stevenW211

Here in Hong Kong I just got the SBC replaced fro free even my 2 years warrantee is expired, is there any extended warrantee on SBC in US too??

How do you guys like SBC? I really think it's a pain on MB's axx. No wonder MB stops using SBC on their new models .....

Happy driving, pals!!

lig

Very happy to hear they did the right thing for you.

I personally disliked the groaning and the lousy pedal feel with SBC. It was one of the things that bothered me the most about the car.

sosh

Actually, I like it.

cyclerider

Which part do you like, the groaning or the lousy pedal feel? I didn't like either of those things on my 2005.

I'm also glad something like this didn't happen to me : https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/161722-brake-failure.html

stevenW211

May I know why you like this groaning thing?? Tks!!

This SBC almost got me into a car accident , I had lost 80% of braking power when SBC failed me on the road!!! How can I forget this nightmare??!!

sosh

There is no groaning on my 05. I like the precise feel and the quick response. Also like the wet weather quick response as the pads are closer to the rotors when its raining. I have no problem modulating the brakes at all and find them very smooth.

paulv

I can live with the groaning noise, and the pedal got some getting use to, but I really don't like the idea of the possibility of an SBC failure, where we're left with circa 1950 hydraulic braking technology for backup. Like others, I'm concerned about myself as well as my wife driving the car. For this reason only, I glad that MB decided to drop the SBC.

Regards,

paul.....

konigstiger

Yes, the SBC hydraulic unit is warranted for 10 years with no mileage limitation.

ima55r2

Losing the SBC pump sounds like losing the master cylinder....it happens.

vettdvr

I don't like the groaning either. but after all it is the wife's car. Mine just uses old fashion vac. boost to the master cylinder to stop the 170+ American Fiberglas. Jim

cyclerider

This is what you can expect with an SBC failure:
https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/161953-forced-sbc-failure.html

khaug

Hmm. My '05 CDI's SBC neither groans nor has bad pedal feel. I'll admit the pedal feel isn't quite up to the standard of my 911, but it isn't bad either, and modulates nicely.

The reliability issue is a concern, since there's a lot more stuff to go wrong with SBC and apparently the backup system is less than greatly effective. Mine has been recalled and the entire SBC pump replaced, so I feel pretty bulletproof, but you never know, of course.

This must have been an enormously expensive system compared to the traditional vacuum-boosted hydraulic braking system we all know and love. I'd guess that played a huge part in its demise.

stevenW211

No wonder this time my MB dealer is so generous to offer me one SBC for free!!!

As far as you guys know, did this failed SBC kill or injure people before ? Last month I almost had a car accident by my failed SBC!!!

stevenW211

Hi guys , I am not alone , pls check out this ordeal:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161722

Any thoughts after reading this thread?? Tks!!

Tariq

Well i repalced my and the warranty expierd by a year +

check this conversation

WiTh Photos of the new SBC


https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...visit+workshop