CE750

Sip.. Sip..

vraa

LOL, what's with the MBUSA be damned part?

MB Fanatic

Alright Sam. Admit it, you drive like a granny dont you? :p

CE750

Ricky: everyone on W211 knows I'm very critical of those bozos.

MB fanatic: That was just to get the 40.. I do 75 usually, and get about 39.x doing that.. but the 40 looks better!

vraa

Oh no, everyone here is critical, I'm just confused of the connection they have to this thread..?

guitarplayer

I was told by a reliable source that you were going down hill with the car in N for .....well...a long time. And you hired a jockey that weighed 84 lbs to drive your car. Some people...the nerve!

CE750

long story short.. I've been railing against MBUSA for a few weeks now (with good reason), to the point of overshadowing how much I really love this car... and posting that photo was just a metaphor for why I love it.. Engineering at it's best.

Guitar... I want to try the same thing on a return trip from Flag Staff where we have a long run down hill and see if I can break 60!

Brav

based upon your time and distance and mph, it appears you were already at speed, in cruise control right? Probably not average consumption with stop and go?

CE750

oh yeah... that was just a "snap shot" of my steady state mpg at 66mph. The Average that day was more in the 28 mpg range with all the city mixed in.

Still good when you consider the car runs a 15.5 sec 1/4 mile and 0-60 in the upper 6's..

prometheus

Did the RennTech reprogramming of your ECU increase the mileage at all? Debating this and the Kleeman fueling module.

CE750

no effect that I can tell.. good or bad. The RennTech doesn't take effect until you're well into the power band, not where the car cruises.

rjm

An analog clock in the instrument cluster? Ya gotta be kiddin! What's the deal with that?

And why are you so down on MBUSA Sam? I've never had any dealing with them....just wondering why you are so down on them?

CE750

That clock is an MB tradition dating way back to before your Toyota was renamed Lexus.

as for MBUSA..

Well, let me see, where do I start....

1. Fiasco with Vinyl seats (do a search, I grow tired of restating it)
2. 3 different answers on every tech question I've asked from 3 different reps, never fails.. can't depend on their knowledge.
3. Detroit like philosophy with regards to options on their cars (especially E and S), C is acceptable as it's entry level.
4. dumbing down MB AG cars be requesting great tech features be removed for US Market.
5. Bad customer service / follow up
6. Doesn't hold dealers accountable like they should for a lux brand
7. Recently gutted the Teleaid Concierge service to cut costs.

I'm sure I'm missing something..

Like I said, one place where Toyota has MB beat hands down is the service side..

SAguirre

RJM, I can't believe that you have been posting on this forum and you never knew what the dashboard of a W211 looks like!

I mean, you write with much authority, is it only based on you experience with your W210? E's have almost always had analogue clocks in the dashboard. The W123s had an even bigger clock in the models without an RPM gage. The W124s have a small analogue clock inside the RPM gage, just like my old Audi 400 Q. Seeing that both my Audi S6 and my E have nice analogue clocks in the dash, I am very used to it and like them. My 996 is a different story though.

CE750,

I will post a picture of my trip computer on my 4-matic only that my display if after about 100 miles of driving, start stop and all included. I am about 10 MPGs less than the CDI and I am turning an extra set of differentials along with a front axel set, and yea, it is a gasoline engine.

Steve

CE750

Very good for 4-matic, but I'm sure your 5000+ density alt plays into that efficiency a bit as the ECU has to lean the mixture to offset the alt/temp.

I got some advantage also from the 100 degree day, and the 1000' altitude of the freeway I was on.

I understand a member got 42mpg on his CDI some time back. I've not been able to drive long and steady enough to try that. Shortly after I took that photo I edged up to 40.4 before I had to take my exit.

rjm

Not so! My 2001 E-430 had a REAL instrument cluster in it. Engine Temp Guage (not a LED idiot guage), Speedometer, Tachometer, and Fuel Guage (again, not an idiot LED guage). That older cluster had been standard on all quality German cars for decades. It was standard on Mercedes, BMW, and Porche for years! Even my.....well, er, uh, you know....has the traditional instrument cluster in it. So, what's the deal with an ANALOG CLOCK in an instrument cluster??

rjm

Read the post Steve. I'm talking about an analog clock in the INSTRUMENT CLUSTER. My W-210 had a small DIGITAL clock in the bottom of the cluster....no ANALOG clock.

CE750

I have all of those indications PLUS a easy to read clock.

Didn't that 767 of yours have EFIS? since when are steam gauges better than LED?

SAguirre

Your W210 was an exception in the lineage of MBs (with a couple of others). Mb then went back to tradition in this way. I am really starting to question how many German cars you have been in. Really, haven't you seen this in any other MBs? Come on!! Also, the gages on the W211 are NOT LEDs, you should know that!

I guess you are in one of those moods again when you miss having a Mercedes and you just feel like picking at something that really doesn't affect you anyway. It must be nice to be bitter and have tons of time on your hands. Really, I have personally not seen any complaints about that clock on this forum (except yours that it). Now I am starting to really consider the source.

Steve

CE750

That's right, they're LCD's..

And here is the venerable 300SD from 1982.

SAguirre

I did read the post! Most MBs have always had a large or small clock (the kind with little hand on them) IN the instrument cluster.

Steve

CE750

300CE from late 80's


Still looking for 450SEL / SL

rjm

I can only speak from my own personal experience. I have owned a Porche 944, BMW 330i, BMW 530i, and Mercedes E-430. And I have driven every E-Class since the 2002 model came out, thinking that I would like to upgrade....until I drove the new models and read about the various problems that Mercedes was experiencing with quality control on these models. I realize you have an emotional attachment to your Mercedes, and you like your Kool-Aid. I just try to relate my own experiences and leave the emotional tirades of of it.

CE750

Fair enough... but like I said.. MB's been putting analogue clocks into the dash since before Toyota became Lexus.

PS. And I like it.

E55 and 993

Hey, I averaged 20 MPG on my E55 this morning on the way to work. Almost 30 miles of stop an go traffic... with a heavy foot where possible. I am laughing... but that is still pretty good for 470 hp!

I have yet to take this car on a "cruise control" road trip. I would guess 25-28 MPH at 75 MPH.

Sam, when was it 100 degrees? Is that an old pic? Did you do the 1/4 mile in your CDI?