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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 05:50 PM
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Fog Lights Auto On?

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Is there a way to get the fog lights to turn on automatically with the main headlights at night? I don't want to be turning on the lights manually since there is an auto option there, but I do like using the fog lights.

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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Not that I know of. My 2005 had enough of a time delay that I could use the manual setting without the lights going out momentarily.
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Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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The fog lights will not turn on automatically. You need to go from auto to manual.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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It is mostly forbidden to drive with fog lights in Europe. Mainly allowed at heavy fog or heavy rain. This is why MB designs the fog lamp switch such that one cannot unintentionally leave fogs on if fogs had been used previously.

I find it very good and I believe this is now even mandatory for all cars in EU.

I guess you already noticed that I don't really like co-drivers using fogs at normal driving conditions. MB owners don't need to use fogs "to show off". Fogs light the close area of the front of the car, this makes it more difficult for the driver to see further away compared to not having fogs on. And fogs tend to flind cars driving the opposite direction (probably not as much of an issue in US traffic as it is on European roads, opposite lanes are not that often separated in Europe).
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
It is mostly forbidden to drive with fog lights in Europe. Mainly allowed at heavy fog or heavy rain. This is why MB designs the fog lamp switch such that one cannot unintentionally leave fogs on if fogs had been used previously.

I find it very good and I believe this is now even mandatory for all cars in EU.

I guess you already noticed that I don't really like co-drivers using fogs at normal driving conditions. MB owners don't need to use fogs "to show off". Fogs light the close area of the front of the car, this makes it more difficult for the driver to see further away compared to not having fogs on. And fogs tend to flind cars driving the opposite direction (probably not as much of an issue in US traffic as it is on European roads, opposite lanes are not that often separated in Europe).
I never drive with fogs on non-foggy days; during a couple of foggy days here in NJ, I switched them on but kept switching them off in clear patches; I certainly don't support abuse of fog lights, though I see majority of drivers in NJ use them on the clearest of nights
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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^^^ I agree. I only turned on the fog when it's foggy and turned it off when it's clear. I don't understand the need of the fog lights to be turned on during normal night driving.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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^^^ I agree. I only turned on the fog when it's foggy and turned it off when it's clear. I don't understand the need of the fog lights to be turned on during normal night driving.
I mainly use the fog lights because of the adaptive lighting, it turns them on one at a time while making turns. This constant turn on/turn off annoys me and makes the car looks like it has only 1 fog light that works -- for some reason it's annoying to me so I just have them on all the time. So, does anybody know how to turn that feature off? Manual has nothing on it...
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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I mainly use the fog lights because of the adaptive lighting, it turns them on one at a time while making turns. This constant turn on/turn off annoys me and makes the car looks like it has only 1 fog light that works -- for some reason it's annoying to me so I just have them on all the time. So, does anybody know how to turn that feature off? Manual has nothing on it...
I had to explain this feature to my friend who noticed it while I was following him on my way to a restaurant. Not many people know about the MB corner illuminating feature. Like you, I was worried or concerned initially, but then I felt, scre* i* if they (the public) doesnt know, they need to or will eventually find out one day about my Benz's features. Why should I disable something I paid for in the first place. Perhaps one day all cars will be that way
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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I had to explain this feature to my friend who noticed it while I was following him on my way to a restaurant. Not many people know about the MB corner illuminating feature. Like you, I was worried or concerned initially, but then I felt, scre* i* if they (the public) doesnt know, they need to or will eventually find out one day about my Benz's features. Why should I disable something I paid for in the first place. Perhaps one day all cars will be that way
But don't you think that this constant on/off will wear off the light much faster than just having them on constantly? I'd hate to have to change the bulb every month because of that.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tymah123
I mainly use the fog lights because of the adaptive lighting, it turns them on one at a time while making turns. This constant turn on/turn off annoys me and makes the car looks like it has only 1 fog light that works -- for some reason it's annoying to me so I just have them on all the time. So, does anybody know how to turn that feature off? Manual has nothing on it...
That is an excuse I could consider accepting (like speeding and explaining the police why, and he already knows all the excuses). I don't know about W211, I guess cornering lights cannot be controlled from the IC menu. But UK colleagues tell it can be switched off, and they do it just because the get so many comments about a burnt fog lamp. This must then be an SDS option.
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But don't you think that this constant on/off will wear off the light much faster than just having them on constantly? I'd hate to have to change the bulb every month because of that.
Not at all. I have had my vehicle since 7/29/07 and no problems. These are filament type halogen bulbs and should last a resonablly long time for the particular implementation.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel Benz
That is an excuse I could consider accepting (like speeding and explaining the police why, and he already knows all the excuses). I don't know about W211, I guess cornering lights cannot be controlled from the IC menu. But UK colleagues tell it can be switched off, and they do it just because the get so many comments about a burnt fog lamp. This must then be an SDS option.
So in other words, there's no easy way to deactivate that feature.... hmm... Guess I'll have to annoy and blind folks with the fog lights.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Not at all. I have had my vehicle since 7/29/07 and no problems. These are filament type halogen bulbs and should last a resonablly long time for the particular implementation.
I'd be happier with just deactivating it...
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pinebaron
I never drive with fogs on non-foggy days; during a couple of foggy days here in NJ, I switched them on but kept switching them off in clear patches; I certainly don't support abuse of fog lights, though I see majority of drivers in NJ use them on the clearest of nights
I always have them on at night when I'm driving locally. They give me a wider field of vision - close to the front of the car; and they don't blind oncoming traffic.
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Old Jan 4, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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I'm one of those fog drivers in the clear night. When you get the chance to get behind the wheel of a halogen projector ML you'll understand why. Still kicking myself for not getting the bi-xenons from PerformanceProducts when they were $700. They're now over $1,500.

I've found that the fogs on MBs aren't really blinding. If you want blinding, try getting in front of an LS430 with it's fogs on.
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Old Jan 5, 2008 | 05:19 AM
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I'm one of those fog drivers in the clear night. When you get the chance to get behind the wheel of a halogen projector ML you'll understand why. Still kicking myself for not getting the bi-xenons from PerformanceProducts when they were $700. They're now over $1,500.

I've found that the fogs on MBs aren't really blinding. If you want blinding, try getting in front of an LS430 with it's fogs on.
I think I understand, but still this would only be useful at pretty slow speeds. At highway and even lower speed, the fogs just give a feeling of better lights but they light up the wrong part of the road. At higher speed you have to see further and the fogs don't help there, on the contrary, eyes cannot make use of the high beam lights that well when they get blinded by the higher intensity closer.

I assume ML is more talking about urban driving? On the other hand, in the US roads are lit where ever I've been driving, that already makes most of the work the high beams should do. And the blinding from approaching cars is also less of an issue.
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I think I understand, but still this would only be useful at pretty slow speeds. At highway and even lower speed, the fogs just give a feeling of better lights but they light up the wrong part of the road. At higher speed you have to see further and the fogs don't help there, on the contrary, eyes cannot make use of the high beam lights that well when they get blinded by the higher intensity closer.

I assume ML is more talking about urban driving? On the other hand, in the US roads are lit where ever I've been driving, that already makes most of the work the high beams should do. And the blinding from approaching cars is also less of an issue.
Yeah, quite a bit of urban driving here in Michigan. The fogs on the ML light up the sides of the road pretty well so I can look out for deer. Speed is not an issue since the roads are so bad out in the country you can't go fast.
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Old Jan 6, 2008 | 01:14 AM
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The fogs are nice in suburbia here. Always keeping an eye out for deer and other creatures, as much of our area can be very dark at times. Just annoying to have to manually turn on lights when they're already on to activate fogs. Don't mind having to turn the fogs on each time as much as defeating auto lights.
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You'll notice the fog lights turn on and off w/ a "soft start" this will prolong the life of the bulb. It isn't instant ON/OFF.
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