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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Rear brake lamp out..replaceable?

I have an 2003 E320 (W211) with the right brake lamp out. On my console it intermittently shows "stop light, right" failure message and the light is indeed out. Can I replace this without taking it to the dealership? Is it just the bulb or the whole assembly? I have visited several parts stores in my area and they do not sell the brake lights. Please advise and thanks in advance.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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i initially thought the brake light would be bulb replaceable....but from
this chart, it seems to say otherwise, ie a dealer part. wow...what
could have been a few dollars at the auto parts store has become
something $xxx more ?! is this really the case?

2003 MERCEDES-BENZ E-class (With replaceable halogen capsules)

Low beam headlamp
H7
H7SU Silverstar ULTRA for Ultra Night Vision - The Whitest and Brightest Halogen
H7ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
H7XV XtraVision Halogen - The Brighter Light
H7CB Cool Blue Halogen - The Whiter Light
H7LL Long Life Halogen: Lasts two and a half times longer

High beam headlamp
H7
H7SU Silverstar ULTRA for Ultra Night Vision - The Whitest and Brightest Halogen
H7ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
H7XV XtraVision Halogen - The Brighter Light
H7CB Cool Blue Halogen - The Whiter Light
H7LL Long Life Halogen: Lasts two and a half times longer

Parking light
2825
2825LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Front turn signal
1156A
1156AST Silverstar Signal Lighting: Complete the Look: Crisp, Clean, Style

Rear turn signal
Assembly

Tail light
Assembly

Stop light
Assembly

High mount stop light
Assembly

Fog/Driving light
9006
9006SU Silverstar ULTRA for Ultra Night Vision - The Whitest and Brightest Halogen
9006ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
9006XV XtraVision Halogen - The Brighter Light
9006CB Cool Blue Halogen - The Whiter Light
9006LL Long Life Halogen Upgrade: Lasts one and a half times longer

License plate

6418
6418LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Back up light
Assembly

Front sidemarker
2825
2825LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Rear sidemarker
Assembly

Glove box
6418
6418LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

Step/Courtesy light
6418
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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That's what I feared...

Raymond-g,

yes, that's what I suspected as all of the autoparts stores instructed me to visit the dealership....I don't understand why the entire assembly would need to be replaced...according to a diagram I found on the internet http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...=1&catalogid=2

It looks like it's just a bulb based on the diagram. A dealership visit for a bulb?!?!
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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!@$ i would pull the tail assembly out and diagnose to see if I can solder a
base retrofit to a removeable bulb. that pisses me off so bad to see something
like this. it doesn't even appear to be LED based array...which (grudgingly)
might help me understand the basis for this design, ie...it lasts longer. but if
indeed, this is an incandescent bulb hardwired to a circuit board that would
really chaff my panties.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 02:34 PM
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thanks

Thanks for the tip...yeah...this irks me to say the least!!!!
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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It's a led based part.

You can purchase it at MB dealer. There is a facelift version that fits straight on the older model. It's 140 Euro in EU.

Easy to replace by yourself, just remove the liner in the trunk.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by highbp4me
I have an 2003 E320 (W211) with the right brake lamp out. On my console it intermittently shows "stop light, right" failure message and the light is indeed out.
MBUSA part # A211 820 02 77 in case you should decide to comparison shop for lowest price.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Thanks

Thanks to the last two guys that replied. Most appreciative of the part #. Yeah, I had removed the plastic trunk liner and it looks pretty simple to do as long as you have the part which I think is around $150 and some change...but haven't shopped around much.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Where can I get the part online?

Where can I get the aformentioned part # A211 820 02 77?

I've checked a few places online and noone seems to carry it? Is it only at the dealer?
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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sourcing that part# from OEMPARTSDIRECT is coming back at < $40
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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I have two tail lights assemblies (L & R) from my '06 W211 in perfect condition.
(I replaced them w/ LED's).
Let me know if you are interested (PM me for details)
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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< $40? I don't see that?

Raymond g-...where did you find that? I still see close to $200 for the tail light assembly w/ appearance package and $157 for the assembly without the assembly..which I don't know what the "appearance package means?"

So, where did you find $40??? Just wondering...I'm at oempartsdirect.com.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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andys10 thanks for the info

Andys10, yes, I may be interested in buying the right side...actually interested in both probably depending on price. I'll pm you.
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:44 PM
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I had both tail lights fail when a southern gentleman driving a 19 year old lincoln decided to put his front bumper where my rear bumper use to be located.

After the shop installed new parts both lights were found to be inop. The body shop swore they could change the bulbs in a few minutes. Not a chance. Once they opened it up they found a LED circuit board and associated parts. It was a dealer only item and delayed delivery of the car for two weeks.

So,, it is not a bulb. but an LED as others suggest. However if it is intermittant, I would check for lose connections or broken solder joint before buying a new one. Jim
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Thanks Jim

Thanks Jim for the info. It was intermittent before but now the brake light has failed on the right side. Maybe I should have the dealership check it out anyways.
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i dunno...i just plugged in the part # posted above....

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The correct P/N's for standard (not-LED) tail lights for w211 sedan are:
A2118200464 (Right) and A2118200364 (left).
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thx, andy....that explains the price discrepancy
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Old Sep 9, 2007 | 10:26 PM
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dude, i have a set of rear lights for your E class, they are LED. I have them becuase i changed the rear lights to the new 2007 version...they are in owasome condition.. my car is 2003, but it only has 15x miles...

email me if your interested....

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Wow... so weird. I think the 03-06 Tail Lights are so much "finer" looking then my '07's. I guess that's what makes horse racing!
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Old Sep 10, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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. . . I think the 03-06 Tail Lights are so much "finer" looking then my '07's. . .
There are probably several hundred people on this forum who would trade you their old ones straight across for yours. Post it in the Classified section.
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Originally Posted by andys10
The correct P/N's for standard (not-LED) tail lights for w211 sedan are:
A2118200464 (Right) and A2118200364 (left).
That is for the complete tail lamp assembly, the part # I suggested (A211 820 02 77) is the Lamp Support (bulbs only). Contact fellow member KYBENZ https://mbworld.org/forums/members/28130-kybenz.html

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Originally Posted by cyclerider
There are probably several hundred people on this forum who would trade you their old ones (Pre '03-'06 Tail Lights) straight across for yours. Post it in the Classified section.
While I like the old ones styling better, I don't want to create a car with parts from various years. ...But the truth is the older ones are nicer looking. People looking to trade for '07 tail lamps aren't doing it for their good looks as much as having an "updated" (newer) look. Updated isn't always prettier, but they did a good job of freshening the nose, though.
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The led plate is same for facelift and before, you just need to buy the plastic lenses and switch the leds.

In EU the leds are on the AMG's and the Avantgard series.
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