Just Bought a New E Class! (w/ Color Display and Sirius Weather)
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I've learned that the venders online here will say just about anything to get our dollars.........buy and beware.......MOD and beware......
I would never dump money into a car I had to give back......
leasing has always seemed really dumb to me.......it isn't yours you know?
but I doubt those leasing ever come to that realization......
kind of like a house: sure you live there and mow; but the bank owns it.....
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Agreed. M-B could have finished the new one with something more elegant than an abrupt hole. It's the details that count!
I'd still rather have the new 4.5 though, but hey, we can cling to our little areas of supremacy!
I'd still rather have the new 4.5 though, but hey, we can cling to our little areas of supremacy!
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2011 E350
The new color display looks really cool. It doesn't bother me as much that my early '11 W212 doesn't have the color display but the fact that the display is not a "FULL" circle. The "FULL" circle display looks so much better and proportionate. Why did MB designed the early ones with the cut off on the bottom is beyond me.
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2011 Ml 350 4matic, 2010 VW CC Lux
I just purchased a 2011 E350 Black Premium 1 with Beige/Black Sport Interior w/Burl Walnut Wood Trim, and Pano Roof. To my surprise, the car was built last month, so it has the new color instrument cluster and the new navigation system with 3D maps, dynamic route guidance, and Sirius Weather (although I can't activate it for some reason...Sirius said that the dealer could only activate traffic and radio...). The iPod interface is now in the center console and there is BT audio streaming and album artwork for the interface in the COMAND center. I'll post pics ASAP:
I got the car with 8 miles and a MSRP of $55,350 or something like that for $47,000 out the door and $399+ $35 taxes/month for a 24 month lease w/7500 miles/year. I'll probably drive around 12,000 miles, but I'll just pay for the additional miles at the end of the lease.
I was going to get a 2012 C250, but got a great deal on the E350, so when my ordered car comes in, I won't buy it. In my eyes, the only things I lost were the new steering wheel, Blind Spot Assist, Lane Keeping Assist, and Bixenons. Hey, I still got an E class, which is WAYYY NICER!
I got the car with 8 miles and a MSRP of $55,350 or something like that for $47,000 out the door and $399+ $35 taxes/month for a 24 month lease w/7500 miles/year. I'll probably drive around 12,000 miles, but I'll just pay for the additional miles at the end of the lease.
I was going to get a 2012 C250, but got a great deal on the E350, so when my ordered car comes in, I won't buy it. In my eyes, the only things I lost were the new steering wheel, Blind Spot Assist, Lane Keeping Assist, and Bixenons. Hey, I still got an E class, which is WAYYY NICER!
Can you share what dealership you got your car?
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Regarding the whole "Full circle" thing, for those with the new color display, we no longer have the instrument cluster cut off at the bottom. All 2010s and most 2011s have the following instrument cluster with the bottom of the circle cut off so that it can say "mph" on the bottom:
http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalA...y-Int-0004.jpg
However, if you look at my original post, you can see that the bottom is no longer cut off and that the instrument cluster is a full circle.
http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalA...y-Int-0004.jpg
However, if you look at my original post, you can see that the bottom is no longer cut off and that the instrument cluster is a full circle.
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You may have come across some individuals who were unfamiliar with Multiple Security Deposit Leases, but please be careful when making blanket statements like this.
Otherwise keep in mind the biggeast caveat with the MSD Leases is that they are not combinable with subsidized Money Factors. So although it worked out well in leasing the E BTC, not every car will work this way, and not everyone has the extra $5,000 to hand over for a few years. Any model with MFs in the mid .00100's or lower, the math will work better taking advanatge of the subsidized rate. And you get to keep your cash liquid (and riding the rollercoaster of the market like everyone else).
Otherwise keep in mind the biggeast caveat with the MSD Leases is that they are not combinable with subsidized Money Factors. So although it worked out well in leasing the E BTC, not every car will work this way, and not everyone has the extra $5,000 to hand over for a few years. Any model with MFs in the mid .00100's or lower, the math will work better taking advanatge of the subsidized rate. And you get to keep your cash liquid (and riding the rollercoaster of the market like everyone else).
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2012 GLK 350--AMG Package 20" Chromed Wheels, Loaded
Golfster--the cost for going over the alloted miles in a lease is 25 cents a mile if you are with MB Credit. You can call them and re-do your milage. It will raise your payment but that is better than going over your limit by 18,000 miles over 4 years--figuring the difference between 12000 a year and 7500 a year x 4 years. That comes out to $4500 you have to hand over to MB Credit at the end of your lease. Better to spread it out over the 4 years--Maybe $100 a month more. No matter what, never roll a lease with high miles over to a new lease as it raises the cost of the new lease a lot!
Congrats on the new EClass--I've owned 4 of them and love them all!
Congrats on the new EClass--I've owned 4 of them and love them all!
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2012 GLK 350--AMG Package 20" Chromed Wheels, Loaded
I've learned that the venders online here will say just about anything to get our dollars.........buy and beware.......MOD and beware......
I would never dump money into a car I had to give back......
leasing has always seemed really dumb to me.......it isn't yours you know?
but I doubt those leasing ever come to that realization......
kind of like a house: sure you live there and mow; but the bank owns it.....
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To anyone who goes over on a Lease, here's a tip: Several months before your Lease is up (and I'm talking before you qualify for a "Pull Forward" thingy), try and trade the car in to a Dealer for a new one. Find an aggressive Dealer who will pay your current car off (even fight for some positive equity in it, which you may have towards the end of the Lease), and obviously use the new car as incentive to them to just take the current one off your hands if the deal looks enticing enough.
AKA, if you're over on mileage, don't just wait until the turn in date.
Or, if you do wait until the turn in date, go to many Dealers and find one who is aggressive enough to "write off/swallow" your overage in miles, in order to get you into a new car. I've heard of people who've had about 20K miles over, find Dealers who would "eat them".
AKA, if you're over on mileage, don't just wait until the turn in date.
Or, if you do wait until the turn in date, go to many Dealers and find one who is aggressive enough to "write off/swallow" your overage in miles, in order to get you into a new car. I've heard of people who've had about 20K miles over, find Dealers who would "eat them".
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Mercedes e350 BlueTec
You may have come across some individuals who were unfamiliar with Multiple Security Deposit Leases, but please be careful when making blanket statements like this.
Otherwise keep in mind the biggeast caveat with the MSD Leases is that they are not combinable with subsidized Money Factors. So although it worked out well in leasing the E BTC, not every car will work this way, and not everyone has the extra $5,000 to hand over for a few years. Any model with MFs in the mid .00100's or lower, the math will work better taking advanatge of the subsidized rate. And you get to keep your cash liquid (and riding the rollercoaster of the market like everyone else).
Otherwise keep in mind the biggeast caveat with the MSD Leases is that they are not combinable with subsidized Money Factors. So although it worked out well in leasing the E BTC, not every car will work this way, and not everyone has the extra $5,000 to hand over for a few years. Any model with MFs in the mid .00100's or lower, the math will work better taking advanatge of the subsidized rate. And you get to keep your cash liquid (and riding the rollercoaster of the market like everyone else).
I was the first customer in 5 years to use MSD's when I leased the e350 last month. You are correct, MSD's sometimes don't work as well as "subsidized rates"...but you have to run all the numbers to see what works the best....it's a mistake to just accept the dealer's assertion that MSD's are a bad deal or 33 months is the best deal.
Where there are no subsidized rates, MSD's generally pay you an effective yield of 10% or more on your money. I guess you have to decide if keeping that money in the market or elsewhere is a better use of that money....I kind of like a guaranteed 10%.
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Mercedes e350 BlueTec
I received this note today from mercedes.....
you can place an order for the 4.5 manual (brochure # P-6515-6912-13) through the Customer Assistance Center. Please call 888-454-9906 to connect with them."
I suggest that those with comand 4.5 get a copy of this manual as well as the updated voice manual which I am still trying to locate. BTW, the first 2012 e350 at my dealer came with the incorrect comand 4.0 manuals, so at least some 2012 buyers will most likely need to order this manual as well.
you can place an order for the 4.5 manual (brochure # P-6515-6912-13) through the Customer Assistance Center. Please call 888-454-9906 to connect with them."
I suggest that those with comand 4.5 get a copy of this manual as well as the updated voice manual which I am still trying to locate. BTW, the first 2012 e350 at my dealer came with the incorrect comand 4.0 manuals, so at least some 2012 buyers will most likely need to order this manual as well.
Last edited by ghstudio; Sep 30, 2011 at 07:00 PM.
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Of course there are some dealers that do understand MSD's, but in our city, the infiniti, BMW and Mercedes dealers (finance managers) were all unaware that their leases offered MSD's or why they were an excellent value for customers who could afford them. Perhaps it's a southern thing I was the first customer in 5 years to use MSD's when I leased the e350 last month.
I was the first customer in 5 years to use MSD's when I leased the e350 last month. Enjoy your ride!
