Success! CLS wheels on E320 CDI
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2015 GLK 250 BT
Success! CLS wheels on E320 CDI
Just successfully mounted CLS wheels onto my E320 CDI;
18x8.5, ET28, 245/40/18
18x9.5, ET33, 275/40/18
Couldn't be more perfect for me. The sidewall is just beyond the fender but the tread is totally within the wheel well for both fronts and rears. And the ride is nearly no different than the original 16". Hooray!
18x8.5, ET28, 245/40/18
18x9.5, ET33, 275/40/18
Couldn't be more perfect for me. The sidewall is just beyond the fender but the tread is totally within the wheel well for both fronts and rears. And the ride is nearly no different than the original 16". Hooray!
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Why would there be a gas millage decrease? The overall diameter of the wheel is about the same from the old 16? Right, the rims are larger but smaller tire. Compared to smaller rim, larger side wall?
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The theory would be that there's a loss of mpg, due to the wheel/tire weight, ie. greater mass requiring greater energy to initiate rolling. Also inefficiency due to greater contact patch from the wider tires than the original.
FYI, wheel/tire weights;
16" OEM = 48 lbs
18" front = 52.5 lbs
18" rears = 56.5 lbs
FYI, wheel/tire weights;
16" OEM = 48 lbs
18" front = 52.5 lbs
18" rears = 56.5 lbs
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99 E320
concur.... i went from OEM 16" to OEM 18" from E55 (near identical specs as
above) and there was mileage drop.
on separate note...the 245 front would scrape the wheel arch under hard front
compression with original shocks. i've since swapped to Bilstein HDs and the
scraping is less (and I drive more sedately). other options would be to change
from 245 to 235, or roll fender.
oh...the above was for 99 E320
above) and there was mileage drop.
on separate note...the 245 front would scrape the wheel arch under hard front
compression with original shocks. i've since swapped to Bilstein HDs and the
scraping is less (and I drive more sedately). other options would be to change
from 245 to 235, or roll fender.
oh...the above was for 99 E320
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Just successfully mounted CLS wheels onto my E320 CDI;
18x8.5, ET28, 245/40/18
18x9.5, ET33, 275/40/18
Couldn't be more perfect for me. The sidewall is just beyond the fender but the tread is totally within the wheel well for both fronts and rears. And the ride is nearly no different than the original 16". Hooray!
18x8.5, ET28, 245/40/18
18x9.5, ET33, 275/40/18
Couldn't be more perfect for me. The sidewall is just beyond the fender but the tread is totally within the wheel well for both fronts and rears. And the ride is nearly no different than the original 16". Hooray!
no milage decrease at all, even with Renntech... as a matter of fact I got 40mpg on the freeway at 66mph last year during summer.
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Its big and Grey!
- I have stock 245's on the CLS rims up front and I have not scraped nor bumped anything in the fenderwell.
- I did notice 1-2 mpg loss after the CLS rims, but the improvement from the Kleemann module made up for it.
- Congrats on ur wheels Choice, I love how they look on my MB
- Here is a few pics of them on my car in case you missed them the first time I posted them up...
And here is what my old rims looked like during install..
- I did notice 1-2 mpg loss after the CLS rims, but the improvement from the Kleemann module made up for it.
- Congrats on ur wheels Choice, I love how they look on my MB
- Here is a few pics of them on my car in case you missed them the first time I posted them up...
And here is what my old rims looked like during install..
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Diitto concerning KosherBenz post. After installing CLS500 wheels with Michelin Pilot Sports on my E320 CDI the car is more planted to the road and corners like a go-cart. No problems with suspension or brake interference. The OEM 16" wheels are wimpy - throw some good snows on them and use them in the winter. Never kept track of mileage, so no advice here.
Still waiting to chip - interested in Kleeman, but I would like to gather more information about the new Carlsson chip (to be apparently released in May) that is supposed to be more sophisticated, although much more expensive.
J. Alan
Still waiting to chip - interested in Kleeman, but I would like to gather more information about the new Carlsson chip (to be apparently released in May) that is supposed to be more sophisticated, although much more expensive.
J. Alan
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.... nothing to brag about, it is a previous model....
Since bigger wheels doesn't really have any significant advantage, (according to you guys) but visual satisfaction. I was wondering how about bigger rim and same width tires?
Instead of 245/40/18 ......stay at 225/45/18????
Would that have better acceleration?
Instead of 245/40/18 ......stay at 225/45/18????
Would that have better acceleration?
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W211 / E280
https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/166787-technical-personal-concerns-needed-regarding-trade.html
The wheel in question
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/2...230ci3lba7.jpg
Front side view
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/8...sdeviewud4.jpg
Rear Side view
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/5...ideviewfp0.jpg
Full side view
http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ideviewai7.jpg
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Its big and Grey!
Who said there was no advantage? The car handles 10x better than it did before. I dont know about you, but although I like to cruise in my car, I do like to have the ability to hug the corners if i want to (like on back roads or on/off ramps) Less sidewall means less roll on the corners.
Also, why would you want to put a 225 on a 18inch rim? We dont drive Hondas!
(More rubber on the ground = a car that handles better)
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.... nothing to brag about, it is a previous model....
Who said there was no advantage? The car handles 10x better than it did before. I dont know about you, but although I like to cruise in my car, I do like to have the ability to hug the corners if i want to (like on back roads or on/off ramps) Less sidewall means less roll on the corners.
Also, why would you want to put a 225 on a 18inch rim? We dont drive Hondas! (More rubber on the ground = a car that handles better)
Also, why would you want to put a 225 on a 18inch rim? We dont drive Hondas!
(More rubber on the ground = a car that handles better)
And I don't see why one can't put 225 on 18?
If 245 will slow you down, why can't one stay w/ the OEM with for their non-sport Pre-07?
How much significat performance can it get from 12.3 cm to 11 cm of side wall??????
I kind of need more exlaination on why, please..
Dont' just throw me w/ "we don't drive honda, or so ricy"
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2006 E320 CDi, 2008 3/4 Ton Suburban, 2007 "rice rickshaw" Accord 5 speed
I drive a rice too
Who said there was no advantage? The car handles 10x better than it did before. I dont know about you, but although I like to cruise in my car, I do like to have the ability to hug the corners if i want to (like on back roads or on/off ramps) Less sidewall means less roll on the corners.
Also, why would you want to put a 225 on a 18inch rim? We dont drive Hondas! (More rubber on the ground = a car that handles better)
Also, why would you want to put a 225 on a 18inch rim? We dont drive Hondas!
(More rubber on the ground = a car that handles better)I like your Vette but I am too old to drive one. Waiting for the Dodge Challenger next year.
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Its big and Grey!
Do what you want brother, if you want 225's go for it!
Id prefer not to squeel when i take a corner hard, and there is also less chance for my tires to break loose when I accelerate hard. And dont forget, the beefier tires look better.
Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks, Ill stick with my 245/275's!
edit: forgot another one, Rim protection... If you put a 225 on a 8in rim, they will get curbed really bad and I dont think 225's are made for a 8 inch rim(as in the front CLS rims)
Id prefer not to squeel when i take a corner hard, and there is also less chance for my tires to break loose when I accelerate hard. And dont forget, the beefier tires look better.
Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks, Ill stick with my 245/275's!
edit: forgot another one, Rim protection... If you put a 225 on a 8in rim, they will get curbed really bad and I dont think 225's are made for a 8 inch rim(as in the front CLS rims)
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.... nothing to brag about, it is a previous model....
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here are some nice links to save....
http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/mer...l_fitments.pdf
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
....if you're contemplating fitment of rims
http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/mer...l_fitments.pdf
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
....if you're contemplating fitment of rims
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.... nothing to brag about, it is a previous model....
here are some nice links to save....
http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/mer...l_fitments.pdf
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
....if you're contemplating fitment of rims
http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/mer...l_fitments.pdf
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
....if you're contemplating fitment of rims
You know me, I just like to know about things, but no intention to put more money into my car.
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easy switch?
Just successfully mounted CLS wheels onto my E320 CDI;
18x8.5, ET28, 245/40/18
18x9.5, ET33, 275/40/18
Couldn't be more perfect for me. The sidewall is just beyond the fender but the tread is totally within the wheel well for both fronts and rears. And the ride is nearly no different than the original 16". Hooray!
18x8.5, ET28, 245/40/18
18x9.5, ET33, 275/40/18
Couldn't be more perfect for me. The sidewall is just beyond the fender but the tread is totally within the wheel well for both fronts and rears. And the ride is nearly no different than the original 16". Hooray!
so there was no issue installing the cls rims on your E? it was just "plug and play?"
