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Being FLUSH is hard
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Being FLUSH is hard
Hey guys, im thinking of getting some wheels. I want to be flush with the fenders without any fender modification.
What are your staggered sizes and net offsets (with or without spacers) ? Post pics please.
Thanks in advance.
Pete
What are your staggered sizes and net offsets (with or without spacers) ? Post pics please.
Thanks in advance.
Pete
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I don't know if you consider this flush but this is the only picture I got right now with my car. Fronts are 20x8.5 and rear is 20x10. Lowered on coilovers (rear at lowest setting with full system in trunk). Rear sits perfectly with no rolling of the fenders or any other modification. Only thing I did was get stretched tires for front and rear.
I added a 10MM spacer to the front just to clear my amg brakes so it slightly rubs when I turn into a dip. Unfortunately I bought these rims used so offsets are unknown with a 2-3 degree camber on front and rear
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Nice...thats a great fit.
Aren't the offsets usually stamped onto the back side of the wheel face? Or some wheel manuafacturers have a label.
Thanks for posting.
Pete
Aren't the offsets usually stamped onto the back side of the wheel face? Or some wheel manuafacturers have a label.
Thanks for posting.
Pete
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To be flush (or close to it) you need:
front - 30-33mm offsets for 8.5" wide wheels (regardless of diameter); if you use stock wheels (18x8.5 et48) adding 15mm spacers will get you to et33;
rear - 37-40mm offsets for 9.5" wide wheels (regardless of diameter) or 43-46mm for 10" wide; if you use stock wheels (18x9 et54) adding 20mm spacers will get you to et34, which is the same as et40 for 9.5" wide wheel.
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While it was discussed in great detail before, here's a short summary:
To be flush (or close to it) you need:
front - 30-33mm offsets for 8.5" wide wheels (regardless of diameter); if you use stock wheels (18x8.5 et48) adding 15mm spacers will get you to et33;
rear - 37-40mm offsets for 9.5" wide wheels (regardless of diameter) or 43-46mm for 10" wide; if you use stock wheels (18x9 et54) adding 20mm spacers will get you to et34, which is the same as et40 for 9.5" wide wheel.
To be flush (or close to it) you need:
front - 30-33mm offsets for 8.5" wide wheels (regardless of diameter); if you use stock wheels (18x8.5 et48) adding 15mm spacers will get you to et33;
rear - 37-40mm offsets for 9.5" wide wheels (regardless of diameter) or 43-46mm for 10" wide; if you use stock wheels (18x9 et54) adding 20mm spacers will get you to et34, which is the same as et40 for 9.5" wide wheel.
So 20x9 et34 and 20x10 et44 should be flush then.
Btw...anyone running 20s on oem stock suspension? how does that look?
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f: 20x9 +40 / 245 30 20s - slight rub if entering a deep dip at certain angle (rare). no fender mods.
r: 20x10 +42 / 285 25 20s - no rubbing at all. no fender mods.
car is lowered. the +40 in front on a 9 is extremely flush. backs have 1 or 2 mm wiggle room depending on tire size. i would not be able to run a 295s without rubbing.
r: 20x10 +42 / 285 25 20s - no rubbing at all. no fender mods.
car is lowered. the +40 in front on a 9 is extremely flush. backs have 1 or 2 mm wiggle room depending on tire size. i would not be able to run a 295s without rubbing.
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f: 20x9 +40 / 245 30 20s - slight rub if entering a deep dip at certain angle (rare). no fender mods.
r: 20x10 +42 / 285 25 20s - no rubbing at all. no fender mods.
car is lowered. the +40 in front on a 9 is extremely flush. backs have 1 or 2 mm wiggle room depending on tire size. i would not be able to run a 295s without rubbing.
r: 20x10 +42 / 285 25 20s - no rubbing at all. no fender mods.
car is lowered. the +40 in front on a 9 is extremely flush. backs have 1 or 2 mm wiggle room depending on tire size. i would not be able to run a 295s without rubbing.
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Not sure where the rub is. It's a rare occurance and the rub is slight. There's a protrusion at the inner seam between fender and front bumper that might be causing it. I think you're looking at a little less than a 1/4" difference between 34 and 40, but it sounds like you want to be flush with fender as opposed to outside of the fender line. You can always throw a spacer in if you want to adjust "out". not much you can do if you want to adjust "in". Using my setup as reference for your planned setup (20x9 et34, 20x10 et44), you'd be wider in the front by 6mm (aggressive) and narrower in the rear by a couple of mm (conservative). Hope the reference helps.
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Any one else have aftermarket setups? 19 or 20.. post your specs! Wheel/tire/offset.. This can be very helpful for anyone looking to get an aftermarket setup this coming spring, thank you
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I'm getting on a 20" bandwagon too - will run them for 6-7 months a year during a "dry" season only (FL).
Am getting 20x8.5 et32 with 235/35-20 tire - will be close to 100% flush upfront; and 20x9.5 et43 with 265/30-20 tire - once mounted will see how it looks at the rear (I know I need et37-38 with 265 to be flush, but 5mm spacer can not be used, so may try 10mm spacers).
Current setup, 19x8.5 et38 with 255/35-19 and 19x9.5 et43 with 285/30-19 are both flush front(almost, could use a 3mm spacer) and rear.
Am getting 20x8.5 et32 with 235/35-20 tire - will be close to 100% flush upfront; and 20x9.5 et43 with 265/30-20 tire - once mounted will see how it looks at the rear (I know I need et37-38 with 265 to be flush, but 5mm spacer can not be used, so may try 10mm spacers).
Current setup, 19x8.5 et38 with 255/35-19 and 19x9.5 et43 with 285/30-19 are both flush front(almost, could use a 3mm spacer) and rear.
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Sounds good! Only thing id say is if you go with the 9.5 rear at 43et then do a 10 mm spacer you might want to stretch that tire to a 255 to avoid rubbing. But than you will be lowering your overall radius witch is alread lower than your front.. I plan on doing 20x8.5 at 35et with 235/35 and 20x10 at 42 with 275/30.. Overall radius is higher than stock, but i rather be higher than lower.. also with this setup im having a hard time finding tires in this size that match front and rear.. was debating going with 19's and playing it safe.
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There is only one 235/265 readily available @TTR:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...earDiameter=20
but at $1,700+?
I went with now discontinued and very hard to find General Exclaim UHP (for the money great tires, but not for winter - used them on many different cars) - about $530 shipped: rears are available at sears.com ($115ea) very few left, fronts - at simpletire.com($125). Also available on ebay (very limited), but for more $$$.
235/275 are more readily available, including TTR (Kumho STP, e.g.). You can always do front/rear pairs matching.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...earDiameter=20
but at $1,700+?
I went with now discontinued and very hard to find General Exclaim UHP (for the money great tires, but not for winter - used them on many different cars) - about $530 shipped: rears are available at sears.com ($115ea) very few left, fronts - at simpletire.com($125). Also available on ebay (very limited), but for more $$$.
235/275 are more readily available, including TTR (Kumho STP, e.g.). You can always do front/rear pairs matching.
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http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...dTireSearch.do try these guys, free shipping
WOW nvm i just checked, they dont having matching tires in that size, also checked another site and same thing.. thats a tough size I guess.
If you go up to 275/30 you have two different brands to choose from, im prob going with the Nankang 2 to keep cost down..
http://discounttires.com/list.php?si...earch=tiresize
WOW nvm i just checked, they dont having matching tires in that size, also checked another site and same thing.. thats a tough size I guess.
If you go up to 275/30 you have two different brands to choose from, im prob going with the Nankang 2 to keep cost down..
http://discounttires.com/list.php?si...earch=tiresize
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1. As I've stated above I went with General Exclaim UHP 235/265. A proven tire by me on many cars and by many others on MBs (check TTR reviews).
2. I would never put uknown or less known brand of tires on any car in any size (especially with such a low profile). If I were you, I'd pass on Nankang, and if you're set on 235/275 (ah I see, you must since its a 4matic to keep diameter same/close) then I'd go with Kumho SPTs.
2. I would never put uknown or less known brand of tires on any car in any size (especially with such a low profile). If I were you, I'd pass on Nankang, and if you're set on 235/275 (ah I see, you must since its a 4matic to keep diameter same/close) then I'd go with Kumho SPTs.
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True the Nankang is a no name brand, ive read plenty of reviews but im more interested how they hold up at the 15,000 mile mark. Also i can go with the Nitto tire and save $200 over the Kumho.
