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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 05:26 PM
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Wider rims on W210

I don't seem to be getting any response from tirerack on my question so I'm hoping an actual W210 owner might have an answer.

I'm looking to get some new rims and I'm currently running 8.5x18", ET 35 with no issues all around (no need to roll fenders, no rubbing, etc). I'm looking to upgrade rims to 8.5x18, ET 50 in the front and 9.5x18", ET 50 in the rear. Will this have any rubbing issues or will the wheels stick out beyond the stock fenders of a W210? I believe 25mm spacers would come with the wheels I'm looking at.

By my calcs (not sure if I did them right), front stock rims on a W210 is 16x7.5, ET 41. So from the hub mounting surface to back of rim is 5.36". From hub mounting surface to face of rim is 2.14".

I currently am running 18x8.5, ET 35 all around with no rubbing problems and front rims are close to flush with fenders. So from the hub mounting surface to back of rim is 5.63". From hub mounting surface to face of rim is 2.87".

For 18x8.5, ET 50, from the hub mounting surface to the back of rim is 6.22" which will likely hit brake/suspension arms on the inside of wheel. To replicate my current setup, if I add a 15mm spacer, from the hub mounting surface to back of rims is 5.63". From hub mounting surface to face of rim is 2.87".

Can anyone confirm if this is right?

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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ryson
I don't seem to be getting any response from tirerack on my question so I'm hoping an actual W210 owner might have an answer.

I'm looking to get some new rims and I'm currently running 8.5x18", ET 35 with no issues all around (no need to roll fenders, no rubbing, etc). I'm looking to upgrade rims to 8.5x18, ET 50 in the front and 9.5x18", ET 50 in the rear. Will this have any rubbing issues or will the wheels stick out beyond the stock fenders of a W210? I believe 25mm spacers would come with the wheels I'm looking at.

By my calcs (not sure if I did them right), front stock rims on a W210 is 16x7.5, ET 41. So from the hub mounting surface to back of rim is 5.36". From hub mounting surface to face of rim is 2.14".

I currently am running 18x8.5, ET 35 all around with no rubbing problems and front rims are close to flush with fenders. So from the hub mounting surface to back of rim is 5.63". From hub mounting surface to face of rim is 2.87".

For 18x8.5, ET 50, from the hub mounting surface to the back of rim is 6.22" which will likely hit brake/suspension arms on the inside of wheel. To replicate my current setup, if I add a 15mm spacer, from the hub mounting surface to back of rims is 5.63". From hub mounting surface to face of rim is 2.87".

Can anyone confirm if this is right?

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That sounds right.. but you should get 20mm spacers, and make it more flush with the fenders!

ET35 isn't quite flush, but ET30 with fender rolling will look nice

be careful, spacers are a touchy subject... hubcentric if any at all. If i were you though... I'd keep looking for wheels that have the offset you want.
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Old Dec 11, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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yeah, I'd prefer not to have spacers at all but the rims are Brabus so I'm relying on their expertise and history that I should not have any issues.
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 12:39 AM
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the rims will fit just fine.



the problem is that the go/no-go is so close near the wheel arch after you
install the spacers that no one can say for sure, especially since you've not
identified the tire you're planning to use.

pick tire
has the car been lowered? how much
did you use lowering springs or just thinner pads
etc etc

need much more info than just wheel size.

sometimes modifications are so close to the extreme edges of acceptability
that only until you identify the tire size, sometimes even the tire model/size,
or simply to try it will the questions be answered.

tire sizes which match, but made by different manufacturers will have enough
difference in dimensions that it just isn't worth the risk guess (or misleading
you).

bottom line: it's a gamble
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 01:00 AM
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Tire size

I prefer to stick to 235 40 r18 but could go to 225 40 r18 if needed. Car is all stock suspension.
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 01:44 AM
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you can run 15-20mm spacers and up to 245/40/18 tires without issues.
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 02:04 AM
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what brabus wheels are these? I just bought some monoblocks new from brabus that are ET35. What was the ET50 for? It seems really really high offset for our cars.
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Originally Posted by desired_speeds
you can run 15-20mm spacers and up to 245/40/18 tires without issues.
i have a different take, because he doesnt have an E55 which already comes
with more clearance. my opinion is that 245 with an ET of 25, with 8.5 rim
has a high probability of rubbing on the wheel arch lip. if he is lucky (depending
on the tire model) he may clear the infamous nut on the suspension, but it'll
be a big gamble. your advice is gambling at the expense of someone else's
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 09:30 AM
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Brabus S

I am looking at the Brabus Monoblock S. These only come in an et50. They fit on a 2007 c280 with no issues (with i believe 20 mm spacers).

For the 245 40, i would be using continental dws. I have these tires on my car now with no issues on my 18x8.5 et35 rims.
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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 10:20 AM
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depends on the weather
first off ... let me say sorry I missed your post in the W&T forum...

your W210 E-Class can fit wider wheels with no issue. As a matter of fact the AMG version of the W210, the E55, came with 18's from the factory.

the front end can use either an 18x8 or as you already know an 18x8.5 with an offset in the mid 30's

the rear can run an 18x9 or an 18x9.5 or even 18x10. The offset range will still need to be in the mid 30's for the 9" and 9.5" width and high 30's if you go up to the 10" width.

Most people find that running the stagger at a 1" difference yields the best results (18x8 front and 18x9 rear or 18c8.5 and 18x9.5)

but, remember that all AMG variants have rolled fenders from the factory and a little additional negative camber for added clearance

hope this helps
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Old Dec 21, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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what about 20inch rims?my boys trying to sell me his set for cheap but he said tire sizes ill have to run 245/35/20? im on ksport coilovers
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