Hold function?
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Hold function?
I recently started to use the hold function at stoplights, but im a little paranoid that it will disengage if im rear-ended and ill possibly lunge into oncoming traffic. Not that any of us want to put this to the test, but does anyone now if it is as secure as holding down on the brake?
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It is designed to go into Park I believe, in the even that it is disengaged for any other reason than by hitting the gas, or pressing the brake hard, again. In that case, it would actually make it probably a safer bet than holding the brake down with your foot.
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Don't know how strong a braking, though.
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I've always wondered what would happen with
the hold on, if you got romped from behind......
so it would stay engaged? seems like it would or why have it? aside from
the nice rest for the foot......
I also recall reading somewhere that the hold could put extra, un-needed
stress on the calipers or pads? or am I nuts?
the hold on, if you got romped from behind......
so it would stay engaged? seems like it would or why have it? aside from
the nice rest for the foot......
I also recall reading somewhere that the hold could put extra, un-needed
stress on the calipers or pads? or am I nuts?
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Braking effect cancels, and HOLD function deactivates when you depress the accelerator pedal to pull away. This implies it will not disengage if hit from behind. But if feature senses skidding, it will automatically deactivate triggering warning tone and display message.
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When you get hit from behind, eg 45mph by a dodge ram pickup, your foot does not stay on the brake pedal; no way -- your leg is catapulted back and you'll have a bruise on your calf the next day from it hitting that compartment latch on the bottom of the seats.
Your car does go through the intersection.
The seatbelts clamp down on you like a strong wrestlers bear hug.
Your head gets jolted from the neck pro headrest popping forward.
The emergency flashers automatically go on. You unlatch the seatbelt's chokehold in order to breathe.
In 15 sec a voice comes through your car speakers stating 'deployment of MB SRS devices was detected. We have your location, do you require police and and ambulance?' You say 'yes'.
You stagger from you car, shaken, but uninjured.
In two minutes your wife calls you from work and says he water broke. Later that night you become a dad. And, you're glad you bought a Mercedes.
That was a hell of a day -- the memory of it still shakes me up.
To answer the question, both you and HOLD will disengage the brake in a rear impact, but given how hard HOLD clamps on the brakes and its delay in disengaging, it will likely hold you in place better than your foot.
Your car does go through the intersection.
The seatbelts clamp down on you like a strong wrestlers bear hug.
Your head gets jolted from the neck pro headrest popping forward.
The emergency flashers automatically go on. You unlatch the seatbelt's chokehold in order to breathe.
In 15 sec a voice comes through your car speakers stating 'deployment of MB SRS devices was detected. We have your location, do you require police and and ambulance?' You say 'yes'.
You stagger from you car, shaken, but uninjured.
In two minutes your wife calls you from work and says he water broke. Later that night you become a dad. And, you're glad you bought a Mercedes.
That was a hell of a day -- the memory of it still shakes me up.
To answer the question, both you and HOLD will disengage the brake in a rear impact, but given how hard HOLD clamps on the brakes and its delay in disengaging, it will likely hold you in place better than your foot.
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In a mild rear end collision, your foot will not be able to keep the brake depressed. a 10mph impact makes your 10lb head weigh roughly 170lbs in just 60 milliseconds. The average human leg weighs about 20lbs so in a 10mph impact, your leg alone is experiencing the same 15-20g's as your head. This means that your leg weighs about 340lbs!!!!
That is a worst case scenario. There are tons of mechanical variables. But you get the idea.
In a mild rear end collision, your foot will not be able to keep the brake depressed. a 10mph impact makes your 10lb head weigh roughly 170lbs in just 60 milliseconds. The average human leg weighs about 20lbs so in a 10mph impact, your leg alone is experiencing the same 15-20g's as your head. This means that your leg weighs about 340lbs!!!!
That is a worst case scenario. There are tons of mechanical variables. But you get the idea.
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I recently started to use the hold function at stoplights, but im a little paranoid that it will disengage if im rear-ended and ill possibly lunge into oncoming traffic. Not that any of us want to put this to the test, but does anyone now if it is as secure as holding down on the brake?
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You want it to disengage in the event of a rear-end collision. By having the brakes disengage the car behind you will push you forward thereby dissipating some of the energy of the crash. By your car offering less resistance of being pushed the less violent the crash will feel on the inside and the better your chances of surviving. Once your car is being pushed from behind it is a different story where you are being pushing (into traffic or the car in front of yours).
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When you get hit from behind, eg 45mph by a dodge ram pickup, your foot does not stay on the brake pedal; no way -- your leg is catapulted back and you'll have a bruise on your calf the next day from it hitting that compartment latch on the bottom of the seats.
Your car does go through the intersection.
The seatbelts clamp down on you like a strong wrestlers bear hug.
Your head gets jolted from the neck pro headrest popping forward.
The emergency flashers automatically go on. You unlatch the seatbelt's chokehold in order to breathe.
In 15 sec a voice comes through your car speakers stating 'deployment of MB SRS devices was detected. We have your location, do you require police and and ambulance?' You say 'yes'.
You stagger from you car, shaken, but uninjured.
In two minutes your wife calls you from work and says he water broke. Later that night you become a dad. And, you're glad you bought a Mercedes.
That was a hell of a day -- the memory of it still shakes me up.
To answer the question, both you and HOLD will disengage the brake in a rear impact, but given how hard HOLD clamps on the brakes and its delay in disengaging, it will likely hold you in place better than your foot.
Your car does go through the intersection.
The seatbelts clamp down on you like a strong wrestlers bear hug.
Your head gets jolted from the neck pro headrest popping forward.
The emergency flashers automatically go on. You unlatch the seatbelt's chokehold in order to breathe.
In 15 sec a voice comes through your car speakers stating 'deployment of MB SRS devices was detected. We have your location, do you require police and and ambulance?' You say 'yes'.
You stagger from you car, shaken, but uninjured.
In two minutes your wife calls you from work and says he water broke. Later that night you become a dad. And, you're glad you bought a Mercedes.
That was a hell of a day -- the memory of it still shakes me up.
To answer the question, both you and HOLD will disengage the brake in a rear impact, but given how hard HOLD clamps on the brakes and its delay in disengaging, it will likely hold you in place better than your foot.
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I wonder if I understood this view correctly. If the car is steady, held with the Hold function, the car would likely suffer more from the rear end hit if Hold keeps brakes on but anything that keeps the car accelerating less from the rear hit, would reduce stress for the passengers. I believe most often the passenger safety comes before the car damage concerns.
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You are nuts Seriously; it doesn't put extra stress on the calipers/pads. If you have the hold function activated it is like you pressing the break pedal. Up to a certain point the more you press down on the pedal the more firmly the calipers grip. After a certain point the calipers are gripping at a 100% so it is irrelevant if you keep on pressing the pedal harder, the calipers can not grip any stronger. When standing at a red light you can hold the break pedal as you would normally with one foot and the calipers are gripping at 100%. You could also stand on it with both feet and the calipers would still only grip with 100% (like if you would do with one foot only).
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Forgive my ignorance(and for you know-it-alls who love to tell people to read their manual) Whats the deal with the hold function,,,and is it in all the w212 chassis?
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And if you want to become a know-it-all also
http://www4.mercedes-benz.com/manual...97e38685.shtml
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Ok so there I was tapping the brakes at a lite...the hold didnt engage(prolly not doing it right)but the nummy nuts next to me thought it was time to race
I assume you must be fully stopped?Do you need to use two feet?
I assume you must be fully stopped?Do you need to use two feet?
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Yes...u need to be fully stopped (but not fully depressing the brake pedal to the ground....just enough to stop the car from rolling)....then do a quick stomp of the brake pedal to the floor...the HOLD should light up on your display console...then let go the brake pedal. Press the gas to dis-engage the HOLD.
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Ok...got it...works like a charm thanks so much...this will be quite useful when stopped on a grade. Another "hmmm" moment for sure.
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Is this to mean that what you've described actually *happened* to you? If so,exactly what were you driving and how was it equipped? I have mbrace and Distronic Plus and have been curious about what,if anything,they'd actually do (real world) in a serious accident.