E-Class (W212) 2010 - 2016: E 350, E 550

some questions on the E

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 11-09-2010, 01:26 PM
  #1  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
dariusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago (Palos Park)
Posts: 1,000
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2023 CLA 250, 2003 CLK320
some questions on the E

Hi, I have looked over some pictures and looks like there are two versions of the E Sedan. The ones I see in US car dealers (two deferent dealers) that have the gear shifter in the staring column and then I see some version in the online pics in this forum that have it in the center console like the old E. I'm referring to automatic transmission cars here.

I have also seen pictures of deferent front seat styles. The ones in US dealers look very flat like something out of a car in the 60s. (like the beige in the pic bellow) I also found some pics of seats that look closer to the coupe versions.

Any inputs / clarifications?

Thanks



Old 11-09-2010, 02:17 PM
  #2  
Member
 
LRM1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Reality
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2021 E450 4matic
The seats seem to be the same other than the black ones look leather and the almond, MB Tex

As for the gear shifter I have yet to see an E350/550 sedan with a shifter in the center column. I know the coupe/convertibles use the center gear shifter knob, but that photo doesn't look like anything I've seen.
Old 11-09-2010, 02:25 PM
  #3  
Member
 
piper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As for the gear shifter: The picture you posted is of an E63 and thats how that model comes. However, I believe for 2011 the shifter moves from the stock down to the center console for 350/550.

As for the seats: I'm sure the difference is a standard seat vs. a multicontoured active seats...but not 100% sure.
Old 11-09-2010, 02:29 PM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
dariusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago (Palos Park)
Posts: 1,000
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2023 CLA 250, 2003 CLK320
Originally Posted by LRM1
The seats seem to be the same other than the black ones look leather and the almond, MB Tex

As for the gear shifter I have yet to see an E350/550 sedan with a shifter in the center column. I know the coupe/convertibles use the center gear shifter knob, but that photo doesn't look like anything I've seen.
You can even see that on the US MB website in the 360 view. The shift knob is in the steering wheel column. Very awkward and 60s like design.

The seats as you can see in the beige car are much more flat, not wrap around and the cuts go up/down verses the black going sideways. The Black looks to be more sporty. I checked both the luxury and sport versions of the E350 sedan and both had the same seats like the beige in that pic.
Old 11-09-2010, 02:39 PM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
RW C55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Taipei Taiwan
Posts: 1,027
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
'10 E63 Obsidiant Black; '06 R350 Alabaster White; 05 C55 Obsidiant Black (sold)
The black seats have the optional active side bolster seats.
Old 11-09-2010, 02:42 PM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
dariusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago (Palos Park)
Posts: 1,000
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2023 CLA 250, 2003 CLK320
Originally Posted by piper
As for the gear shifter: The picture you posted is of an E63 and thats how that model comes. However, I believe for 2011 the shifter moves from the stock down to the center console for 350/550.

As for the seats: I'm sure the difference is a standard seat vs. a multicontoured active seats...but not 100% sure.
You are right, just did more googling and E63 it is

Thanks for the seat info. The ones in the two Es we test drove turned us off to that car Good to know there is an option even if the dealers are not aware of it. Hopefully its available in the US
Old 11-09-2010, 02:45 PM
  #7  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
dariusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago (Palos Park)
Posts: 1,000
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2023 CLA 250, 2003 CLK320
here is another pic of the seats

Old 11-09-2010, 02:47 PM
  #8  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
dariusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago (Palos Park)
Posts: 1,000
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2023 CLA 250, 2003 CLK320
and here is another pic of the seat that the two US dealers had in their cars. Is that a stick shift there?

Old 11-09-2010, 02:53 PM
  #9  
Administrator

 
amdeutsch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: www.Traben-Trarbach.de
Posts: 15,720
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
MPG+ ROLFCOPTER
Please look at the disclaimer than tells you that some of the pics are ROW cars versus US cars. By STFF'ng MBW you will find references that ROW has options that are not in the US version.
Old 11-09-2010, 03:06 PM
  #10  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
dariusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago (Palos Park)
Posts: 1,000
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2023 CLA 250, 2003 CLK320
Very interesting. Looks like the two car dealer sales people (deferent dealers in Chicago area) had no clue. There are options of Multi Contour ($755) seats and Drive dynamic ($405) or is that Drive dynamic upgrade to multi contour?

https://mbworld.org/forums/e-class-w...tour-seat.html

Last edited by dariusf; 11-09-2010 at 03:06 PM. Reason: added link
Old 11-10-2010, 11:11 AM
  #11  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
aeggroup's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 1,851
Received 53 Likes on 39 Posts
2023 Range Rover, 2020 MB S450
Originally Posted by dariusf
and here is another pic of the seat that the two US dealers had in their cars. Is that a stick shift there?

It does not look like E class ....at least sedan. May be coupe, but I'm not sure. Center armrest is not E's.
Old 11-10-2010, 11:37 AM
  #12  
MBWorld Fanatic!
Thread Starter
 
dariusf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chicago (Palos Park)
Posts: 1,000
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
2023 CLA 250, 2003 CLK320
Originally Posted by aeggroup
It does not look like E class ....at least sedan. May be coupe, but I'm not sure. Center armrest is not E's.
Maybe the arm rest is not from a US sedan (the pic is from wagon) but the seats are like the sedans for sale at the dealers in Chicago area.

Here is a pic from the USA Mercedes website showing the seats. These were the only seats that the sales person told us were available. Next time I will be at the dealer with my CLK, I will check about the Multi Contour and Drive dynamic seats as an option.


Old 11-10-2010, 12:36 PM
  #13  
Super Member
 
LaicepsYdobon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Essex County, NJ
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2011 E350 Sport 4Matic - P2 & Drivers Assist / 2010 C300 Sport 4Matic - P2 / 2013 Porsche Cayenne S
Originally Posted by dariusf
Hi, I have looked over some pictures and looks like there are two versions of the E Sedan. The ones I see in US car dealers (two deferent dealers) that have the gear shifter in the staring column and then I see some version in the online pics in this forum that have it in the center console like the old E. I'm referring to automatic transmission cars here.
There are three transmission styles for the E-Class in the US. The E350 sedan and wagon along with the E550 sedan have the transmission on the steering column (left side on your pictures). The E63 AMG has a small shifter (unique to the AMGs only) in the center console (right side on your pictures). The E Coupes (both 350 & 550) have their shifters in the middle but they have proper sized shifter which are bigger than the one the AMG models have. Look at this picture:

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicl...-E/model-E350C

Originally Posted by dariusf
I have also seen pictures of deferent front seat styles. The ones in US dealers look very flat like something out of a car in the 60s. (like the beige in the pic bellow) I also found some pics of seats that look closer to the coupe versions.
The difference between the seats is the leather vs. the MB-Tex. The beige in your picture is MB-Tex the black is leather.



[/QUOTE]
Old 11-10-2010, 01:10 PM
  #14  
z0h
Junior Member
 
z0h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2010 E550
Originally Posted by dariusf
and here is another pic of the seat that the two US dealers had in their cars. Is that a stick shift there?


take a look behind the rear seats- that looks like a new R-class as there is another seat belt in the back slot against the rear wall
Old 11-10-2010, 03:05 PM
  #15  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Tjdehya's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NM
Posts: 2,104
Received 246 Likes on 156 Posts
2023 EQS 580
alot of misinformation in this thread. lol
Different seats: Mb-tex, Leather, leather w/Drive-dynamic multicontour seats
Different Gear shifter: E350/550 sedan/wagon, E350/550 coupe, E63 AMG

Picture in post #8 I believe thats a picture of the GLK,
Old 11-10-2010, 04:35 PM
  #16  
K-A
Out Of Control!!
 
K-A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Originally Posted by Tjdehya
alot of misinformation in this thread. lol
Different seats: Mb-tex, Leather, leather w/Drive-dynamic multicontour seats
Different Gear shifter: E350/550 sedan/wagon, E350/550 coupe, E63 AMG

Picture in post #8 I believe thats a picture of the GLK,
Some more misinformation.

That is definitely a S212 in pic #8, look at the door trimming, it's a design exclusive to the W212. Also, you can get a slight glimpse of the W212's center stack.

I think it's gotta be a EU Manual optioned model?
Old 11-10-2010, 04:40 PM
  #17  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
aeggroup's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 1,851
Received 53 Likes on 39 Posts
2023 Range Rover, 2020 MB S450
Originally Posted by K-A
That is definitely a S212 in pic #8, look at the door trimming, it's a design exclusive to the W212. Also, you can get a slight glimpse of the W212's center stack.
Cmon K ....look at rear window...and the room between rear seats and window. It does not look like sedan at all. More like R or GLK
Old 11-10-2010, 04:44 PM
  #18  
Member
 
LRM1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Reality
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2021 E450 4matic
Originally Posted by dariusf
You can even see that on the US MB website in the 360 view. The shift knob is in the steering wheel column. Very awkward and 60s like design.

The seats as you can see in the beige car are much more flat, not wrap around and the cuts go up/down verses the black going sideways. The Black looks to be more sporty. I checked both the luxury and sport versions of the E350 sedan and both had the same seats like the beige in that pic.
Sorry when I said "center column" I meant the center, not the steering column. I have the 2011 and the shifter is on the steering wheel column
Old 11-10-2010, 04:45 PM
  #19  
K-A
Out Of Control!!
 
K-A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Originally Posted by aeggroup
Cmon K ....look at rear window...and the room between rear seats and window. It does not look like sedan at all. More like R or GLK
That's why I said S212. I.e the Wagon version.
Old 11-10-2010, 04:46 PM
  #20  
Member
 
LRM1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Reality
Posts: 212
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2021 E450 4matic
Originally Posted by aeggroup
It does not look like E class ....at least sedan. May be coupe, but I'm not sure. Center armrest is not E's.
Look at the back. It looks like either a wagon or the R class. That is definitely not a sedan. It has a flat rear window.
Old 11-10-2010, 05:25 PM
  #21  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
RW C55's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Taipei Taiwan
Posts: 1,027
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
'10 E63 Obsidiant Black; '06 R350 Alabaster White; 05 C55 Obsidiant Black (sold)
E-estate for sure.
Old 11-10-2010, 07:59 PM
  #22  
Senior Member
 
kingofire's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2010 Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic
Originally Posted by LaicepsYdobon
The difference between the seats is the leather vs. the MB-Tex. The beige in your picture is MB-Tex the black is leather.
Actually it is the opposite. Horizontal lines=MB Tex and Vertical lines=real leather. So the beige is the natural leather and black is the MB Tex
Old 11-10-2010, 08:01 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
kingofire's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
2010 Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic
Originally Posted by z0h
take a look behind the rear seats- that looks like a new R-class as there is another seat belt in the back slot against the rear wall
When I check the properties of that picture it says the picture is from a 2011 E350 Wagon. So it seems that it may be the wagon.
Old 11-10-2010, 08:11 PM
  #24  
Super Member
 
LaicepsYdobon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Essex County, NJ
Posts: 978
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
2011 E350 Sport 4Matic - P2 & Drivers Assist / 2010 C300 Sport 4Matic - P2 / 2013 Porsche Cayenne S
Originally Posted by kingofire
Actually it is the opposite. Horizontal lines=MB Tex and Vertical lines=real leather. So the beige is the natural leather and black is the MB Tex
You are correct; I stand corrected
Old 11-10-2010, 08:58 PM
  #25  
Member
 
htn75's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 196
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
11 E550, 05 NSX, 12 QX56, 93 Z32 TT, 12 CLS550
I think the OP is thoroughly confused.
What a great pop quiz.


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: some questions on the E



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:53 AM.