Why is MBZ calling the CLE a Damn Coupe!
05-05-2003, 11:13 AM
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Why is MBZ calling the CLE a Damn Coupe!
The damn concept car has four freaking doors!. Why does MBZ kept calling this car a coupe? Here is the translated German:
"On the IAA 2003 from the 4-tuerigen e-class Coupé a study will stand. In March 2004 the final version in Geneva is then presented. At the end of of 2004 will celebrate the Coupe either under the name CLE or CLS premiere. It consists to 85 % of e-class parts. However it sets off stylistic from the sedan. It is to possess a deeper hood, a flatter roof form and more pronounced wedge forms. The interior is provided still more nobly and with unsealed wood decoration. The Amarturenbrett gets in addition another instrumenting. For the time being e-class is propelled the Coupé (C219) only by V6 and V8 Benzinern. From 218 to 500 HP are enough. Among them also the two 5.5 litres are AMG of engines (one without and one with compressor). Later also the new CDI of models (V6 and V8) is offered."
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"On the IAA 2003 from the 4-tuerigen e-class Coupé a study will stand. In March 2004 the final version in Geneva is then presented. At the end of of 2004 will celebrate the Coupe either under the name CLE or CLS premiere. It consists to 85 % of e-class parts. However it sets off stylistic from the sedan. It is to possess a deeper hood, a flatter roof form and more pronounced wedge forms. The interior is provided still more nobly and with unsealed wood decoration. The Amarturenbrett gets in addition another instrumenting. For the time being e-class is propelled the Coupé (C219) only by V6 and V8 Benzinern. From 218 to 500 HP are enough. Among them also the two 5.5 litres are AMG of engines (one without and one with compressor). Later also the new CDI of models (V6 and V8) is offered."
Current Artist Conception:
05-05-2003, 12:11 PM
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Mmmmm
CLE! Looks great.
Dude, take a chill pill, it was called a coupe because of the design. I don't remember the spy shots having the four doors as being so obvious.
On the other hand, the new Mazda RX-8 is a coupe too, and that has four doors, as well, except those two back doors are far less conspicuous.
I would get this **** in a heartbeat. I wonder when it will make it over to this side of the Atlantic.
Dude, take a chill pill, it was called a coupe because of the design. I don't remember the spy shots having the four doors as being so obvious.
On the other hand, the new Mazda RX-8 is a coupe too, and that has four doors, as well, except those two back doors are far less conspicuous.
I would get this **** in a heartbeat. I wonder when it will make it over to this side of the Atlantic.
05-05-2003, 07:57 PM
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Re: Mmmmm
Originally posted by monakh
On the other hand, the new Mazda RX-8 is a coupe too, and that has four doors, as well, except those two back doors are far less conspicuous.
On the other hand, the new Mazda RX-8 is a coupe too, and that has four doors, as well, except those two back doors are far less conspicuous.
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05-05-2003, 10:42 PM
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It's because of the sloping C-pillar. It's not 4 doors that makes a sedan a sedan. It's the conservative shape of the roofline. For example, if a Corvette were to have 4 doors, it would still be a coupe/sports car. It certainly would not be considered as a sedan. It would just be a sports car with 4 doors.
05-05-2003, 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by Baby Jocko
It's because of the sloping C-pillar. It's not 4 doors that makes a sedan a sedan. It's the conservative shape of the roofline. For example, if a Corvette were to have 4 doors, it would still be a coupe/sports car. It certainly would not be considered as a sedan. It would just be a sports car with 4 doors.
It's because of the sloping C-pillar. It's not 4 doors that makes a sedan a sedan. It's the conservative shape of the roofline. For example, if a Corvette were to have 4 doors, it would still be a coupe/sports car. It certainly would not be considered as a sedan. It would just be a sports car with 4 doors.
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05-06-2003, 09:04 AM
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I saw the pics where the CLE had the rear reverse doors also and lets keep in mind that these are all artistic renditions.
I am interested in 'where' this car will fit in the MB lineup. If its a new addition, it looks like the MB line up will be very crowded. If its a 4 door CL, it would be higher end than the S class. It doesn't fit within the E class with four doors.
All this talk reminds me of what a GREAT car the old (2door) E300 Coupe was!
C pillar aside, it would be a very risky strategy for MB to focus the attention of a new car on a 'is it a coupe or is it a sedan?' It didn't work for the 'is it an SUV, is it a mini van' Pontiac Aztec!
I am interested in 'where' this car will fit in the MB lineup. If its a new addition, it looks like the MB line up will be very crowded. If its a 4 door CL, it would be higher end than the S class. It doesn't fit within the E class with four doors.
All this talk reminds me of what a GREAT car the old (2door) E300 Coupe was!
C pillar aside, it would be a very risky strategy for MB to focus the attention of a new car on a 'is it a coupe or is it a sedan?' It didn't work for the 'is it an SUV, is it a mini van' Pontiac Aztec!
05-06-2003, 09:09 AM
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If a coupe will it spawn into a Cabrio with 4 doors?
The New Mazda RX8 does not have door handles on those rear doors. You can not enter the car thru the rear without opening the front doors. The number of roof pillars is moot. This CLE is a Sedan regardless of Pillars.
Merriam-Webster defines each as:
"Sedan: 2- or 4-door automobile seating 4 or more persons and usually having a permanent top."
"Coupe: a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat."
So the RX8 should actually be defined as a Sedan as is the Mercedes CLK. Go figure!
The CLE looks to much like the Chrysler Concorde:
Merriam-Webster defines each as:
"Sedan: 2- or 4-door automobile seating 4 or more persons and usually having a permanent top."
"Coupe: a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat."
So the RX8 should actually be defined as a Sedan as is the Mercedes CLK. Go figure!
The CLE looks to much like the Chrysler Concorde:
05-06-2003, 09:09 AM
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If a coupe will it spawn into a Cabrio with 4 doors?
The New Mazda RX8 does not have door handles on those rear doors. You can not enter the car thru the rear without opening the front doors. The number of roof pillars is moot. This CLE is a Sedan regardless of Pillars.
Merriam-Webster defines each as:
"Sedan: 2- or 4-door automobile seating 4 or more persons and usually having a permanent top."
"Coupe: a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat."
So the RX8 should actually be defined as a Sedan as is the Mercedes CLK. Go figure!
The CLE looks to much like the Chrysler Concorde:
Merriam-Webster defines each as:
"Sedan: 2- or 4-door automobile seating 4 or more persons and usually having a permanent top."
"Coupe: a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat."
So the RX8 should actually be defined as a Sedan as is the Mercedes CLK. Go figure!
The CLE looks to much like the Chrysler Concorde:
05-06-2003, 09:12 AM
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If a coupe will it spawn into a Cabrio with 4 doors?
The New Mazda RX8 does not have door handles on those rear doors. You can not enter the car thru the rear without opening the front doors. The number of roof pillars is moot. This CLE is a Sedan regardless of Pillars.
Merriam-Webster defines each as:
"Sedan: 2- or 4-door automobile seating 4 or more persons and usually having a permanent top."
"Coupe: a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat."
The CLE looks to much like the Chrysler Concorde:
Merriam-Webster defines each as:
"Sedan: 2- or 4-door automobile seating 4 or more persons and usually having a permanent top."
"Coupe: a 2-door automobile often seating only two persons; also : one with a tight-spaced rear seat."
The CLE looks to much like the Chrysler Concorde:
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05-06-2003, 09:22 AM
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There is also the rumor floating around, principally in the German press I believe, that the CLE will get a retractible hard-top!
07-23-2004, 09:56 AM
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Hi Kev,
That CLS is still bugging you huh?
You know how I feel. I am driving the last E class coupe body that was made.
If it has 4 doors its is NOT A COUPE.
If it has a B pillar it is NOT A HARDTOP.
The CE has neither, the CLS has both.
Nuff said.
I have to get over this before January when they are released since I geuss I will have to smile and sell them.
That CLS is still bugging you huh?
You know how I feel. I am driving the last E class coupe body that was made.
If it has 4 doors its is NOT A COUPE.
If it has a B pillar it is NOT A HARDTOP.
The CE has neither, the CLS has both.
Nuff said.
I have to get over this before January when they are released since I geuss I will have to smile and sell them.
07-23-2004, 10:41 AM
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nice thread revival!! CLS looks nothing like the concorde; IMO its gonna be one of the best looking cars on the raod; takes the new e-class a step further, and the CLS 55 (or 65 or 69 or whatever) is going to be a beast!!
07-23-2004, 10:44 AM
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2011 E350 Cabriolet..White and Almond Mocha
Originally Posted by sf49ers79
Wow that car is real nice.. when the availibility in the USA
For answers to all the questions in this thread...see other forum
New CLS Coupe (C219) under Coupes and Cabriolets
The CLS 500 can already be ordered in Europe for January '05 delivery and the AMG55 is due mid summer.
07-23-2004, 04:47 PM
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According to every major English (and even French Dictionaries - where the term originated), a coupe (or coupé) is a "closed two-door vehicle."
Mercedes and their people can go slope this roofline...
Mercedes and their people can go slope this roofline...
07-23-2004, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by moa4r
nice thread revival!! CLS looks nothing like the concorde; IMO its gonna be one of the best looking cars on the raod; takes the new e-class a step further, and the CLS 55 (or 65 or 69 or whatever) is going to be a beast!!
