19" Replica AMGs installed with the CORRECT offsets
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19" Replica AMGs installed with the CORRECT offsets
I saw a couple of threads asking about the +35 AMG replicas being sold. I was a bit skeptical of the offset sizes as the OEM offsets are +52/+48. Typically for any wheel application you just don't want to get more than +10-12mm off the OEM offset - you start running into all sorts of problems with suspension geometry, bearing wear, tire rubbing, etc. etc. Some forum members are running the equivalent of +30 offsets - I don't think this is correct.
I picked up these wheels for a great deal here are the specs;
Front
245/35/19
19x8 +40
Rear
275/30/19
19x9 +42
These wheels fit flush with the fender and have good tire sizing and cost less than $2k including the $400 MB TPMS sensors (you can reuse your old ones if you want - I chose not to)
Pros: Great conservative look, not too flashy. Best bang for the buck wheels.
Cons: +11lbs on each wheel/tire which is a bit on the heavy side. A bit more road noise and ride harshness over the 18".
Got these wheels from my buddy in LA - you can PM me if you need an introduction. If you're going to buy elsewhere try to get the correct offsets! Cheers
I picked up these wheels for a great deal here are the specs;
Front
245/35/19
19x8 +40
Rear
275/30/19
19x9 +42
These wheels fit flush with the fender and have good tire sizing and cost less than $2k including the $400 MB TPMS sensors (you can reuse your old ones if you want - I chose not to)
Pros: Great conservative look, not too flashy. Best bang for the buck wheels.
Cons: +11lbs on each wheel/tire which is a bit on the heavy side. A bit more road noise and ride harshness over the 18".
Got these wheels from my buddy in LA - you can PM me if you need an introduction. If you're going to buy elsewhere try to get the correct offsets! Cheers
Last edited by ghh429; 09-14-2011 at 02:25 AM.
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They look great, clean, and OEM.
However, the last thing I'd wanna do is diminish ride and harshness and noise quality, and add more weight to the wheels. Just would make me feel like I'm wasting my money on a car like this, personally. Also, IMO the Sport with 18's already sacrifices more smoothness than an E-Class should (although is a pretty great balance, until the roads get super rough).
However, the last thing I'd wanna do is diminish ride and harshness and noise quality, and add more weight to the wheels. Just would make me feel like I'm wasting my money on a car like this, personally. Also, IMO the Sport with 18's already sacrifices more smoothness than an E-Class should (although is a pretty great balance, until the roads get super rough).
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Looks good. If you search graigslist n.y there's a place in jersey selling replica w212 e 63 wheels for 975 without tires and they look dope. I was thinking of getting them for the winter but the staggered and I have a 4 matic so im not sure if it will hurt the drivetrain
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They look great, clean, and OEM.
However, the last thing I'd wanna do is diminish ride and harshness and noise quality, and add more weight to the wheels. Just would make me feel like I'm wasting my money on a car like this, personally. Also, IMO the Sport with 18's already sacrifices more smoothness than an E-Class should (although is a pretty great balance, until the roads get super rough).
However, the last thing I'd wanna do is diminish ride and harshness and noise quality, and add more weight to the wheels. Just would make me feel like I'm wasting my money on a car like this, personally. Also, IMO the Sport with 18's already sacrifices more smoothness than an E-Class should (although is a pretty great balance, until the roads get super rough).
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Your not really harming ride quality with 19". They come with 18" wheels already a 19" up against an 18" isn't a big diff, that 1 inch extra is shared threw out the diameter. Now if you lower it, it will become slightly harsher but not by much
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Actually the ride quality did get a bit worse with the 19" probably because a combination of the 3:
1. Lower profile (by 5mm)
2. Heavier wheel weight
3. Cheap aftermarket tires (not planning to track the E350 haha)
For your 4matic I actually have some experience with AWD cars - I've owned more than 10 in the last 10 years. Typically with most AWD cars there is a large allowance for resistance changes in AWD cars meaning various tire widths and wheels widths is totally fine. The real problem is with diameter changes due to the electronic center diff - stress on this component will blow it up (compared to a mechanical one which will just bind). Typically stress is due to total rotational diameter - as long as you keep this in line you are fine. For example the GTR runs a 285/35/20 and a 255/40/20 despite it being an AWD car and you can pretty much do whatever you want with the tires as long as the diameter ratios stay the same. For the GTR as long as you stay within 5-10% of the OEM rotation diameter size you're fine. The STI and EVOs had a much wider range, there were guys doing stupid things with their tire sizes without causing failures. So to play it safe I would just keep the rotational diameter ratio the same and you're good. One thing to keep in mind 275/30/19 and 255/30/19 DO NOT have the same diameters!
Edit: Just read what I wrote it makes no sense. Summary is
Keep the ratio of the wheel+tire diameters the same using a tire calculator and you will be fine to go as wide or as narrow as you want.
1. Lower profile (by 5mm)
2. Heavier wheel weight
3. Cheap aftermarket tires (not planning to track the E350 haha)
For your 4matic I actually have some experience with AWD cars - I've owned more than 10 in the last 10 years. Typically with most AWD cars there is a large allowance for resistance changes in AWD cars meaning various tire widths and wheels widths is totally fine. The real problem is with diameter changes due to the electronic center diff - stress on this component will blow it up (compared to a mechanical one which will just bind). Typically stress is due to total rotational diameter - as long as you keep this in line you are fine. For example the GTR runs a 285/35/20 and a 255/40/20 despite it being an AWD car and you can pretty much do whatever you want with the tires as long as the diameter ratios stay the same. For the GTR as long as you stay within 5-10% of the OEM rotation diameter size you're fine. The STI and EVOs had a much wider range, there were guys doing stupid things with their tire sizes without causing failures. So to play it safe I would just keep the rotational diameter ratio the same and you're good. One thing to keep in mind 275/30/19 and 255/30/19 DO NOT have the same diameters!
Edit: Just read what I wrote it makes no sense. Summary is
Keep the ratio of the wheel+tire diameters the same using a tire calculator and you will be fine to go as wide or as narrow as you want.
Last edited by ghh429; 09-14-2011 at 04:44 PM.
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Really that's dope I knew there was some play but not much. The ones I saw are 19 by 8.5 and 19 by 9.5, That extra inch in the rear is what worries me
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Does your '07 come with 8.5 front and 9.5 rear? By '10 came that way, and I upgraded to 20x9 in front and back. Was a little worried at first, but it turned out good..
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They look great, clean, and OEM.
However, the last thing I'd wanna do is diminish ride and harshness and noise quality, and add more weight to the wheels. Just would make me feel like I'm wasting my money on a car like this, personally. Also, IMO the Sport with 18's already sacrifices more smoothness than an E-Class should (although is a pretty great balance, until the roads get super rough).
However, the last thing I'd wanna do is diminish ride and harshness and noise quality, and add more weight to the wheels. Just would make me feel like I'm wasting my money on a car like this, personally. Also, IMO the Sport with 18's already sacrifices more smoothness than an E-Class should (although is a pretty great balance, until the roads get super rough).
Updating side markers and tinting, is pleasing to the eye, but will never make the vehicle truly differ from stock IMO.
But justifying your decision to not change your wheels, by constantly commenting about ride harshness and noise quality on various threads, makes you look just a bit full of yourself. From you KA, there is never a straight forward, "looks good" comment a thread, because there always has to be a contradiction after it....just saying.
But to the OP.....I think it looks great!
And i'm sure you knew what you were going to sacrifice when you installed them.
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Personally i think that wheels are the biggest update on a vehicle. I mean every E-class that i see on the road looks the same to me. I feel that i can never truly change or complete the overall "look" of my vehicle until I install new wheels.
Updating side markers and tinting, is pleasing to the eye, but will never make the vehicle truly differ from stock IMO.
But justifying your decision to not change your wheels, by constantly commenting about ride harshness and noise quality on various threads, makes you look just a bit full of yourself. From you KA, there is never a straight forward, "looks good" comment a thread, because there always has to be a contradiction after it....just saying.
But to the OP.....I think it looks great!
And i'm sure you knew what you were going to sacrifice when you installed them.
Updating side markers and tinting, is pleasing to the eye, but will never make the vehicle truly differ from stock IMO.
But justifying your decision to not change your wheels, by constantly commenting about ride harshness and noise quality on various threads, makes you look just a bit full of yourself. From you KA, there is never a straight forward, "looks good" comment a thread, because there always has to be a contradiction after it....just saying.
But to the OP.....I think it looks great!
And i'm sure you knew what you were going to sacrifice when you installed them.
Regarding KA- He does has some great posts, but most IMHO lean towards some form of negativity or BS.
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Personally i think that wheels are the biggest update on a vehicle. I mean every E-class that i see on the road looks the same to me. I feel that i can never truly change or complete the overall "look" of my vehicle until I install new wheels.
Updating side markers and tinting, is pleasing to the eye, but will never make the vehicle truly differ from stock IMO.
But justifying your decision to not change your wheels, by constantly commenting about ride harshness and noise quality on various threads, makes you look just a bit full of yourself. From you KA, there is never a straight forward, "looks good" comment a thread, because there always has to be a contradiction after it....just saying.
But to the OP.....I think it looks great!
And i'm sure you knew what you were going to sacrifice when you installed them.
Updating side markers and tinting, is pleasing to the eye, but will never make the vehicle truly differ from stock IMO.
But justifying your decision to not change your wheels, by constantly commenting about ride harshness and noise quality on various threads, makes you look just a bit full of yourself. From you KA, there is never a straight forward, "looks good" comment a thread, because there always has to be a contradiction after it....just saying.
But to the OP.....I think it looks great!
And i'm sure you knew what you were going to sacrifice when you installed them.
And I'd think you had a point on your last statement if you weren't oblivious to the fact that the O/P pointed out the negative impact to the cars ride with said wheels, and my comment on that. Not all aftermarket wheels will alter a cars ride negatively, but I guess as a car enthusiast it "pains" me to hear about someone screwing with such a well engineered and balanced ride for the sake of functionally-regressive wheels, not to mention I don't get the purpose of getting an E-Class if comfort isn't goal #1. It's not my car though, so all they are, are comments or observations. To each their own.
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Personally i think that wheels are the biggest update on a vehicle. I mean every E-class that i see on the road looks the same to me. I feel that i can never truly change or complete the overall "look" of my vehicle until I install new wheels.
Updating side markers and tinting, is pleasing to the eye, but will never make the vehicle truly differ from stock IMO.
But justifying your decision to not change your wheels, by constantly commenting about ride harshness and noise quality on various threads, makes you look just a bit full of yourself. From you KA, there is never a straight forward, "looks good" comment a thread, because there always has to be a contradiction after it....just saying.
But to the OP.....I think it looks great!
And i'm sure you knew what you were going to sacrifice when you installed them.
Updating side markers and tinting, is pleasing to the eye, but will never make the vehicle truly differ from stock IMO.
But justifying your decision to not change your wheels, by constantly commenting about ride harshness and noise quality on various threads, makes you look just a bit full of yourself. From you KA, there is never a straight forward, "looks good" comment a thread, because there always has to be a contradiction after it....just saying.
But to the OP.....I think it looks great!
And i'm sure you knew what you were going to sacrifice when you installed them.
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Dude, you have BENTLEY wheels on a Benz! Are you seriously surprised at someone making a talking point out of that? Only difference between me and 90% of this Board is that I spoke up.
That's what these Boards are for. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. My car got plenty of "nays" in my Threads on my car and I didn't get bent about it.
Again, respectful criticism or "jabs" vs disrespectful trolling. Big difference.
I know for a fact, due to the handfuls of people who's advice I gave to in choosing their very cars or equipment on said cars gives me more "positivity points" than any of the Newbs here coming at me for critiquing their cars looks.
That's what these Boards are for. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. My car got plenty of "nays" in my Threads on my car and I didn't get bent about it.
Again, respectful criticism or "jabs" vs disrespectful trolling. Big difference.
I know for a fact, due to the handfuls of people who's advice I gave to in choosing their very cars or equipment on said cars gives me more "positivity points" than any of the Newbs here coming at me for critiquing their cars looks.
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Also, the cheap vinyl wrap on my roof is very well a rationale criticism. However, it's not relative to Bentley wheels (with "B" emblems to top it) on an E-Class. If I chopped the roof off of a Continental GT, put a "B" logo on it, cut the roof off of my E, and fabricated the Bentley roof on the Benz, then you can compare the general idea to your wheels mod.
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Putting wheels from other cars hAs been done for years it's not new more does it mean they want that car the wheels came from. And what makes you think a bentley is a pos compared to a Benz. Either way those wheels are high quality wheels that are multipeace forged wheels valued at 9000, but that's not the point. If u never saw the B on them you prob wouldn't have even known. Im not upset at all dude please believe when I say it, I just think your cards should be pulled from time to time and I'm pulling it. And I also have cars that have been in mags over 6 times with over 15 awards from European shows that's alot more then someone on threads saying to you nice advise bro so my taste is pretty good As well
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Fair enough. Just realize that you guys' taking this "personal" by bickering over my not bowing to certain wheels or the lacking functionality of them (when it's partly a subject of a Thread) has massively de-railed and ruined O/P's Thread.
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So here's my opinion. Rims on a car are like features on a woman's face. Some look good naturally while others look good with cosmetic surgery. And it works the other way around too. It's whatever you want.
Putting wheels from other cars hAs been done for years it's not new more does it mean they want that car the wheels came from. And what makes you think a bentley is a pos compared to a Benz. Either way those wheels are high quality wheels that are multipeace forged wheels valued at 9000, but that's not the point. If u never saw the B on them you prob wouldn't have even known. Im not upset at all dude please believe when I say it, I just think your cards should be pulled from time to time and I'm pulling it. And I also have cars that have been in mags over 6 times with over 15 awards from European shows that's alot more then someone on threads saying to you nice advise bro so my taste is pretty good As well
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looks very nice & clean, though with the white car maybe greyish wheels would offset it better but im sure the break dust will help with that. hehe
KA ur posts are informational, especially with the vehicle test drives and comparisons, i enjoyed reading those. But on these wheel pages i've been reading you're just starting to sound like a broken record. so i'm just gonna say this with all due respect, "WE GET IT!"
KA ur posts are informational, especially with the vehicle test drives and comparisons, i enjoyed reading those. But on these wheel pages i've been reading you're just starting to sound like a broken record. so i'm just gonna say this with all due respect, "WE GET IT!"
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