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Old 06-23-2009, 04:05 PM
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Hi ,
I changed comand Ntg2 to Ntg2,5 in my mercedes GL car, every function is good , but not have sound.
In old Comand have Logic 7 , Logic7 Surround and all works well.
I have Logic 7 in New Comand ,but I can not choose, because back
when the menu Logic 7 again OFF !
This is Video !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN8bSCnrPH4

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Mercedes GL 320 CDI 2008-04
NTG 2,0 to NTG 2,5 in GL,ML

Hi,

I have 04.2008 Mercedes Gl , witch Comand NTG 2. I changed the comand in NTG 2,5 but no have sound in all audio sources no just for the radio .
Works well : Navigation (no sound), Telefon with bluetooth (no sound), rear wiew back up camera, DVD player (no sound).
No works : ipod and CD changer.
Old comand : A1648202679 Coman APS ntg 2.0
New comand :A-164 870 49 94 Comand APS Ntg 2.5
I went to the mercedes servicing, which he said not possible recoding SDS !
In old Comand have Logic 7 , Logic7 Surround and all works well.
I have Logic 7 in New Comand ,but I can not choose, because back
when the menu Logic 7 again OFF !
This is Video !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN8bSCnrPH4
May not be good Comand NTG 2,5 in my car ?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by fawzis
I think you used the w204 amplifier on your w211, is this correct, is it compatible, Thank you
It works, but not correctly. No HK Logic and center channel sounds terrible. Also phone/nav volume is very faint, and max audio volume is not too loud. w204 is NGT4, you are better off buying the factory w211 amp (I ended up doing this).....MBenzNL had a very fair price....
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Originally Posted by neoNr1
Hi,

I have 04.2008 Mercedes Gl , witch Comand NTG 2. I changed the comand in NTG 2,5 but no have sound in all audio sources no just for the radio .
Works well : Navigation (no sound), Telefon with bluetooth (no sound), rear wiew back up camera, DVD player (no sound).
No works : ipod and CD changer.
Old comand : A1648202679 Coman APS ntg 2.0
New comand :A-164 870 49 94 Comand APS Ntg 2.5
I went to the mercedes servicing, which he said not possible recoding SDS !
In old Comand have Logic 7 , Logic7 Surround and all works well.
I have Logic 7 in New Comand ,but I can not choose, because back
when the menu Logic 7 again OFF !
This is Video !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN8bSCnrPH4
May not be good Comand NTG 2,5 in my car ?
Thanks
You cannot use the old amp with the new radio. You have to replace amp with MY09 part (there are actually 2 amps for NGT)
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Comand 2.5

expensive job and toy,but you can remove the old amplifire and install
new cables in to the new unit and the will be work fine .
Plus you have reprograming the unit for normal system ,not 7logic.
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You could do that but why? You will be upgrading to a slightly better nav system, but will have terrible (in comparision) sound quality......
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Question, how much does the NGT 2.5 cost? I keep reading about it and wondering if I can retrofit one to my 06 SL? I am afraid that if I spend the money, I won't get much other than a better navigation map. How about the ipod adaptor and the bluetooth feature?

I don't want to have an aftermarket unit in the car. I just want to be able control the aformentioned items with one head unit.

Thoughts and suggestions...
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In Mercedes 2008 GL Harman/Kardon necessary retrofit
Comand NTG2,5 € 1000 (used)
small amplifier for subwoofer € 230,00 (brand new)
sound amplifier Harman/Kardon ntg 2.5 € 630,00 (brand new
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How do you know if the car has AGW? The HU is the non nav 20 unit.
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Originally Posted by gazosnic
How do you know if the car has AGW? The HU is the non nav 20 unit.
If you got an Audio20 , there is no AGW in your car.

Also if you have an Audio20 it is dead easy to install NTG2.5 unit - You only need a cable adapter..
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If you got an Audio20 , there is no AGW in your car.

Also if you have an Audio20 it is dead easy to install NTG2.5 unit - You only need a cable adapter..
SO just to confirm if I have the basic CD/tape unit w/HK (i assume this is the 20) US model all i need is an adapter? No STAR programming?

ALso can you point me to the correct adapter in this instance?
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Originally Posted by gazosnic
SO just to confirm if I have the basic CD/tape unit w/HK (i assume this is the 20) US model all i need is an adapter? No STAR programming?

ALso can you point me to the correct adapter in this instance?
a) Audio 20 CD converts to NTG2.5 easy (just cable converter)
b) Audio 20 Tape is another story ->will convert easier to NTG1.

Ofcourse you can do other conversion however you will have to take your car apart to install new harnesses needed.

Some STAR programming (developer edition needed -no official dealer has this) will be needed after the conversion

With regards to cables Frank at http://www.kabeldaviko.de/ will be able to help you. He has got all the cables you would ever need.

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So w audio 20 cd and hk will the adapter alone will provide sound an function to all features? I don't need to replace existing amp or anything? Also do I need programming for the sound to work or is it optional to just get cluster to work?

Thanks again.


Originally Posted by gmatj
a) Audio 20 CD converts to NTG2.5 easy (just cable converter)
b) Audio 20 Tape is another story ->will convert easier to NTG1.

Ofcourse you can do other conversion however you will have to take your car apart to install new harnesses needed.

Some STAR programming (developer edition needed -no official dealer has this) will be needed after the conversion

With regards to cables Frank at http://www.kabeldaviko.de/ will be able to help you. He has got all the cables you would ever need.

Regards
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Originally Posted by gazosnic
So w audio 20 cd and hk will the adapter alone will provide sound an function to all features? I don't need to replace existing amp or anything? Also do I need programming for the sound to work or is it optional to just get cluster to work?

Thanks again.
Having Hk complicates things a bit.

However your current HK amp (AGW) will NOT work with NTG2.5. You need to buy a new HK amplifier

Frank of Kabeldaviko will help you choose the correct harness (set of cables)

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Hello, any updates on this retrofit ? Simplified ? 07 to 09 command ?
Originally Posted by MBenzNL
before you start this conversion...do you have HK sound? do you have access to stardiagnose with developer mode? do you care about the stowage compartment underneath the radio to open? Do you have an Ipod kit?

if one has a bonestock european W211 with an audio20, this is such an easy conversion...if one has a pretty full optioned car with HK sound, TV tuner, Ipod kit, phone - this conversion starts to become a lot of swapping of components and rewiring the HK sound amplifier requires changing connectors and pins.

Once the 2009 comand is installed in a pre 2009 W211 it can not be accessed with the regular stardiagnose...the stowage compartment (CD changer) can not be openend anymore with the 2009 comand...the Ipod kit (and interface) is different...the TV tuner is different...TV/DVD while in motion requires an aftermarket adapter...UHI/MHI phone is different and becomes BT operated (not a problem for most people but I always have my phone cradled)...antenna connectors are all different and have to be run to the front instead of to the trunk...and so on.

The 2009 comand does communicate with the IC and steering wheel perfectly.

greetingz,

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