carterb5281

Is there any way to slap a turbo or supercharger in this car? Or any other mods that would add some more power. I've tried to look up any kits that would fir this model but have come up empty handed.

cetialpha5

There's usually very little you can do to add more power. You could try a tune but usually for non turbo cars, it adds very little extra power. The best bang for the buck when it comes to Mercedes is to basically trade the car in for a car with a more powerful engine. Probably a 2012+ E550, those had turbos and about an extra 100 hp over what you have now and can do a lot more hp with a tune. Of course one of the downsides of a tune is that you can blow the engine that way which is why MB doesn't cover the engine if they find out you had a tune. For a little less you could jump up to the 2007-2009 E550, those had 80 more hp than your E500. There's probably no cheaper way to add an extra 80 hp for the price difference between a 2005 E500 and a 2007 E550. Of course you need to beware of the early 2007 E550 as those also had engine issues.

CS_W211

https://www.vrpspeed.com/product/m11...onversion-kit/

C32VQ35

so what’s included in this kit if not the supercharger?

tjts1

Thoughts and prayers.

carterb5281

the kit maxed out costs $2500 will that include everything that i will need to convert this car and run and drive after or do i need to buy some tune for it.

Heguli

You probably get all the answers if you contact VRP directly, leaves out all the guess work.

In this this Legit Street Cars video they install protoype VRP charger kit:

cetialpha5

Good luck with that, let us know how it turns out. You are after all dropping that kind of money just for the kit plus all the labor involved in what is after all an 18 year old car. Will it even take it? What's going to break off when installing it? How much can an 18 year old engine take? It's one thing when people put these on when they're new, they sometimes cheat and have a warranty which they can use when things break. Usually they try to remove the mods and then claim ignorance. But you have no warranty, what happens when the engine/transmission blows up a few thousand miles later? Did you budget for a new transmission/engine? It's probably going to be more than $2500 so just selling it and getting another car with more power is probably about the same or even less once you factor in all the time it will take.

Heguli

If OP is doing major part of the work by self, and journey to get more power appeals, heck, why not? But getting it done by a shop for just to get more power, no way. Labor can easily outrun the parts.

I'd much rather use some older vehicle to beat more power out of it, and if something breaks, well, that was a weak point and needs to be upgraded.

carterb5281

The car has only 15k miles on it so it should be okay :/

rodneypierce

As long as the engine is in good mechanical shape, age doesnt matter.

VehDyn

The M113 50 is one very tough engine. My family also has a W211 E500 4matic (2004) and touch wood it continues to be phenomenal. The car in general is very durable (note: distinct from reliable), tough as nails. I used to joke that it's like a Klingon, and that if you removed the engine it would still find a way to provide tractive power.
I'm not sure how tightly integrated the PCM in the W211 is with things like the SCCM or the BCM, and what the differences between the OEM harness/pinouts for the E500 vs the E55 is, but it might be possible to "up-spec" from one to the other, at least parts-wise. IIRC, the E55 used the same transmission as the E500, but I'm not sure if there were any PCM signals that were being fed in from 4-ETS or the ABS module that are unique to the 4matic system (vs the RWD AMG).
Unfortunately, the 5.4 shares the same 97mm bore as the 5.0L, so you'd be stroking, not boring, which in turn means there will still be some normal, age-related loss of compression. Still, it will be a benefit, and of course the supercharger will increase pressure, it just won't be like a new engine of the same size. I.e. if the 5.4 made let's say 360hp when new, stroking your 5.0L to 5.4L may not result in quite the same figure.
Of course there are other things you can do, high-flow cylinder heads, and cam profiles - that's a big one. You won't want a cam that's made for racing because it will be nightmarish to live with, but in general the M113 was designed with longevity, efficiency, and progressive/seamless torque delivery, which means there's a lot more performance to be had if you are willing to sacrifice some low-end torque (to preserve smoothness) and live with a peakier engine. That, of course, though, means you will need an aftermarket PCM with knock protection and access to a dyno to properly map for any changes in the fuel/air intake durations, fuel delivery system, air induction, exhaust, etc.

Um, I think Kleeman made superchargers for this engine.

After writing this I'm just thinking about it and you're probably best going for an aftermarket PCM.
One thing to keep in mind: One of the primary charms of the 4matic system is how weight-optimized it is, especially this generation of 4matic. The whole principle is to allow the vehicle to produce the same amount of tractive power without exceeding the traction available at each wheel. This effectively reduces the amount of torque each individual axle has to experience. It is likely that the driveline engineers spec'ed the running gear (carrier bearings, wheel bearings, diff components, drive/halfshafts, etc.) accordingly. Now, I'm sure the driveline components in the W211 E500 4matic can withstand significantly increased torque. But it's the fatiguing that will come faster. If you plan to daily drive an E500 4matic with, let's say, 50% more torque than standard, I'm sure the components will withstand it...but not forever. You are more likely to be replacing driveline components every now and then.

One thing I neglected to mention is cooling. M-B, especially in this era, placed a lot of effort on and developed a lot of expertise in managing the internal airflow of the vehicle, not just the exterior airflow. In fact I think depending on configuration the vehicles overall Cd was 0.27 (lower is better) which is incredible for the era, and still very competitive in today's landscape. But I'm bringing this up because it is likely that the internal airflow of the vehicle was significantly reworked to go from an E500 to an E55, from a cooling perspective (the E55 has a higher Cd). You may not be looking to step-up all the way to E55-level power, but depending on where exactly you're looking to end up - certainly if you're looking for the kinds of gains you can expect from forced induction (even if you don't get it by forced induction) - you're going to want to make some provisions for that.