for example, if you compare:
Pirelli P7000 Supersport and Pirelli PZero Nero
in the same 235/40-17 size, by stacking 4 of them unmounted (raw tire) on top of each other, you will find that the P7000's stack is 2 inches taller than that of the Nero... that means that the P7000's are 0.5 inches wider in the same tire size.
Just for future reference:
ET31 offset is more aggressive than ET35 (the lower the number, the more it will stick out past you fender).
245/40-18 is the standard tire spec for the E55 fronts, AMG Monoblocks 18 x 8 et35.
Tire manufacturers also make a difference in overall tire shoulder width, even within the same brand...
as for example, if you compare:
Pirelli P7000 Supersport and Pirelli PZero Nero
in the same 235/40-17 size, by stacking 4 of them unmounted (raw tire) on top of each other, you will find that the P7000's stack is 2 inches taller than that of the Nero... that means that the P7000's are 0.5 inches wider in the same tire size.
).However, I'm not sure where you're getting your specs on AMG from
. 245/40 and ET35 is definitely not the standard AMG setup for the W210 E55, according to my official AMG spec book. Nonetheless, I confirm the W211 E55 wears 245/40 tires (Conti Sport Contacts in HK) on 8" wheels - not sure about the offset, but that's a completely different car.
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I just physically checked 3 of the 2002 W210 E55's with the factory AMG Monoblocks... tires are Michelin Pilot Sports, 245/40ZR18.
You can also verify here -> http://autos.msn.com/vip/specificati...d=9730&src=vip
The US Spec W210 E55s use that size.
You can also verify here -> http://autos.msn.com/vip/specificati...d=9730&src=vip
The US Spec W210 E55s use that size.
08-04-2003, 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by randall-sd
245/40-18 is the standard tire spec for the E55 fronts, AMG Monoblocks 18 x 8 et35.
245/40-18 is the standard tire spec for the E55 fronts, AMG Monoblocks 18 x 8 et35.
If you want to use 245/40/18 you "may" need to fender rolling and if the tire has a square shoulder it will rub inside. I have E55 - I put 18X8.0 et35 with a Nitto 555 tire and it touched completely under no load.
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the 18x8 35 offset was recommended by bekkers but they also said to put on 235/40/18 i went up to 245 because the e55 have them so i figured they would fit.
it would be no problem with the fender roll and they do not stick out past the outer wheel well,but to not go through the trouble of rolling the fender the 235 would have been better in the front but then you lose the option of rotating your tires.
it would be no problem with the fender roll and they do not stick out past the outer wheel well,but to not go through the trouble of rolling the fender the 235 would have been better in the front but then you lose the option of rotating your tires.
08-04-2003, 09:51 PM
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I would also add, the obvious perhaps, is if the car is anything but standard height, rolling the fender is definitely in order with the 245. I have 225's, P-Zero Rosso (N.B. with the narrower shoulder) on my lowered E, with #1 pads (down by about 1.25") and they rub during an abrupt, full lock swing.
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08-05-2003, 09:38 AM
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I was driving the car and the rub was imprinting a groove on the inside tire sidewall near the top. I am still surprised that only a 4mm inward change in offset on a E55 would cause rubbing. I had to opt back to the Dunlop 9000 up front which have a rounded shoulder versus the Nitto 555 with the square. With the Dunlop there is absolutely no more room inside and will touch when the suspension is compressed while turning and with slight incline on driving surface.
08-05-2003, 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by E55 KEV
I was driving the car and the rub was imprinting a groove on the inside tire sidewall near the top. I am still surprised that only a 4mm inward change in offset on a E55 would cause rubbing. I had to opt back to the Dunlop 9000 up front which have a rounded shoulder versus the Nitto 555 with the square. With the Dunlop there is absolutely no more room inside and will touch when the suspension is compressed while turning and with slight incline on driving surface.
I was driving the car and the rub was imprinting a groove on the inside tire sidewall near the top. I am still surprised that only a 4mm inward change in offset on a E55 would cause rubbing. I had to opt back to the Dunlop 9000 up front which have a rounded shoulder versus the Nitto 555 with the square. With the Dunlop there is absolutely no more room inside and will touch when the suspension is compressed while turning and with slight incline on driving surface.
Just out of interest Kev, given your earlier comment re. "non-E55" do you know if E55 fenders actually have more clearance than the stock W210's? I certainly don't get much clearance, even my the 225's on ET31.
08-05-2003, 10:09 AM
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Man that sux! I assume its your Anterras (???) that has the ET35's. Ignoring the appearance of the wheel itself, IMO the original wheel with the 31 offset sits more nicely and more aggressively on your car.
Just out of interest Kev, given your earlier comment re. "non-E55" do you know if E55 fenders actually have more clearance than the stock W210's? I certainly don't get much clearance, even my the 225's on ET31.
Man that sux! I assume its your Anterras (???) that has the ET35's. Ignoring the appearance of the wheel itself, IMO the original wheel with the 31 offset sits more nicely and more aggressively on your car.
Just out of interest Kev, given your earlier comment re. "non-E55" do you know if E55 fenders actually have more clearance than the stock W210's? I certainly don't get much clearance, even my the 225's on ET31.
Yes, the E55 fenders are rolled at the AMG factory and I believe the plastic inner wheel liner is different, not sure.
08-05-2003, 10:24 AM
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Yeah, 4mm is really little but thinking logically, if you had the ET31's your fender would be rubbing the top of your tire!
What's mind boggling is the clearance on your fronts (pics on your site, at least) look quite generous (even more so than mine!)........springs or shocks getting a bit soft perhaps?
Ever tried 225's? Yes, slight speedo error and may not look as mean but not that noticeable (u should have a feel for what it looks like on the pic of my ride on Page 14 of the W210 pic thread). Steering will be more responsive but at the expense of a minor loss in grip..... This was actually recommended to me by a retired local track/street racer. He also recommended 255's for the rears for a quicker takeoff but I thought the beefier 265s looked much better
What's mind boggling is the clearance on your fronts (pics on your site, at least) look quite generous (even more so than mine!)........springs or shocks getting a bit soft perhaps?
Ever tried 225's? Yes, slight speedo error and may not look as mean but not that noticeable (u should have a feel for what it looks like on the pic of my ride on Page 14 of the W210 pic thread). Steering will be more responsive but at the expense of a minor loss in grip..... This was actually recommended to me by a retired local track/street racer. He also recommended 255's for the rears for a quicker takeoff but I thought the beefier 265s looked much better
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08-05-2003, 02:51 PM
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Euro E55's use 235/40/18.
I have found this with E55 Euro wheel fitment guides - All Euro, Japanese, etc. E55's come from AMG with 235/40/18 & 265/35/18 rear tires. Only North American E55's come from AMG with 245/40/18 & 275/35/18 rear. So the fitment guides for many wheels from Europe and Japan can easily recommend 18X8.0 ET35 up front because the guide is assuming the 235 width tire used on every E55 in the world except those in the US & Canada. My Antera Type 183 18X8.0 et35 would fit perfect with smaller 235/40/18 tires.
The rubbing I have is on the inside tire sidewall instead of on the top or tread area. Since the E55 has rolled fenders there is a little more room to push the wheels out. The Brabus V wheel for W210 is 18X8.5 et24. This wheel would push my setup out 13mm (.51") and for regular W210 out 30mm (1.18") without recomending fender mods. Go figure.
The rubbing I have is on the inside tire sidewall instead of on the top or tread area. Since the E55 has rolled fenders there is a little more room to push the wheels out. The Brabus V wheel for W210 is 18X8.5 et24. This wheel would push my setup out 13mm (.51") and for regular W210 out 30mm (1.18") without recomending fender mods. Go figure.
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Re: Euro E55's use 235/40/18.
Originally posted by E55 KEV
I have found this with E55 Euro wheel fitment guides - All Euro, Japanese, etc. E55's come from AMG with 235/40/18 & 265/35/18 rear tires. Only North American E55's come from AMG with 245/40/18 & 275/35/18 rear. So the fitment guides for many wheels from Europe and Japan can easily recommend 18X8.0 ET35 up front because the guide is assuming the 235 width tire used on every E55 in the world except those in the US & Canada. My Antera Type 183 18X8.0 et35 would fit perfect with smaller 235/40/18 tires.
The rubbing I have is on the inside tire sidewall instead of on the top or tread area. Since the E55 has rolled fenders there is a little more room to push the wheels out. The Brabus V wheel for W210 is 18X8.5 et24. This wheel would push my setup out 13mm (.51") and for regular W210 out 30mm (1.18") without recomending fender mods. Go figure.
I have found this with E55 Euro wheel fitment guides - All Euro, Japanese, etc. E55's come from AMG with 235/40/18 & 265/35/18 rear tires. Only North American E55's come from AMG with 245/40/18 & 275/35/18 rear. So the fitment guides for many wheels from Europe and Japan can easily recommend 18X8.0 ET35 up front because the guide is assuming the 235 width tire used on every E55 in the world except those in the US & Canada. My Antera Type 183 18X8.0 et35 would fit perfect with smaller 235/40/18 tires.
The rubbing I have is on the inside tire sidewall instead of on the top or tread area. Since the E55 has rolled fenders there is a little more room to push the wheels out. The Brabus V wheel for W210 is 18X8.5 et24. This wheel would push my setup out 13mm (.51") and for regular W210 out 30mm (1.18") without recomending fender mods. Go figure.
V's, those are the ones that are like a web right? Hope the VI's come in that size too - IMO the Vi's (and the old III's) look the best with the W210
08-06-2003, 11:42 AM
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Now that's real tempting - I've always wanted a more aggressive stance V's, those are the ones that are like a web right? Hope the VI's come in that size too - IMO the Vi's (and the old III's) look the best with the W210
Now that's real tempting - I've always wanted a more aggressive stance
V's, those are the ones that are like a web right? Hope the VI's come in that size too - IMO the Vi's (and the old III's) look the best with the W210
Here is the Brabus W210 Wheel Generator:
www.brabus.de/box/06boxe.htm
08-06-2003, 12:23 PM
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Agreed but IMO too "busy" for the pre-99 AMG look and I've seen too many knock-offs (with the protruding logo!) of these around my town. I was once offered less than US$800 for a set of used ones of exactly those (multi-peice) but wasn't sure if they were real.......
08-06-2003, 12:41 PM
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'04 Silverado Z71 - sold all my Benzes and need another!
I agree that this is still one of my all time favorite looks. Here is a pic. that I found at BenzWorld a long time ago. This set up is sick...
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Yep, too busy for the clean lines of the W210 (looking at the pic, maybe not so nice with the post-99 E55's either!) - I like the offset on those tho'. Never really liked the SLK type grille either but still not too sure about the boot spoiler.........shall I do a poll, Jimmy?
08-06-2003, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Whitey
Yep, too busy for the clean lines of the W210 (looking at the pic, maybe not so nice with the post-99 E55's either!) - I like the offset on those tho'. Never really liked the SLK type grille either but still not too sure about the boot spoiler.........shall I do a poll, Jimmy?
Yep, too busy for the clean lines of the W210 (looking at the pic, maybe not so nice with the post-99 E55's either!) - I like the offset on those tho'. Never really liked the SLK type grille either but still not too sure about the boot spoiler.........shall I do a poll, Jimmy?
