Mackhack

Konigstiger,

could you check for us if there is a recall for defective "Crankshaft Position Sensor"? I can remember that I read something somewhere but I'm not sure if it was for the M113 and/or M112 engines as well.

Your input is much appreciated as usual.

Thank you.

IanMcdonald

Just logged on to this thread. It interested me because I had mine done a few months back. My tech works for Mercedes and he does all my work at his house for less than half the dealer prices.

He took mine in and had it done for free. He told me they will replace the SBC brake for free if your car has less than 100K miles on it. After that, you're on your own.

And as for the "crank shaft sensor", it must be a very common issue. I had the same problem also, and my tech was able to diagnose i over the phone, just from a few words from me.

I hope this helps for guys with more than the 60K & 80K miles I DID notice on the first page of this thread.

Mackhack

I still think that there is a recall on V6 crankshaft position sensors! But I couldn't confirm that one yet!

homeofstone

SBC brake system warranty is 10 years unlimited miles.

IanMcdonald

10 years, unlimited miles? That's great for those just finding out about this recall then. I was only going by what my tech told me, but as I'm finding out on this site, they are sometimes limited if not flat out wrong about some things.

dejasxt

does the new replacement SBC has any kinds of new warranty after the 10 years unlimited miles warranty? (like usually the new parts comes with one year warranty)

i actually had mine fix for the 2nd time 3 months ago and the 10 years warranty expired two days ago but the car is having the SBC problem again. the dealer is telling that if it is the SBC again the part will not be cover since its out of the 10 years warranty and told me since i didn't pay for the new replacement SBC unit it doesn't have the 1 year warranty of the replacement SBC unit. i found it hard to believe.. is anyone here can confirm this?

not saying they are doing it but basically the dealership can just clear the code/errors and tell us that the car is fix and after few weeks the car show the code/errors again and keep repeating till the car is out of warranty and we have to pay for it ourselves. Either way the dealers are getting the money from MB and the customers. they have nothing to lose..also what if the replacement SBC units is really defected it? the manufacture or MB won't cover it?

any help or who i can contact in regards of this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Mackhack

Depending on the error I could reset the SBC counter at if you're in SoCal. This is something dealers cannot do! And I only recommend doing this if unavoidable.

dejasxt

ME2-SFI: P20CC-008 'rough road detection' signal (by comparing wheel speeds) : Speed signal from control module ESP implausible/ Read out fault memory of control unit ESP (P1999)
P2068: fault is stored in component N15/3 (ETC[EGS] Control units. (P0720)
P2036-004: No or incorrect CAN message from control unit N47-5 (ESP control unit) communication fault/ see also CAN status in freeze frame data (P0600)
ETC: P2310: one or more messages from control unit n47-5 (ESP, SPS[PML] and BAS control unit) are not available on the CAN bus ( CAN timeout fault)
ESM: P1876 the signals sent by control unit n47-5 (ESP control unit) for the wheel speeds and the braking torque are not available on the CAN bus.
p2042: the brake signal from control unit N4705(ESP control unit) is not available on the CAN
bus.
SBC: C24DD: Fault in CAN communication with control unit N47-5 (ESP control unit.)

are those codes indicate the SBC needs to be reset? or is it something wrong with the ESP control unit or the sensor like brake light switch or wheel speed sensor?

Mackhack

Are you in SoCal?

gvaughn

I would contact MBUSA directly. If you have your repair history showing the multitude of repairs during warranty (esp. recently just before the warranty expiration) that will likely be influential in convincing MBUSA to do repairs outside your warranty.

konigstiger

LI27.20-P-057380 OCT13 – 209, 211, 219 M273 (550) rear wheel drive “MY07 only” at low RPM in 5th gear accelerating under load, may experience shuddering, vibrations or pulsing.

- Remedy all fault codes
- Check fuel mixture values
- Check transmission adaptation values
- Validate fuel quality (octane, brand)
- Check for potential sources of humming/vibration (LI35.31-P-056961)
- Relieve stress on powertrain (LI22.10-P-056910)
- Check that there is no unmetered air entering engine

SunshineGirl

I am somewhat new here, but I have done some reading around and this seems so true! What a help and wonderful resource you are! I know some of these posts are old, but wow, you have really helped a lot of people here! So refreshing to see!

abbythird

Mac,

Do you do the spark plug job or know any one do that in Socal? it is for E350 2006

Mackhack

Any dealership or indy shop I would assume would do that for you if your question relates to replacing spark plugs.

jonspencer

Hello all


I just had the big SBC failure as the car basically shutdown as I was going 70mph down the highway. Putting the brake to the floor did nothing, good there was not much traffic.


The red warning lit up, said brake failure, go to workshop etc


Then it also said ESP Defective, to top things off.


I finally rolled to a stop and restarted the car, everything was then OK, as I dropped it off at the dealer who sold it.


My question is whether there is a log within the car system that recorded the brake failure message or does dealer have a way out?


I talked to the dealer before and I believe they will honor the SBC warranty, just do not want them to wiggle off the hook

Mackhack

It's logged in the error memory as well as in the shadow memory which is unerasable! You should be fine! If they say there is nothing go to the next!

Good luck!

jonspencer

3 thumbs up to the local MB dealer (Gargash) in Dubai

they are honoring 10 year warranty on SBC unit and replacing it

Thanks!!

Mackhack

So does every dealership around the world.

Moses E320

The recalls are global for the affected models - had my SBC unit replaced at no cost as per the Extended Limited Warranty on the unit at 125, 000Km.

mauromora

Hello my W211 2004 e320 had the sbc unit replaced due to the recall back in 2008. Should I worry about the sbc unit good g bad again? Or the unit that was installed as replacement back then had all issues corrected and should last for the life of the vehicle or at least a decent service life without sudden brake loss? Thanks to all in advance.

65aircooled

It's a mechanical piece that could break in the next 10 miles or may never break, that's the way I see it. I bought my CDI after I read all the stories and fear of the SBC and though I barely have a year left of warranty, I can't kill myself over the what if's on these cars.
Drive and enjoy it

mauromora

Thanks for your opinion . yes I will focus on enjoying this car and keep it well maintained... best regards

65aircooled

BTW Mauro, you probably know this already but the system needs to (or should be) drained every 2 years.

Mackhack

???

65aircooled

Meaning that MB recommends to bleed/replace the brake fluid every 2 years. Apparently not doing so could lead to SBC warranty denial by the dealer or so I've read.