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I'm not sure, but it could be worth a look in the wheel thread to see if anyone is running something with offsets like that.
I tell you, finding wheels for this car with the proper off sets is quite the task.
I would like to find the same style monoblocks again for my car, similar to what I am running right now but WITHOUT having to use spacers, as the car rides like crap.
Wondering if the W210 monoblock style wheel would work?
You should start with checking what ET your original wheels have.
I remember E class has them in 30's when 50's are for S class.
It gets tricky changing between the years.
W210 had smaller bolts, with different head radius, so first to check would be if the hole are big enough for 14 mm bolts and they you'd have to order custom bolts.
You want to find hot wheels that everybody want for cheap, so what is your complain?
You should start with checking what ET your original wheels have.
I remember E class has them in 30's when 50's are for S class.
It gets tricky changing between the years.
W210 had smaller bolts, with different head radius, so first to check would be if the hole are big enough for 14 mm bolts and they you'd have to order custom bolts.
You want to find hot wheels that everybody want for cheap, so what is your complain?
This.
I currently have a set of S-Class Style IV's that I'm looking to sell because I didn't realize this. The rear wheels are 18x9 et44 and would rub on the inside when pressed against the wheel hub. I say pressed against the hub because I couldn't mount them, my wheel bolts wouldn't reach the threads on the hub. Same scenario with the front wheels, 18x8 et44.
edit: What'd you pay for them if you don't mind saying? Mine are just sitting in my housemate's storage unit and I think about selling them every once in awhile.
edit: What'd you pay for them if you don't mind saying? Mine are just sitting in my housemate's storage unit and I think about selling them every once in awhile.
Thanks very much Strigoi, greatly appreciate the help.
He asked 1100 for the set, no bends or cracks, but some curb rashes, which I will have fixed prior to installation.
I got them for 800 bucks, he was not budging any further.
I put spare wheel from W211 on W212 and original bolts fit just fine.
They are both M14 with R14, so the only difference might be length.
Easy to check. Stick the bolt into original wheel, measure how much it sticks on inner side and compare the same on new wheel.
Looks like good find. Congratulations.
Btw I rotated wheels on W212 lately and was worry that the TPMS will show backwards, but turn the car has to have receiver at each wheel and after resetting on cluster, They show correct wheel
I put spare wheel from W211 on W212 and original bolts fit just fine.
They are both M14 with R14, so the only difference might be length.
Easy to check. Stick the bolt into original wheel, measure how much it sticks on inner side and compare the same on new wheel.
Looks like good find. Congratulations.
Couldn't resist, and held the new wheels against the car.I think it might just look all right.
This weekend, I will clean the wheels and get them ready to drop them off for refurbishment on Monday.
I will also take the current wheels off and install these, just to ease my worries that things may possibly not fit as they should. Rather safe than sorry.
Hopefully all turns out as planned, so I can remove the S class wheels and spacers in the hopes the vehicle will perform as it should.
After some more research, I am a bit confused about this bolt. Once you enter the info for a 2007 E63, it comes also up as 59mm long, but on the top of the description of the bolt it shows a 51mm length? Assuming the 59mm length is only referring to the 17" inch chrome wheels, which would mean I need the 51mm length?
I have the wheels from my wife's 2011 C300 in the garage, so I took a lug bolt and stuck it in the hole as suggested by Kajtek1 below, and I measured 20mm to be sticking out in the back. (UNFORTUNAYELY I cannot check this on my current wheels, as there are studs with the spacers and not bolts. The lug bolt on the C300 is 14x1.5 x49mm long.
I then took the 49 mm bolt and stuck it in the hole of my newly acquired 18" AMG's, and the distance on the back is as well exactly 20mm, which is sticking out.
I am therefore thinking the bolt should be 51mm long, as 20mm should be plenty of thread going into the hub. The 59mm bolt would most likely be too long and cause possible damages?
Do I have this right? Thoughts?
Last edited by S70Houston; 01-19-2018 at 10:59 PM.
You'd have to recheck it on your actuall setup, but factory bolts always come with extra length for safety. The hub is usually about 10 mm, so 20 mm out of the wheel will stick 10mm past hub. You take 59mm bolt and it will stick 20 mm past the hub.
Front hubs are pretty forgiving, but in the rear long bolts will grind parking brake shoes.
There is a limit how much we can help you over the net, but you have to figure it out very carefully, or if you are confused, don't hesitate to go to pro.
Thanks Kajtek1.
As mentioned, the original factory set up on the C class exposes 20 mm of thread going into the hub.
The E63 bolt on AutohausAZ website states it is 51mm long, 59mm with 17" inch 5 spoke chrome wheels. See attached, highlighted in green.
Based on the 20mm being pretty much identical from the C Class to these AMG wheels, I cannot see why the same diameter wheel on an E Class should have an additional 10 mm of thread?
Based on your statement that the hub is about 10mm, then 20mm of thread sticking out of the back of the wheel should be more than plenty.
Check fitted front and back today and all fits like a glove.
Then I cleaned these puppies up a bit, and on Monday they will be dropped of to get refurbished.
Can't wait to get rid of those darn studs and spacers.
I measured, ....... studs screwed about 13 mm into the thread of the hub. Measured the debth of the hole with calipers and there seems to be plenty of room to get the longer lug bolt installed.
FWIW, when I went on the Autohaus site I linked the bolts they showed as being stock for a 2007 E63. Going with the OEM spec bolts for an E63 should work on you car. Do your due diligence though.
FWIW, when I went on the Autohaus site I linked the bolts they showed as being stock for a 2007 E63. Going with the OEM spec bolts for an E63 should work on you car. Do your due diligence though.
Thanks Strigoi.
I did my due diligence, checked all available bolt length for just about anything W211 and all are 49mm overall length, M14x1.5. One exception, the E63 being 2mm longer, overall length 51. Other parts sites show this as well, so the 59mm length is only as shown when using the 17" inch chrome wheels.
I ordered the bolt you suggested in your original reply, 51mm in length. When I measured, there was more than plenty of room inside the threaded hole, so the bolt will for sure not be too long.
Sorry, but I am an OEM kinda guy, aftermarket is not for me.............
That's OK, I was talking about rims for winter tires which you probably have no need for.
I use this car for work and places I go to (mountains in BC) winter tires are mandatory October 1 thru April 30
Looking forward to seeing them mounted. Though I really really love monoblock wheels... something about that style and mercs just look really good.
-Nigel
Totally agree about the Monoblocks. However this time, performance supersedes good looks.
I do not believe that the E63 wheels will look as good as the Monoblocks do, but not having to deal with the poor ride due to them spacers is far more important to me than looks.
I hope it will still look all right though.
Wheels are at the wheel shop to be cleaned up, and I ordered a set of Michelin Pilot AS 3 Plus yesterday. Hopefully all will be installed by this weekend.
Last edited by S70Houston; 01-23-2018 at 10:17 AM.
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