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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 02:08 AM
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"Wash & Wax" question

Although I am not a frequent user of my car, I would like to keep it in showroom condition, since it's very new.

My question is will "washing & waxing" say using Meguire's wash & wax TWICE a week be too much of a good thing ? Once a week enough ?

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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 04:24 AM
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if ur car is black, u need to wax everyday! lol, black cars are unbelieveable. any other car color every other day should be good. twice a week like u said.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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Wash N Wax

Unless one is a Waxaholic like me (and perhaps many others) who loves black cars; I drive 152 miles a day. In reality, I wax my cars (black ofcourse) once a week or even once every two weeks; this is a solid two or more wax applications. During the week I use detailing spray which brings the shine back every day. I also clean the wheels daily. I still have OEM brake shoes (only had the vehicle for less than two weeks) and am looking to replace with ceramic or similar; in the meantime there is lots of brake dust.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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Bingo !! - My car is black that's why I am so worried about keeping it nice and clean and shiny !!
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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Here is a thread on products that other members use:

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w211/199442-wash-me.html
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Sounds like too much work. Our 03 hasn't been waxed yet. Guess I will sell it for new one when the paint fades. Gray hair will do that to ya.

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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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I only buy black cars, and the BEST wax (paste) in my opinion is S100. You can find it at any Harley store. It is marketed for bikes, but it works awesome on black cars. Its super easy to take off, and does not leave any white residue, like the mcguires cleaner/wax. That stuff is a pain in the a$$ to get off, leaves streaks, and you end up with all that white dust on your car afterwards. With this wax, it takes half the time, and its only about 15 dollars. NO I do not work for S100.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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What? No one has mentioned Zaino yet? If you want a deep, wet look you have to use the good stuff.

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc

http://www.zainostore.com/Merchant2/...e=TESTIMONIALS
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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BUD - have you tried both? Try the s100 and let me know what you think.

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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PetePap
BUD - have you tried both? Try the s100 and let me know what you think.

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Pete, I'll think about it with the new car but I sincerely doubt anything can beat Zaino for results.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:17 PM
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Bud,

I'll try the Zaino next time, if you try the s100!!
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PetePap
Bud,

I'll try the Zaino next time, if you try the s100!!
OK, you first If you think S100 is still better, I'll try it. Do you care if I start with my golf cart?
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Bud,

Well, I just tried Zaino on my nephew's tricycle. What a shine!
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PetePap
Bud,

Well, I just tried Zaino on my nephew's tricycle. What a shine!
You got me!
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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How often do you guys use Zaino or S100 on your cars ??
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Royale
How often do you guys use Zaino or S100 on your cars ??
I apply a couple of coats of Z1/Z2 twice a year. Once you get going with Zaino, applying additional coats is extremely easy, especially if you use their pads.

It cures very fast in the dry humidity of Arizona so I can do a car very quickly.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 01:41 AM
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What? No one has mentioned Zaino yet? If you want a deep, wet look you have to use the good stuff.
Bud,

Have you ever used Adam's Polishes. I have been told that it is supposed to be one of the best in the industry. I don't really have time to do my own homework as I do with other stuff.

http://www.adamspolishes.com/
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 02:18 AM
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Bud,

Have you ever used Adam's Polishes. I have been told that it is supposed to be one of the best in the industry. I don't really have time to do my own homework as I do with other stuff.

http://www.adamspolishes.com/
No, I've never heard of it. Once I was put onto Zaino by a test done by the NSX Club, I've just not had much interest in anything else. The results have been amazing and it's simply the easiest stuff I've ever used to apply after the first preparation.

Everyone has their favorite wax like everyone has their favorite motor oil but I've been using this stuff for quite a while now and if you could see my 16 year old 300E parked next to other cars in a parking lot, you'd know what I'm talking about.

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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 04:11 AM
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I'll try it on my new car.

Thanks
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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.... nothing to brag about, it is a previous model....
Originally Posted by pinebaron
In reality, I wax my cars (black ofcourse) once a week or even once every two weeks; this is a solid two or more wax applications. During the week I use detailing spray which brings the shine back every day. I also clean the wheels daily.
And you also own

Vehicle I drive: E320 07 Bluetec; Ford Expedition; Infinity G35; Mitsubishi Montero Ltd.
wow.... I mean WOW!!!!! Can't imagine spend so much time and efford for cars.

hmmm.... Last time I wash my car because someone wrote "Wash Me" on back of my windshield. (suspect it was my boss) haha.........
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by gotoschoolhere
I'll try it on my new car.

Thanks
When you are ready to order Zaino products, you should read the information on their website about how to use their products. You should also make sure you get their application pads, it makes the job much easier.

Zaino charges a flat shipping fee of $8.95 so I'd suggest that you order everything you think you'd need in one order. If you do it piece-meal, it can get expensive.

I have to admit that I haven't used any of their more recent products. I just stick to the original Z1 and Z2 pair which works fine, especially in the dry climate of Arizona.

I also use their car wash and their Leather-in-a-Bottle product which renews the leather smell in your car while conditioning the leather.

If you live in the west, the stuff is shipped from either Utah or Nebraska. I can't remember which. In the east, I think it comes out of New Jersey.

Finally, the first thing you want to do is your wheels. It will make it easy to keep them clean.

Good luck.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Pete, I'll think about it with the new car but I sincerely doubt anything can beat Zaino for results.
S100 also known as P21S beats Zaino hands down! I have both and Zaino doesn't even compete in the same league as P21S in shine factor. Zaino does las t longer though by about 2months more. P21S or S100 is a carnuaba based wax hence the shine. Zaino is synthetic which explains the longer protection but the shine is good but not as shiny as the P21S. Very easy to use as long as you don
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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S100 also known as P21S beats Zaino hands down! I have both and Zaino doesn't even compete in the same league as P21S in shine factor. Zaino does las t longer though by about 2months more. P21S or S100 is a carnuaba based wax hence the shine. Zaino is synthetic which explains the longer protection but the shine is good but not as shiny as the P21S. Very easy to use as long as you don
't let it dry.
OK, I'll check it out. If it's better than Zaino, it must be amazing.

I've used P21S wheel cleaner which worked great.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Well, I've learned a little bit about S100.
  • It doesn't last as long as Zaino
  • It is easier to apply than P21s Wax but it's not as good
  • It's relatively cheap
  • It doesn't have the plastic look of Zaino
  • Zaino works better on white cars because white cars need the extra shine
I wonder how much cost has to do with the argument for S100. If S100 is good, P21S must be better. However, it costs more and is harder to apply.

Since I have ordered a white car, I'm not sure I'll switch but even if I did, I'd go with the more expensive P21S because I assume it will last longer. My new car will list at close to $60K so I'm not going to scrimp on a wax for it if I'm convinced it's the best thing going.

Anyway, it's always good to step back and reevaluate things.
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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S100 has the same bottling as P21S but maybe the P21S has a higher concentration of carnuaba hence the higher price. P21S is not that difficult to put on. Basically let it haze very lightly not too much and then wipe it off. The difference between Zaino and P21S is that the P21S has a much wetter look like the cars in Concours D'Elegance. P21S is overall cheaper than Zaino since Zaino requires so many steps(products).
I have tried Zaino and P21S on Black, Silver and Pewter Silver cars in the past and every time P21S just looks wetter and shinier. Haven't tried it on white so not sure. It also seems like the Zaino stuff works better on japanese paint than the german paints. It was shinier on my 240sx than on the mercedes. Don't ask me why because not sure why either. I do notice that the Zaino hides swirls a bit better but when I have my car out at night under some lights can't resist the wet look shiny new car look of the P21S so I gave away my zaino products ($100 bucks worth) to my cousin. Now I am looking at what else can beat P21S at a reasonable price without going to the expensive Zymol products.
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