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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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I dropped it off this afternoon, and said I want it back by Friday night (I have a road trip planned for the weekend). Lead tech said he would do the work himself - I suggested they need to just replace the whole rear deck if they can't find the problem. I don't know how well that will go over.

Very base C250 loaner, which isn't as bad as I thought it would be. And guess what - it creaks too.



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Yep, I had the Shop steward ride with me and he diagnosed the issue. I left the car for 3 days and received a loaner. Came back when it was ready and it has been working perfectly since that time. Yep leave it with them once you show them what you are talking about. GOOD LUCK!
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:32 PM
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I dropped it off this afternoon, and said I want it back by Friday night (I have a road trip planned for the weekend). Lead tech said he would do the work himself - I suggested they need to just replace the whole rear deck if they can't find the problem. I don't know how well that will go over.

Very base C250 loaner, which isn't as bad as I thought it would be. And guess what - it creaks too.
To be honest. All C Classes rattle, squeak and creek! I have only been inside one C that made 0 noise. It was a 04 C320 4Matic. Never a interior noise and dead quite like my E350. None of my Mercedes make interior noise except my C240 and even that is starting to become quite. I must say the w212 is well put together with the exception of some temp sensitive plastics.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 11:58 PM
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S213 E450 4Matic, W111 220SE - prior cars: 3x W212, W210 E55 AMG, W202 C43 AMG, W126 300SE
So your E is quiet? I wonder what the mix is for quiet vs creaky cars, or if normal people even notice or care about these quirks. It's really irksome, as my car is pretty perfect otherwise.

I have to admit I laughed when I first heard the C creak in exactly the same manner as my car. It made me think this might just be a modern MB thing.


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To be honest. All C Classes rattle, squeak and creek! I have only been inside one C that made 0 noise. It was a 04 C320 4Matic. Never a interior noise and dead quite like my E350. None of my Mercedes make interior noise except my C240 and even that is starting to become quite. I must say the w212 is well put together with the exception of some temp sensitive plastics.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fintail
So your E is quiet? I wonder what the mix is for quiet vs creaky cars, or if normal people even notice or care about these quirks. It's really irksome, as my car is pretty perfect otherwise.

I have to admit I laughed when I first heard the C creak in exactly the same manner as my car. It made me think this might just be a modern MB thing.
Yes it is very quite. Only some small creeks around the speedo cluster area when very hot. A temp sensitive plastic issue. I am sure I can fix it with black felt or something. Other then that it's fine. I can see if someone hits a massive bump of some sort you could get creeks and noise but I have not had those issues.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 04:00 AM
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Every M-B I've had has creaked and groaned like a boat in terms of actual suspension, namely at low speeds. If you ever shift the car from R to D or vice versa at a stop, with the door cracked or window down, you'll hear suspension squeaks/creaks/groans right there. Getting out of the car did it on my M-B's at well (the same suspension or chassis groans). They always bothered me and literally were identical from my W220 S Class to my last W212 E Class.

As for rattles/creaks/etc. while driving, my 2010 E started getting annoying toward the end of my time with it (1 year). Ironically, my 2011 E STARTED as a rattle-trap, I even made a thread "Uh oh, I think my car may be a rattle trap" or something along those lines, but the issues seemed to subside after time, though they'd come back randomly. It was like a symphony where one rattle would go away, then another would literally pop up immediately. When that one went, the other would come back, etc.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Zero noises from my E350 at 29k miles except for tires....that noise stopped after replacing worn rears. I'm the second owner so I don't know if the first owner debugged it or not. My C320 was a constant battle with noise. Never could get the seats, pbrake, or rear suspension to stay permanently quiet.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by K-A
Every M-B I've had has creaked and groaned like a boat in terms of actual suspension, namely at low speeds. If you ever shift the car from R to D or vice versa at a stop, with the door cracked or window down, you'll hear suspension squeaks/creaks/groans right there. Getting out of the car did it on my M-B's at well (the same suspension or chassis groans). They always bothered me and literally were identical from my W220 S Class to my last W212 E Class.

As for rattles/creaks/etc. while driving, my 2010 E started getting annoying toward the end of my time with it (1 year). Ironically, my 2011 E STARTED as a rattle-trap, I even made a thread "Uh oh, I think my car may be a rattle trap" or something along those lines, but the issues seemed to subside after time, though they'd come back randomly. It was like a symphony where one rattle would go away, then another would literally pop up immediately. When that one went, the other would come back, etc.
Really? I cannot say the same. Only time I had a suspension squeaks was when it was worn down. I never had suspension noises other then that one time. I don't have ownership experience with the 211 or 220 like you do thou.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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To be honest. All C Classes rattle, squeak and creek! I have only been inside one C that made 0 noise. It was a 04 C320 4Matic. Never a interior noise and dead quite like my E350. None of my Mercedes make interior noise except my C240 and even that is starting to become quite. I must say the w212 is well put together with the exception of some temp sensitive plastics.
My 2008 C-Class had one creak and that was on the mirror and easy to fix once I found out where it was. Then there were no additional issues with that car.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mleskovar
Zero noises from my E350 at 29k miles except for tires....that noise stopped after replacing worn rears. I'm the second owner so I don't know if the first owner debugged it or not. My C320 was a constant battle with noise. Never could get the seats, pbrake, or rear suspension to stay permanently quiet.
I had the same with my 05 C240. Worste rattling, squeaking, clicking and piping interior car ever!! Now at 95,000 miles it feels solid due to constantly yanking apart the interior. Cheaply built little car.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 05:28 PM
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Zero noises from my E350 at 29k miles except for tires....that noise stopped after replacing worn rears. I'm the second owner so I don't know if the first owner debugged it or not. My C320 was a constant battle with noise. Never could get the seats, pbrake, or rear suspension to stay permanently quiet.
My former 2010 E30 4MATIC Sport did not make any creaks or rattles, very quiet car.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 07:47 PM
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Really? I cannot say the same. Only time I had a suspension squeaks was when it was worn down. I never had suspension noises other then that one time. I don't have ownership experience with the 211 or 220 like you do thou.
Yeah I dunno what it was. Literally the exact same creaking/squeaking noise coming from the same suspension or chassis area on all of them. I hated it as it made it sound like an old Cadillac or something when I'd be parking or getting in/out. And no, I'm nowhere in the vicinity of overweight, lol.
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Old Jun 6, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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I've had an odd noise or two from the dash or A-pillar area when very hot too - but always a one time only thing. I can live with that. The relatively constant click or pop from the rear is a different story.

I've had several MBs, no odd suspension noises or rattles in them. W210 did have the typical sunroof rattle, but I cured it by pulling down the headliner and inserting thin cloth. W126 leather would kind of squeak sometimes, but it was old. Fintail will make a little noise in hot dry weather too, but it is a million years old and unrestored, so it has a right.

I talked to the advisor today - they are apparently going to replace the rear shade (?) - we will see what this does. Should be back by tomorrow evening, I have a bit of driving planned for the weekend, for a good test.



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Yes it is very quite. Only some small creeks around the speedo cluster area when very hot. A temp sensitive plastic issue. I am sure I can fix it with black felt or something. Other then that it's fine. I can see if someone hits a massive bump of some sort you could get creeks and noise but I have not had those issues.
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I have snaps and creaks in my AMG, but have never noticed a peep in my Ething is pretty solid, must be because it's a 550(I kid)
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I have snaps and creaks in my AMG, but have never noticed a peep in my Ething is pretty solid, must be because it's a 550(I kid)
LOL!, must be the torque of that big V8, while it is catapulting you down the highway
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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They all rattle/creak, by the very nature of the materials used and how they are fastened. Anyone who says their car is rattle free needs hearing examined or they just aren't sensitive to the small sounds. Drive with the windows up, no fan, no radio, in the dead of winter and you'll hear a veritable symphony of rattle/creak sounds.
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LOL!, must be the torque of that big V8, while it is catapulting you down the highway
haha, but they're both V8's....
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They all rattle/creak, by the very nature of the materials used and how they are fastened. Anyone who says their car is rattle free needs hearing examined or they just aren't sensitive to the small sounds. Drive with the windows up, no fan, no radio, in the dead of winter and you'll hear a veritable symphony of rattle/creak sounds.
Actually no, not all cars creak and rattle. I have driven most, if not all, of my cars in the manner you have presented here. Without the radio on, with windows up, air off, engine on, besides the normally expected noises of the road and the suspension doing its job, early in the morning and no audible noises. Did this test on my 2010 and I got no squeaks, creaks, and rattles. Same test on my 2012 after the fix, and that is also a very quiet car.
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haha, but they're both V8's....
Yeah, but since the AMG is actually a time machine, camouflaged as a car, it goes through different dimensions while accelerating, of course due those stresses you are going to have time-related metal and plastic transition noises!
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Originally Posted by hyperion667
I have snaps and creaks in my AMG, but have never noticed a peep in my Ething is pretty solid, must be because it's a 550(I kid)
why don't you keep your solid machine and i'll take good care of your snaps and creaks .
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Actually no, not all cars creak and rattle. I have driven most, if not all, of my cars in the manner you have presented here. Without the radio on, with windows up, air off, engine on, besides the normally expected noises of the road and the suspension doing its job, early in the morning and no audible noises. Did this test on my 2010 and I got no squeaks, creaks, and rattles. Same test on my 2012 after the fix, and that is also a very quiet car.
Not buyin' it.
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Not buyin' it.
Those diesels are just plain noisy
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I remain hopeful that my car will be as quiet as Nuru's, but if the current repair doesn't fix it, I am going to chalk it up to a design or materials flaw/quirk and try to tune it out. This is visit number 4.

I get the car back in the morning and plan to drive a bit this weekend, so we'll see.



Originally Posted by thekurgan
They all rattle/creak, by the very nature of the materials used and how they are fastened. Anyone who says their car is rattle free needs hearing examined or they just aren't sensitive to the small sounds. Drive with the windows up, no fan, no radio, in the dead of winter and you'll hear a veritable symphony of rattle/creak sounds.
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I remain hopeful that my car will be as quiet as Nuru's, but if the current repair doesn't fix it, I am going to chalk it up to a design or materials flaw/quirk and try to tune it out. This is visit number 4.

I get the car back in the morning and plan to drive a bit this weekend, so we'll see.
Good Luck and I hope they finally got it.
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