Tai230K

Does anyone have pictures of a E350 or E550 without the P1 option or P2 option (no navigation). Dealer has one in stock and I won't be able to take a look at it since it's in "warehouse"

petee1997

Why would you want a car equipped like a Honda Civic? If I were you I would avoid that car like the plague. You would be better off with a well equipped Buick if it's about price.

sosh

Agreed! However there is lots more here from a safety standpoint than a Honda or Buick. As for not being able to see it, the dealer is not taking you seriously as I am certain he wants to sell it if it exists.

E550Shopper

Agree with above -- this sounds fishy. Not many people are going to want this car, they should be bending over backward to accomodate you. Not even sure why they've stocked it, unless someone ordered it custom and then balked.

SalTheMan

IT EXISTS.... http://www.starmotorcars.com/detail-...w-4845014.html Hahahahaa

park423

nice one lol

JP465NY

With a car like that the dealer would like a hefty deposit according to my salesman. I ordered an E350 that I could not take because my current lease could not be terminated. I did not give a deposit even though it was a P1 car. It was Arctic White w/ Pano so I guess they move quickly. Now I will soon order an E550, same color but with P2 and I will not have to leave a deposit.

RNBRAD

My civic has voice activated nav, card reader, leather heated seats, etc. So in this case my civic would be more equiped than his benz. That doesn't make sense. lol

I never really understood why people would want to buy a stripped down Benz. Just save your money till you can afford what a Benz offers. I guarantee though, there is someone out there that would opt for manual windows if they offered it.

JP465NY

Yes, a friend of mine got a new 3 series BMW in 2008. I get in it for the first time and want to adjust the passenger front seat. No power seat!!!! A stripped down model he got for around $32K.

SalTheMan

Well to everyone his own I guess, some people would prefer the E550 engine and drive experience without the extra unneeded options and would settle for the standard. He could install his preferred navigation for 1/2 price Xenon headlamps without the extra's the P2 offers and such. Were given the option to build a car to suit our preferences and needs.

Dzul

Anyone know what sound system such a vehicle would have?

chilledbenz

I don't see why people are giving the original poster such a hard time. The E class in standard trim is a well equipped car. To that point, if I were to order one I would go the same route as I see no need for $4k worth of navigation and radio systems.

As for the original question on pictures. The dash layout is the same in all models regardless of package. They all have a 7 inch high resolution display in the center.

The standard radio that would be found in such a car is a 8 speaker system, with a 6 disk CD/DVD changer.

With that all said, I wouldn't bother trying to order a base car as dealers are more than willing to give you a discount on a car already on the lot. In which case, you could end up with a P1 car for around the same money as a standard equipped car if you had to order it.

will4iron

Agree. not all of MB OEM are not great. Someafter market items are way better than OEM of MB. I like my small screen Garmin better than mbrace command nav system came with my E350. cheaper too! haha

mike2016

My 2011 E350 is a base model, with NO option/pkg. $50275 sticker.

I asked specifically for one like this, in white. And my friend who works at MB just happen to have one got delivered the same day.

The way I see it with these pkgs...

the nav is useless for me. I don't drive this car out of town, and I know the local roads very well. Plus, I use iPhone map more than anything else.

The standard sound is decent, it's not like I'm listening to high quality audio all the time, I download mp3s and listen to radio

A standard E is still well equipped and is much more luxurious than a fully loaded Honda or Toyota, there's no comparison. More high tech **** don't mean more luxury. It's the feeling.

Standard comes with the LCD too, which is pretty cool.

Finally, I bought this car for the wife for her bday, and you guys should know, they don't know how to use half the buttons in the car.

anjy834u

you can take a loot at the pictures of e class in the following link.

http://mercedesbenze.net/2010-merced...lass-pictures/

Arrie

Does your Garmin also give an option to select an alternative route or does it only offer one?

Does it have a dynamic routing that changes based on traffic conditions?

Does it have as big screen as the OEM screen is?

I see a lot of people like their small Garmins but these people seem to be ones who for some other reason opted not to have the OEM Navi. MB Navi is one of the best compared to all navigation systems you can buy.

aeggroup

I, sometimes, use my daughter’s Garmin .....and my 2010 E350 has P2 package, which as you understand includes NAVI, and I'm paying extra for real traffic update. I can confirm - Garmin has a lot more options for searching points of interests and it includes real traffic update when you pay extra for that service ( the same like MB). I agree, that OEM MB navigation is very convenient thing to use, but in many cases it fails to find or guide you to the place you need to go.

Tjdehya

Mb Navi SUCKS!!! When compared to Nav's in other cars. It isn't much better than a $80 Garmin and definitely not better than my ~$500 iphone.
The thing that pisses me off about the Nav is that it takes too long to enter a simple address using voice prompt (which you have to use if you are already driving and don't want to stop.)

Arrie

To enter address while driving other than talking is actually illegal. This is why MB has disabled the possibility to enter address from buttons while driving. They might be liable of an accident here in U.S. you know. In Europe there is no problem to enter address while driving at all.

Also, the Garmin asks you to agree not to enter address while driving (or warns anyway), at least the one I used (and still have somewhere) did.

I agree the POIs could be better but if you stop for a moment and find the place you need to go to with yout iPhone (yelp is what I use) you get the address and can enter it in the car's Navi.

But after you have your address in the MB Navi the iPhone DOES NOT COME EVEN CLOSE comparing how it guides you to the address. I have one and yes, it is handy when traveling by plane and rental car but comparing it to the OEM Navi in the MB is just silly.

What comes to Mbrace I feel it being a quite good safety feature in the car. For $300 / year I don't think it is so very expensive and it gives you an option to email address or POI from your computer (google maps) to your car. There also is an option to pay premium for the Mbrace and they will send the address to your car if the POI list in your car does not have it.

One of the best features of the OEM Navi is the alternative routing options. Depending where you are going you can select from 2-3 different routings it calculates for you if you want to go different way than what it gives as the first option.

Tjdehya

Yes I know this. I am talking about the process... It SUCKS!!! Try the same process on a BMW... It’s easy you just say "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington, D.C." Try entering the same on our cars... Sometimes it feels like an interrogation. Entering a POI is equally as painful. MB Nav is not the worst but is far from the best especially for a $70k+ car.

fromthebeginnin

Had a 2001 S you could enter the address while moving (or a passenger could), it would be a nice function/mod if a passenger was in the car and could enter it, I heard European vehicles work that way, anyone ever hear about one?

Edit just found this listed in another thread for those interested:

navi can be unlocked with our vim modules... there is a programming option built into our vim that permanently unlocks the navi data entry to work at any speed. Its available for W204 an W212...

here is a demo of the W204 (c class):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6s40YpjhZo __________________
www.midcityengineering.com

K-A

Noo way. M-B Navigation SUCKS. My W220's was a joke (original CD based), my '06 W211's was a tad better (DVD based), and I expected the W212 to finally get it perfect, which it didn't. Just another marginal improvement.

Of course, any Navi is better than no Navi, but if we're on the Navi subject, M-B is slacking.

Diablo_CLS55

Haha, I know this post is old as hell, but I remember my 2003 E500 was pretty much bare bones. Had the basic luxury features such as power windows locks sunroof and seats but literally nothing aside from that. No xenons, no distronic, no HK sound system, no Navi, no rear sunshade, not even heated and cooled seats. My 95 Volvo 850 is better equipped than that car 😂 The e500 did compensate by being ultra reliable though. Some old man owned it before me as it was a 1 owner, and I guess he didn’t really want all those cool options and only cared about the badge on the hood. My 2007 E550 is a huge improvement tho. Only options it’s missing were HIDs (which I added myself) and Distronic (which I don’t really need anyway) and pano sunroof. I believe it’s P1.

LILBENZ230

So you realize the threads are 10 years old, but you choose to be a necromancer anyway?

DFWdude