Oil Change
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Where did you search this for? I've had this mentioned in the car manual for every car I've owned or changed engine oil.
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Could you all please tell me the reason for needing an oil extractor to change the oil? Obviously the oil can be changed "the old fashioned way" through the drain plug - but there are many posts about using an extractor instead. What are the advantages?
Also, I am supposed to change my brake fluid soo according to the manual. Have any of you done this? If so, how did you do it? You apparently can't bleed the system without the Star Diagnostics computer..
Thanks!
Also, I am supposed to change my brake fluid soo according to the manual. Have any of you done this? If so, how did you do it? You apparently can't bleed the system without the Star Diagnostics computer..
Thanks!
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1) Don't need to lay on the ground, gettin too old for that ****.
2) Don't have to remove big cover under the car.
3) Don't have to worry about damaging the pan or drain bolt creating a leak.
4) No spills.
5) Easier to get rid of used oil.
6) I don't even get my hands dirty.
Disadvantages:
1) Don't get to examine the underside of the engine and find leaks/damage/etc.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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All great points, thanks! the main thing I really needed to know was that it's not a requirement to use an extractor. I think I might go with the extractor after all, since it does seem to make life much easier...I'm not too old but I sure am lazy!
Lots of advantages:
1) Don't need to lay on the ground, gettin too old for that ****.
2) Don't have to remove big cover under the car.
3) Don't have to worry about damaging the pan or drain bolt creating a leak.
4) No spills.
5) Easier to get rid of used oil.
6) I don't even get my hands dirty.
Disadvantages:
1) Don't get to examine the underside of the engine and find leaks/damage/etc.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
1) Don't need to lay on the ground, gettin too old for that ****.
2) Don't have to remove big cover under the car.
3) Don't have to worry about damaging the pan or drain bolt creating a leak.
4) No spills.
5) Easier to get rid of used oil.
6) I don't even get my hands dirty.
Disadvantages:
1) Don't get to examine the underside of the engine and find leaks/damage/etc.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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I was always under the impression that an extractor does not do a very good job of removing the sludge at the bottom of the oil pan. I have heard that it is best to drain from the bottom, where that crud comes out first.
Thoughts? Simple gravity it would seem...
Thoughts? Simple gravity it would seem...
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You are entitled for your own opinion but with modern engines and modern oils, there is no sludge to drain. And if there was, a good extractor pumps the oil out with an equal oil flow as if oil was drained, the sludge would come out equally.
Some claim they can drain a significant amount of oil after siphoning. I don't think they have done it properly if that happens (or some cars are different form those I've serviced). In any case all cars at the dealer are siphoned (except a few that don't have a dipstick tube at all, there are some in addition to the many that have the tube without the stick) as sack5000 explained. If it is OK for most cars, why not for yours.
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This has been discussed many times and it is obvious that there are owners who don't accept siphoning and owners who don't see a difference between siphoning and draining (except that the other one is faster and cleaner job).
You are entitled for your own opinion but with modern engines and modern oils, there is no sludge to drain. And if there was, a good extractor pumps the oil out with an equal oil flow as if oil was drained, the sludge would come out equally.
Some claim they can drain a significant amount of oil after siphoning. I don't think they have done it properly if that happens (or some cars are different form those I've serviced). In any case all cars at the dealer are siphoned (except a few that don't have a dipstick tube at all, there are some in addition to the many that have the tube without the stick) as sack5000 explained. If it is OK for most cars, why not for yours.
You are entitled for your own opinion but with modern engines and modern oils, there is no sludge to drain. And if there was, a good extractor pumps the oil out with an equal oil flow as if oil was drained, the sludge would come out equally.
Some claim they can drain a significant amount of oil after siphoning. I don't think they have done it properly if that happens (or some cars are different form those I've serviced). In any case all cars at the dealer are siphoned (except a few that don't have a dipstick tube at all, there are some in addition to the many that have the tube without the stick) as sack5000 explained. If it is OK for most cars, why not for yours.
But I do not want to hijack this thread. I just found it interesting to hear people using extractors on pricey cars. I have used them on boats (where there is no other option) and lawn mowers, generators, and other small engines.
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You should have the plastic oil filter housing. It does take a special tool but if you have a strong hand, you may be able to open it (a good grip is sufficient to tighten it). If it is too tight for a hand, an ordinary filter removal tool should be sufficient.
