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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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This is my first germen/MB I've owned (W212 E350) so excuse me for being a lil ignorant on the matter but is MB for realz... first I have to pay $230 for Service A's and $340 for Service B's but then, they dont rotate my tires so I have to buy a set of rears. After all that is said n done I find out that there is all kinds of other maintance I should be doing like flush n fill the brake fluid for $150 and then I'm told my brake calbiers and pads are only good for around 30K-40K miles and I'll prob have to take care of that soon to the tune of around $700. Am I crazy or am I gettin raped by MB? Oh well, I should just stop and give MB some more money haha.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jinx420hat
This is my first germen/MB I've owned (W212 E350) so excuse me for being a lil ignorant on the matter but is MB for realz... first I have to pay $230 for Service A's and $340 for Service B's but then, they dont rotate my tires so I have to buy a set of rears. After all that is said n done I find out that there is all kinds of other maintance I should be doing like flush n fill the brake fluid for $150 and then I'm told my brake calbiers and pads are only good for around 30K-40K miles and I'll prob have to take care of that soon to the tune of around $700. Am I crazy or am I gettin raped by MB? Oh well, I should just stop and give MB some more money haha.
All their service can be done at any local shop, which knows German cars and it cost twice less...the same like pads and rotors. BTW - you need to change brakes on any car you own.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:43 PM
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This is my first germen/MB I've owned (W212 E350) so excuse me for being a lil ignorant on the matter but is MB for realz... first I have to pay $230 for Service A's and $340 for Service B's but then, they dont rotate my tires so I have to buy a set of rears. After all that is said n done I find out that there is all kinds of other maintance I should be doing like flush n fill the brake fluid for $150 and then I'm told my brake calbiers and pads are only good for around 30K-40K miles and I'll prob have to take care of that soon to the tune of around $700. Am I crazy or am I gettin raped by MB? Oh well, I should just stop and give MB some more money haha.
Have you checked the prices of the "prepackaged" services for other cars...Mercedes is high, but not all that much higher. The joke is that Mercedes last so long because if you follow the recommended maintenance you fundamentally rebuild the entire car every 50K miles.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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If you have the sport package with staggered tires, the dealer couldn't rotate them regardless. If you have 4-Matic with 4 same-sized tires, they could.

My dealer pays for Service A as one of their standard benefits for customers who purchase through them.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:51 PM
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it's time for homework and self reliance....and also the BOARDS! lol.....
don't beat yourself up about the cost thus far, just use it as a learning tool for the future....
always check and double check and never take anyone's word for it.....especially at the dealer, lol, their reputation proceeds them......

good luck! keep enjoying the car!
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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I had my Service A done to my 2010 E for "just" $150. If you live in an area with lots of M-B Dealers especially, always check around to see who's offering Coupons/Discounts, etc. Also, Independent Shops will be half the cost of Dealers at least.

If you can do it for under $200, then if you think about it, it's not a terrible deal. I used to pay $60 for a Jiffy Lube job on my old cars when I used Mobile 1 Synthetic, and those were cars that were apparently supposed to go just 3-5K Miles between changes.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jinx420hat
This is my first germen/MB I've owned (W212 E350) so excuse me for being a lil ignorant on the matter but is MB for realz... first I have to pay $230 for Service A's and $340 for Service B's but then, they dont rotate my tires so I have to buy a set of rears. After all that is said n done I find out that there is all kinds of other maintance I should be doing like flush n fill the brake fluid for $150 and then I'm told my brake calbiers and pads are only good for around 30K-40K miles and I'll prob have to take care of that soon to the tune of around $700. Am I crazy or am I gettin raped by MB? Oh well, I should just stop and give MB some more money haha.
I must be showing my age. The education system has completely failed our younger generation.
What is more amazing is that people are graduating from university with this caliber of writing.
Personally, I would skip the maintenance on the MB and invest the money on remedial help.

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Originally Posted by petee1997
I must be showing my age. The education system has completely failed our younger generation.
What is more amazing is that people are graduating from university with this caliber of writing.
Personally, I would skip the maintenance on the MB and invest the money on remedial help.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by petee1997
I must be showing my age. The education system has completely failed our younger generation.
What is more amazing is that people are graduating from university with this caliber of writing.
Personally, I would skip the maintenance on the MB and invest the money on remedial help.
I agree! What the heck is going one here? It hurt to read that post. Maybe the "420" in his user name is a clue?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by petee1997
I must be showing my age. The education system has completely failed our younger generation.
What is more amazing is that people are graduating from university with this caliber of writing.
Personally, I would skip the maintenance on the MB and invest the money on remedial help.
+1 on this, there was another post in the ML forum just as poor if not worse, I thought I was getting old and reading on a computer screen was getting more difficult, squinting, trying to read and comprehend at the same time, turns out, it was just moron writing...
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:05 PM
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I generally ignore posts that appear to be written by a 12 year old that is texting one of his buddies. They usually don't accept the advice anyway and get all miffed if you mentiontheir lack of education.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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Wow, I wrote on a blog, which as far as I know is a very informal version of communication. Yet I was inappropriately judged for my desire to maintain that level of informal communication? I think all of you "older" individuals might what to learn some respect for others. Furthermore, if you think there’s a problem with the "youth" you might want to look to yourselves for the answer to that problem because we are only a product of our upbringing and the level of respect that adults, much like all of you, show to others. Moreover, I may be younger than most of you but I own the things I do by making incredible sacrifices for my country with multiple combat tours to Iraq and Afghanistan... what do yall do? So if all of you "older" individuals that spend their time on a virtual boards, trolling around for posts to mock others are done with your childish comments, I would like to get back to the topic at hand. I’ve done my maintenance on all of my previous vehicles but they were all American. Are there any significant differences? My SA told me that the rotors can’t be turned and must be replaced once it’s time to service the brakes. I haven’t been told its time yet but the rotors are developing groves that concern me. Lastly, should I have any apprehensions when using other shops or myself vs authorized dealers when it comes to the warranty?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:20 PM
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Oh and golfster I have a lux edition, so thats a negative on the staggered wheels explination... just crappy service.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jinx420hat
Moreover, I may be younger than most of you but I own the things I do by making incredible sacrifices for my country with multiple combat tours to Iraq and Afghanistan... what do yall do?
Thank you for your service to our country.

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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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Thanks Don!
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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.....but I own the things I do by making incredible sacrifices for my country with multiple combat tours to Iraq and Afghanistan... what do yall do? ...
Been there, done that, but I don't call it an "incredible sacrifice" - I call it doing my duty - and I continue to do that as a civilian.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 11:50 PM
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CEB... I'm glad you've "been there, done that" but your nonchalant attitude makes me think that your "duty" didn’t involve much combat or things I would refer to as sacrifices like missing my children's births, years of their lives or having to remember friends instead of being able to see them whenever I want... Once again I digress; apparently your mother didn’t teach you if you don’t have something nice to say don’t say anything at all. For all the rest of you that may feel the urge to respond to my posts because I may have hurt your ego's, you can’t stand my username or you just hate anyone whose younger than you, do yourselves a favor and don’t because I posted here to gain knowledge, not to waste the time of everyone involved.
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CEB... I'm glad you've "been there, done that" but your nonchalant attitude makes me think that your "duty" didn’t involve much combat or things I would refer to as sacrifices like missing my children's births, years of their lives or having to remember friends instead of being able to see them whenever I want... Once again I digress; apparently your mother didn’t teach you if you don’t have something nice to say don’t say anything at all. For all the rest of you that may feel the urge to respond to my posts because I may have hurt your ego's, you can’t stand my username or you just hate anyone whose younger than you, do yourselves a favor and don’t because I posted here to gain knowledge, not to waste the time of everyone involved.
I'm glad that you finally started posting in English.

Just as an aside, I volunteered for a holiday assignment last year and spent from October to Feb there so that some other guy could spend their holidays with their kids. Others may call your service an incredible sacrifice but I find it offensive that you do - as would everyone else who has been there, done that. Oh, and yeah, I got shot at too.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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I'm glad that you finally started posting in English. Just as an aside
You really refuse to learn, even when being hypocritical on being able to write English correctly. I assure you I'm very educated and “on a side note” (which is the correct way of writing the cliché you miserably attempted to use) I know plenty of individuals that don’t do this on the weekends that call it "incredible sacrifices" but if that is your biggest concern with my entire argument I previously posed… I redact my previous statement about being in the military as being an "incredible sacrifice" to please CEB's tiny ego that obviously requires tiny victories in order to feel accomplished in life.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 12:39 AM
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Now can I please get some advice on the questions I asked or should I just go on spending my money on MB service?
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 04:51 AM
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I think it's time to move on and just answer the guys questions, this has gotten a bit ridiculous.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jinx420hat
You really refuse to learn, even when being hypocritical on being able to write English correctly. I assure you I'm very educated and “on a side note” (which is the correct way of writing the cliché you miserably attempted to use) I know plenty of individuals that don’t do this on the weekends that call it "incredible sacrifices" but if that is your biggest concern with my entire argument I previously posed… I redact my previous statement about being in the military as being an "incredible sacrifice" to please CEB's tiny ego that obviously requires tiny victories in order to feel accomplished in life.
Let me see if I can get this back on track without stooping to the OP's level of childish and petty personal insults.

All cars require periodic maintenance and time (brake fluid) or wear based (brakes) upkeep that are outside of the routine oil changes.

These services can be done at the dealer, an indy shop or by the owners themselves. The owner should keep careful records of work done to preserve the warranty. If done by the owner or an indy shop, records and receipts for parts used should be kept.

The majority of scheduled services should include a tire rotation on cars with non-staggered tires. If the dealer did not do those services then they should be held accountable.

The OP could have bought a maintenance contract with his car but the costs seem somewhat high.

Although some services require special or uncommon tools, dealers will almost always be more expensive because they have to pay for their shiny showrooms and free coffee.

The OP shouldn't need new brakes at 30k miles. If they are worn then he may need to re-evaluate his driving style.

European cars come with lots of over-engineered features and corresponding high priced maintenance requirements. However, as another poster pointed out, the costs are offset by the extended service requirements.

Find a decent indy shop. They'll be able to reduce your costs and often work harder at keeping you as a loyal customer.

"On a side note"

http://www.englishforums.com/English...mwmgw/post.htm

http://www.goenglish.com/Idioms/As+An+Aside.asp

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BTW...you don't need to change rotors every time you change pads. Usually front rotors last about 50K miles and rear about 70K.
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If you lease your car, the owner of the car (Mercedes Finance) can require you to have the car serviced at a Mercedes dealer..which they apparently do.

If you own the car, then a manufacurer can not require you to use a specific service facility....they can require that you follow the maintenance they require to maintain your warranty....but you can have the car serviced whereever you want, or do it yourself. If you have a problem that should be covered under warranty, you need to be able to show that you followed the required service related to whatever failed. Certainly you would want to have receipts that show you changed fluids and what was used. It's a little more problematic with the maintenance items that say "inspect".

OK...so those are the "rules". In actual fact, you often get better service for less money using an independent service place. I would avoid the $19.95 oil and lube shops...or a general independent service facility. I'd find a Mercedes service specialist who has the right tools and knowledge, if I were having a purchased car serviced.

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All the maintenance we get done to our cars should be done to any other vehicle. It will all pay off in the long run.
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