Newbie seeks Oil change advice
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Newbie seeks Oil change advice
Hi, I'm new to the forum, and I have enjoyed reading the interesting posts.
I have a 1999 E 320 with about 45K miles on it. I'm considering chnging the oil myself. Does anyone know if it's more difficult than with US cars? How do you reset the FSS indiactor?
Any advice appreciated.......Ron
I have a 1999 E 320 with about 45K miles on it. I'm considering chnging the oil myself. Does anyone know if it's more difficult than with US cars? How do you reset the FSS indiactor?
Any advice appreciated.......Ron
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I tried changing the oil myself on my 97 E420 a couple of weekends ago. I couldn't find the oil filter and assumed it was under the car so I took it to a garage. I watched the mechanic and discovered that the filter is accessed through the top of the engine as I had hoped. I will explain where mine is and hope your car is similar enough.
To the left of the engine block is your air filter which is encased in a plastic container latched on with fasteners. Release the fasteners, remove the air filer, then remove the bottom of the container the air filter sits in. When I tried this for the first time I did not go so far as to remove the air filter box all the way. The filter is just underneath that box on the engine block and can be easily accessed from the top.
To remove the oil, I recommend getting a canister with a pump mechanism (called a TopSider) so you can remove the oil from the top. You may want to check at a marine supply store to get one large enough to hold all the oil. This has worked for me on other cars and is great for the lawn mower too. You'll need 8.5 quarts to fill 'er back up.
I don't know what the FSS indicator is or how to reset it. My car doesn't have anything that tells me it's time for an oil change.
Good luck, let me know how it goes.
To the left of the engine block is your air filter which is encased in a plastic container latched on with fasteners. Release the fasteners, remove the air filer, then remove the bottom of the container the air filter sits in. When I tried this for the first time I did not go so far as to remove the air filter box all the way. The filter is just underneath that box on the engine block and can be easily accessed from the top.
To remove the oil, I recommend getting a canister with a pump mechanism (called a TopSider) so you can remove the oil from the top. You may want to check at a marine supply store to get one large enough to hold all the oil. This has worked for me on other cars and is great for the lawn mower too. You'll need 8.5 quarts to fill 'er back up.
I don't know what the FSS indicator is or how to reset it. My car doesn't have anything that tells me it's time for an oil change.
Good luck, let me know how it goes.
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Ronaldwf,
It should be very easy, same as regular cars, nothing special (almost !!!). Just 2 things: to remove the oil filter, you need a special tool from Mercedes... and also you need to buy the oil filter from Mercedes.
To reset the FSS, there's a button (check your manual). One suggestion: use synthetic oil such as Mobil1, castrol...... Good luck.
Note: You only change the filter and not the cover.
It should be very easy, same as regular cars, nothing special (almost !!!). Just 2 things: to remove the oil filter, you need a special tool from Mercedes... and also you need to buy the oil filter from Mercedes.
To reset the FSS, there's a button (check your manual). One suggestion: use synthetic oil such as Mobil1, castrol...... Good luck.
Note: You only change the filter and not the cover.
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The oil change for a 97 E-Class is not the same for the 99. The new/currant engine came on all 98 models. My neighbor changes his oil in his 98 E320 and the oil filter is on the top/right/front. Guess what that Oil filter can be removed completely by hand.
For a Do-it-yourself (DIY) oil change (98 and up) go here:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy_oil_change2.htm
see where the wrench is using the special oil filter wrench:
This one is for a 95 E420, however, the engine is the same in 97 E420. For a DIY oil change for the 97 E420 engine go here:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy_oil_change.htm
FSS can also be reset at home. I will post once I find it.
For a Do-it-yourself (DIY) oil change (98 and up) go here:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy_oil_change2.htm
see where the wrench is using the special oil filter wrench:
This one is for a 95 E420, however, the engine is the same in 97 E420. For a DIY oil change for the 97 E420 engine go here:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy_oil_change.htm
FSS can also be reset at home. I will post once I find it.
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E55 KEV,
'The oil change for a 97 E-Class is not the same for the 99. The new/currant engine came on all 98 models'
Is it because the 97 E320 a straight 6 and the later model (98 and up) is V6 ???
nice digital camera... :p
'The oil change for a 97 E-Class is not the same for the 99. The new/currant engine came on all 98 models'
Is it because the 97 E320 a straight 6 and the later model (98 and up) is V6 ???
nice digital camera... :p
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phungpho,
The 98 E320 (V6) & E430 are the newer twin spark plug 3-valve per cylinder modular engines. The 96-97 E320 is the straight 6 cylinder carried over from the W124 chassis.
The 98 E320 (V6) & E430 are the newer twin spark plug 3-valve per cylinder modular engines. The 96-97 E320 is the straight 6 cylinder carried over from the W124 chassis.
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Originally posted by E55 KEV
For a Do-it-yourself (DIY) oil change (98 and up) go here:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy_oil_change2.htm
For a Do-it-yourself (DIY) oil change (98 and up) go here:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/diy_oil_change2.htm
Of course, you're not liable to any damage I cause to my vehicle if I use any of the procedures in your response. Thanks.
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Darkmann, I hope those photos and instructions are helful. I would recommend doing exactly as they suggest. That forum is run to ASC certified mechanics and Mercedes enthusiants.
It states to oil the rubber gaskets, put them on and then put the oil filter on after the gaskets.
I wanted a K&N filter for my 98 E430 and they took to long to produce it. I traded it. I am going to change to E55 filters to K&N because they are better and reuseable.
My neigbor has always change his 98 E320 oil. I have not done my one. I ask to borrow his oil removal tool and the removed the top mounted oil filter housing by hand - NO TOOLS. No kidding.
It states to oil the rubber gaskets, put them on and then put the oil filter on after the gaskets.
I wanted a K&N filter for my 98 E430 and they took to long to produce it. I traded it. I am going to change to E55 filters to K&N because they are better and reuseable.
My neigbor has always change his 98 E320 oil. I have not done my one. I ask to borrow his oil removal tool and the removed the top mounted oil filter housing by hand - NO TOOLS. No kidding.
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Man, it sure helps. Like I said earlier, I have been wanting to do the in-between oil change myself and after the post yesterday, I opened the hood to do a visual inspection and couldn't believe how easy it is to change the oil & filter. Today, I went looking for the "topsider" contraption to suck out the oil from top - couldn't find any anywhere. Local auto shops didn't know what I was talking about. Any idea where I can get one? Thanks. the tool I may be able to get from MB.
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I went looking for the "topsider" contraption to suck out the oil from top
Darkmann,
If you can't get the 'Topsider' contraption, then you still can do it by removing the oil drain bolt from the bottom of the engine. It's very easy, but may be not very convenient ... To do it:
1. The car should be raised (with the jack,...)
2. Remove the black plastic cover underneath the engine. No big deal.
3. Remove the oil drain bolt... That's it !
I prefer that classic way better than the 'Topsider' way ...
OK, if too much work for you, another option is: Go to a gas station, bring in with you the oil, oil filter and the special Mercedes oil filter wrench and they can do it for you. They charge me 10$ for the labor... very cheap and you don't have to wait...
So far, the first time, I did it by myself (at 1500 miles), the second time at the gas station (too lazy, at 4500 miles, after 1 year), and the last time at the dealer (schedule A, at 6500 miles, almost after 2 years !!!).
I didn't reset the FSS in between the oil changes.... Try it.....
Darkmann,
If you can't get the 'Topsider' contraption, then you still can do it by removing the oil drain bolt from the bottom of the engine. It's very easy, but may be not very convenient ... To do it:
1. The car should be raised (with the jack,...)
2. Remove the black plastic cover underneath the engine. No big deal.
3. Remove the oil drain bolt... That's it !
I prefer that classic way better than the 'Topsider' way ...
OK, if too much work for you, another option is: Go to a gas station, bring in with you the oil, oil filter and the special Mercedes oil filter wrench and they can do it for you. They charge me 10$ for the labor... very cheap and you don't have to wait...
So far, the first time, I did it by myself (at 1500 miles), the second time at the gas station (too lazy, at 4500 miles, after 1 year), and the last time at the dealer (schedule A, at 6500 miles, almost after 2 years !!!).
I didn't reset the FSS in between the oil changes.... Try it.....
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The topsider is available mail/internet order. Do a web search.
Another type is sold at www.GriotsGarage.com.
http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=10122
Another type is sold at www.GriotsGarage.com.
http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=10122
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[i]time at the dealer (schedule A, at 6500 miles, almost after 2 years !!!).
I didn't reset the FSS in between the oil changes.... Try it..... [/B]
I didn't reset the FSS in between the oil changes.... Try it..... [/B]
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FSS RESET
This procedure is from www.mercedesshop.com:
"FSS reset procedure
It should be in your owner's manual. On my 1998 E 430 the process is clearly explained on page-93.
Make sure your doors are closed.
1) Insert key into ignition and turn to position 2.
2) Within 4 seconds push button "0" and release.(this is the odometer reset button)
3) Within 10 seconds turn key to position 0.
4) Press and hold button "0" while turning the key back to position 2. Continue to hold button "0".
5) After approx 10 seconds a signal sounds and the display will show 10000 miles or 15000 km. Release the button"
"FSS reset procedure
It should be in your owner's manual. On my 1998 E 430 the process is clearly explained on page-93.
Make sure your doors are closed.
1) Insert key into ignition and turn to position 2.
2) Within 4 seconds push button "0" and release.(this is the odometer reset button)
3) Within 10 seconds turn key to position 0.
4) Press and hold button "0" while turning the key back to position 2. Continue to hold button "0".
5) After approx 10 seconds a signal sounds and the display will show 10000 miles or 15000 km. Release the button"
