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will there be any bluetooth upgrade for w211?

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Old 10-30-2004, 05:13 AM
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will there be any bluetooth upgrade for w211?

The new Acura TL has that, my friend's e60 545i just got software update and bluetooth phone works in those cars. I need this feature and I think MB must have this as well.
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Ipolo,

Totally agree. Unfortunatelly, we don't have that and hopefully someone can help us retrofit this back to our car...

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The new Acura TL has that, my friend's e60 545i just got software update and bluetooth phone works in those cars. I need this feature and I think MB must have this as well.
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If M-B does studies of their customer base - and they surely do - they probably find that there is less general demand for Bluetooth and other leading-edge entertainment/communication functions than is the case with (say) Acura and BMW drivers. They deploy their R&D money accordingly. Keep in mind that the people in this forum aren't necessarily representative of the technical interest and expertise of M-B drivers in general. For one thing, we undoubtedly spend a lot more time on computers than does the typical Realtor® in an S or SL.
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The new Acura TL has that, my friend's e60 545i just got software update and bluetooth phone works in those cars. I need this feature and I think MB must have this as well.
I hope the Acura or BMW's bluetooth works better than the Lexus system as I was utterly disappointed with the latter. I just finished a review in the telematics section comparing between the MB V60 and a V600 in a 2005 Lexus and I find the latter unusable for my purposes.
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It should still be offered on a car this expensive and this caliber. How hard could it be to integrate an already exisiting technology that is not expensive into their overpriced phone system? They dont offer it becasue they no they dont need to in order to attract customers. With so many invoice and below deals going out the door on every C, CLK, E, S etc, which are their bread and butter cars, they will have to start to compete on the electronics end. Hopefully.. its annoying to pay 10K to 20K more than avg sedan and not have these things..

I have confidence in Steve (mbenznl) that he'll provide us with a solution
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Bluetooth

I have been reading all these posts complaining about not having Bluetooth. I have bluetooth in two E320s, and I have a pristine 98 Toyota Supra....all have bluetooth as do our phones. Whats the big deal! I had the kits installed, and all have voice dial, etc. My phone stays in my pocket. I just changed phones from the V600 to a new Audiovox 5600...no problem.

Just get one of the many bluetooth adaptor kits, have it installed, and bingo...there you are....no fuss, no muss. And no antiquated and overly expensive phones.
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josterholt,

Can you share with me that how you make the BT to work in your W211? Is it OEM? Can I use other phone?

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I have been reading all these posts complaining about not having Bluetooth. I have bluetooth in two E320s, and I have a pristine 98 Toyota Supra....all have bluetooth as do our phones. Whats the big deal! I had the kits installed, and all have voice dial, etc. My phone stays in my pocket. I just changed phones from the V600 to a new Audiovox 5600...no problem.

Just get one of the many bluetooth adaptor kits, have it installed, and bingo...there you are....no fuss, no muss. And no antiquated and overly expensive phones.
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josterholt,

Can you share with me that how you make the BT to work in your W211? Is it OEM? Can I use other phone?

Thanks!
There are several BT kits available. Parrot, SonyEricsson and Nokia among others produce such kits. They are all "stand-alone- kits" that you can install in any car, and is not made for the W/S211 particular.
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Oslo,

Is it using the same original speaker phone in the car now? How do that pair with my phone? I have Sony/Ecrisson phone and talk a lot in the car therefore I want to get this thing done as soon as I can.

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There are several BT kits available. Parrot, SonyEricsson and Nokia among others produce such kits. They are all "stand-alone- kits" that you can install in any car, and is not made for the W/S211 particular.
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BT is both good and bad.

Good...phone connects to multiple cars. You use your own phone. Car can support multiple phones simultaneoulsy.

Bad...Verizon, the major US carrier, isn't currently selling a BT phone (apparently withdrew the 710). Many implementations still require you to use the phone (i.e., on the Acura TL, you need to use the phone to enter voice menu entries, on the BMW, you need to twirl the wheel to do the same). And since the phone isn't connected, the phone battery drains.

My dealer says he expects MB to have a BT adapter in 12 months or so. And I understand a third party is working on one also.

Our biggest MB phone problem probably isn't BT, but the outrageous prices MB charges!!!

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Originally Posted by hlkc
Oslo,

Is it using the same original speaker phone in the car now? How do that pair with my phone? I have Sony/Ecrisson phone and talk a lot in the car therefore I want to get this thing done as soon as I can.

Thanks!
Here you can get some informations:

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108397

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=106191

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=CK3100

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=HCB-30
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Oslo,

Thanks a lot!
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The problem with the kits is they don't integrate with the phone buttons on the steering wheel nor the COMAND.
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Originally Posted by Samoan_Ridah
The problem with the kits is they don't integrate with the phone buttons on the steering wheel nor the COMAND.
Is that really a problem? I thought problems had another definition....
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Hi,

I have a motorola kit in my two W211s, and a Sony kit in my Supra. All use the existing radio/speakers....all have voice dialing...all have radio cut off when the phone rings....all are answered from the Bluetooth controls, not the phone. I have used three different Motorola phones with all three, one Sony model, and now my new Audiovox. This isnt rocket science, and it is MUCH BETTER than the old technology, and TDMA phones sold by MB for huge profits.

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Originally Posted by josterholt
Hi,

I have a motorola kit in my two W211s, and a Sony kit in my Supra. All use the existing radio/speakers....all have voice dialing...all have radio cut off when the phone rings....all are answered from the Bluetooth controls, not the phone. I have used three different Motorola phones with all three, one Sony model, and now my new Audiovox. This isnt rocket science, and it is MUCH BETTER than the old technology, and TDMA phones sold by MB for huge profits.

Jack
Jack,
More info please. Where do you live? Where did you buy these packages. How hard was it to install? Ddi you you do it or was it performed by a aftermarket co? How much? Are there compatible Nokia packages besides the items sold in the UK as mentioned above.
Thanks Jay
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Jack,
More info please. Where do you live? Where did you buy these packages. How hard was it to install? Ddi you you do it or was it performed by a aftermarket co? How much? Are there compatible Nokia packages besides the items sold in the UK as mentioned above.
Thanks Jay
Noe that he has Bluetooth installed in a Toyota. Getting a MB system to work through the audio speakers (including muting when a call is made) is, I understand, either difficult or impossible. That means in a MB, a Bleutooth kit would likely give you handsfree but not much else. I've tried a plug-in Bluetooth made by Parrot (I think its called DriveBlue). Plusg into the lighter socket and provides handsfree and voice dialing. I do not consider it an adequate solution because (1) you still need to use the phone's keypad for dialing; (2) it has no external antenna (3) it does not charge the phone, so you need to provide for that separately (4) it needs an external microphone for hadsfree to work acceptably, (5) it does not mute the stereo (6) the quality of the voice recognition leaves much to be desired (failure to recognize names even after "trained" and failure to dial PINs (so you can't say "voicemail" and have it dial through to your voicemail box, meaning you have to pick up the phone to "speed dial" the number. As far as I know the built in kits (as opposed to the plug-in kits) will suffer from at least 1,2,3 and 5 in a newer MB, so I'm waiting for the integrated phone.
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The good thing about the MB systemis that it charges your phone, and it has a integrated antenna in the car.... not sure if bluetooth enabled cars have integrated antenna in the car 4 better reception...
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