We have just finished a great ECU set up for the 320 cdi engine. This includes the Blue Tech cars and trucks.

The increases are 70 hp/90 lb ft tq! You will also see a 20% increase in fuel milage!

This is a great set up and with the torque and horsepower increases we get. It really will transform your cdi! You also get all the usual Veloce Performance upgrades of improved throttle response and a broader power band.

You can either send us your ECU, or we can send you a hand held unit so that you can do the programming yourself!

The cost is $1400. Our introductory MBWorld price is $1100, and we will include fedx ground shipping. This introductory offer will run through 10/31/08.

 

So this is different from the KD-Box in that it is retuning the ECU as opposed an inline KD-Box to intercept fuel pressure etc.

Once tuned, can one use the hand held unit to revert back to stock settings?

 

Good question. I would imagine that the changes would be immediately visible to anyone at the dealer, and void the warranty, so I hope it can be set back to stock for service visits.

 

Have you calculated how many years/miles it would take to recover this $1400 cost?

Do you warrant or indemnify against any negative impact on the MBUSA factory warranty?

Thanks for the info!

 

When I had my CDI, I used the KD Box. It comes on & off in about 15 minutes once you've done it, right back to stock. It also runs about $875 full retail from Kleeman & has 4 settings (stock, & 3 power levels).

Great unit!

 

I am interested in a comparison with the KD-Box, see a torque and hp curve and other technical details.

 

Sorry for not answering sooner, but I haven't been back here!

To answer some questions:

If you get the hand held unit, it is switchable. So you can revert back to stock. This is a nice plus, but the way that we program these cars there is no chance that the dealer will void your warranty as it is invisible at the dealer level.

My SL55 has had multiple software programs installed and has been into the dealer multiple times for warranty work, and they have never said anything and my warranty has always been honored.

 

Thanks! and no problem for the delay.

But, have you calculated how many years/miles it would take to recover this $1400 cost?

Do you warrant or indemnify against any negative impact on the MBUSA factory warranty?

 

I have never had that request to amortize the cost, so I have no idea. If you get a 15-20% improvement in fuel milage, it would depend on how much you drive. We are generally a performance company, so most of our clients rationalize the cost by how big a smile we can put on their face! )

Which could be pretty big with HP/TQ increases we can get w/these td cars.

The only way you can void your warranty is if you tell your SA that you have a mod, because it's invisible. Don't laugh...... we had a guy brag about the performance of his 65 to his dealer and they voided him. They otherwise would have known nothing. So just keep it between us and you will be fine.

 

Thanks . . . its nice to have some power options for diesel owners too!

 

Before committing buying this, I would try to find a bit more info. Why not request a dyno measurement before and after too.

Think of it, if it improved mileage by 15 to 20%, why haven't MB engineers copied it and put it on production, assuming it did not introduce any drawbacks? I doubt we have any intellectual property rights registered preventing this.

If I wanted to be naughty, I'd recommend adding a new balancer and a magnet to the fuel line and you would not need to fill up the car more than at each oil service.

 

I would assume for emissions reasons, however as much as I would love to have the extra power, I am reluctant to made such modifications for the reasons you stated, as well as reliability issues with the 5-speed auto that might surface.

 

I am a fan of your work and I like your business practices far more than the other "tuners" around here but comments about invisibility of any tuning is not exactly accurate. It can be seen if they chose to do some research. Now will they bother to do that? Most likely no. But if you go in for a blown turbo or a cracked piston they might snoop around to see if it was messed with at all. Some ECU's in modern cars store dates for file changes in the ECU in places we dont all know. I know Mitsubishi has started to see this happen with the new EVO X. It really does not show WHAT the flash was but it shows it was flashed. SO if you go in with a broken car and it was just flashed a couple days before (or miles) its a warning sign.

They cant just void a warranty for verbal comments on a dealer level. Cases like that need to be fought as it really not legal. A dealership does not have the right to void a warranty but a regional rep does. So have the car inspected and maybe it will pass their sniff test.

But IMHO comments about invisibility and warranty should not be used in advertising ECU tuning. Its just a can of worms once you get the bad case where MB tries to stick it to someone and use them as an example. Just saying no one ever noticed the software on your car doe not mean they ever bothered looking either.

Again I dont want to come across as a hater and I am quite the opposite. I can think of one tuner around here who could use a lesson from you with regards to tact and class. Keep up the good work. The OTHER tuner has absolutely zero clue about how to run a business and create a reputable honest image. Its nice to see people in the business other than people that come across as hormonally crazed 18 year old high school football wana-be's.

 

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That way the KD-Box scores since it does not involve retuning; not sure if it would leave any tell tale signs. As another reader said, I would love to see some before and after dyno results especially for the Bluetec.

 

You should have zero issues with the 5 speed transmission, it's plenty tough.