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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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What is up with my tranny?

My tranny is currently not smooth. It hesitates or jerks when coming into certain mph. It does it around 25 mph, 40mph and 55mph. Taking the car in tmw and hope they fix it. It's bothering the crap out of me.
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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You may need a new radiator, rebuilt tranny ....

Mine had the same problem recently, radiator leaked and contaminated the tranny.

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GearHead
You may need a new radiator, rebuilt tranny ....

Mine had the same problem recently, radiator leaked and contaminated the tranny.

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How much did this run you and where did you take it? I'm starting to experience the same symptoms.
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Mine too

Mine did this too. I took it to the dealer and it needed a new transmission control module. That seemed to fix it, though it still acts a little strange sometimes (holds gears a little to long). That could be caused by the programming which i'm going to have checked on the next service visit.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JDM_SXE-10
How much did this run you and where did you take it? I'm starting to experience the same symptoms.
Fortunately for me, my car was still under warranty.

The exact service bulletin related to this repair is P-B-27.55/50f

This bulletin covers the

Test for contamination within the radiator
Replace radiator if necessary
tranny flush
Replace tranny if necessary.

My car was in the shop for 8 days while this was performed. Oops, almost forgot, took my car to SouthBay Mercedes

Hope this helps
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GearHead
Fortunately for me, my car was still under warranty.

The exact service bulletin related to this repair is P-B-27.55/50f

This bulletin covers the

Test for contamination within the radiator
Replace radiator if necessary
tranny flush
Replace tranny if necessary.

My car was in the shop for 8 days while this was performed. Oops, almost forgot, took my car to SouthBay Mercedes

Hope this helps
I think I have read about this problem somewhere else. What is the mechanism of contamination? How does the radiator coolant get into the tranny?
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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by harkgar
I think I have read about this problem somewhere else. What is the mechanism of contamination? How does the radiator coolant get into the tranny?
Good question.

I had wondered why a faulty/leaky radiator can cause contamination within the tranny.

Within the service bulletin listed, there is a description on looking for a certain amount of contamination within the tranny fluid and that will corelate the condition of the tranny, and the need for replacement.

So, I am still baffled on how tranny fluid can be so easily contaminted.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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fluid density,.heat,pressure,negative pressure..etc..youknowwhatimsayin'
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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The Very Simplest Explanation

There is a line (pipe) that carries Transmission Fluid to and thru the radiator, so that the heat in the trans fluid can be dissipated out the fins of the radiator. This line passes thru the coolant chamber of the radiator but remains separate and closed off so that the fluids can't comingle. When a seam/joint in this tranny pipe develops a hole in a part that is inside the radiator, antifreeze and trans fluid and water mix together and are carried thruout both of these 2 formerly separate systems.

Water and antifreeze are mixed with the Trans Fluid and sent back to the transmission. This spells death to a transmission.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys. I just got my car back from the dealer and they fixed it. What they did was replace the valve body in the transmission, changed the filter, oil and everything was back to normal.

I've heard about the bad radiator but he said my radiator was still good. I'm just hoping that things don't go bad later on with the radiator and such.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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what was the cost for all that? im assuming you were out of warranty (2003)?
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry45RPM
There is a line (pipe) that carries Transmission Fluid to and thru the radiator, so that the heat in the trans fluid can be dissipated out the fins of the radiator. This line passes thru the coolant chamber of the radiator but remains separate and closed off so that the fluids can't comingle. When a seam/joint in this tranny pipe develops a hole in a part that is inside the radiator, antifreeze and trans fluid and water mix together and are carried thruout both of these 2 formerly separate systems.

Water and antifreeze are mixed with the Trans Fluid and sent back to the transmission. This spells death to a transmission.

And since cooling system pressure is greater than the pressure in the transmission recyle line the antifreeze enters the transmission fluid.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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was this happening in the mornings when the car was cold or at all times? im having the same problem only ehrn car is cold.
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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by E320joy
Mine did this too. I took it to the dealer and it needed a new transmission control module. That seemed to fix it, though it still acts a little strange sometimes (holds gears a little to long). That could be caused by the programming which i'm going to have checked on the next service visit.
E320joy,

I just had my car taken care of as well at my local dealership about 2 weeks ago. They replaced the TCM, flushed the tranny, replaced some seals, motor and trans mounts, coil pack, spark plug wire, and spark plug for cylinder #4.

My car was also holding the revs for a while until the trans fully adapted to my driving. Maybe your SA forgot to tell you that they reprogrammed the TCM to fully adapt to your driving habits over the next 750-1000 miles.

Now its back to being silky smooth like the day I picked her up. Extended warranties are a must for these earlier mercs.
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