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2012 E550 vs 2011 X5M (Kill story)

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Old 03-24-2012, 11:57 AM
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2012 E550 vs 2011 X5M (Kill story)

One of my customers has an X5M and pulled up beside me last night, wanting to see what my 4.6TT could do (since i keep telling him it's surprisingly quick). We were rolling at 30km/hr (19mph) and i let him do the countdown. We were both in low gear & ready to go.

By 100km/hr (60mph) i was a full car ahead and kept pulling.

I think we were both surprised at the outcome.
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stock? I'm sure a tuned 550 would just devastate the X5/6 M

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Sounds like you had some fun

I think 550s are faster than I thought they would be
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so did your customer trade in his x5m for a w212 ?
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A car beating an SUV? Never!!
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Mercedes has the best traction control and does not affect acceleration whereas most cars need to have it turned off for best acceleration times. 550HP vs 400HP and still the Merc wins. Mercedes makes the best engines in the world!
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Really? Because when I turn traction control off I notice a significant increase in acceleration. How could traction control work if it did NOT reduce acceleration? That is what it does, it reduces acceleration.
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X5/6 M are two cars that make absolutely no sense to me. especially X6M.
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Originally Posted by leapingpoint
X5/6 M are two cars that make absolutely no sense to me. especially X6M.
Same there, namely X6 . I don't get the point of getting one lol
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Really? Because when I turn traction control off I notice a significant increase in acceleration. How could traction control work if it did NOT reduce acceleration? That is what it does, it reduces acceleration.
Does your 550 have 4matic? I get same acceleration times with traction turned on and off on my E550 4matic. My car runs 0-60 in 4.6s when i floor it. Your car might be even faster with the new engine, but I still prefer naturally aspirated over turbos.
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Same there, namely X6 . I don't get the point of getting one lol
Not to mention that the X6 looks like poop run over 8 times.

One of the most tasteless eyesores on the roads, IMO.
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Not to mention that the X6 looks like poop run over 8 times.

One of the most tasteless eyesores on the roads, IMO.
And it goes w/o saying that Clarkson went far that beyond Barbedos to see if it was a good choice lol
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Originally Posted by MCF
Really? Because when I turn traction control off I notice a significant increase in acceleration. How could traction control work if it did NOT reduce acceleration? That is what it does, it reduces acceleration.
That's easy: Optimal traction (thus acceleration) is obtained with certain amount of tire slippage. Too little or too much slippage reduces traction.

Good traction control, stability control, and anti-lock brakes (like MB's) allow some slippage, perhaps close to the optimum. Slam on your brakes or floor your car - you'll hear tire squeal. Traction control does not work by reducing acceleration - it works by reducing excess slippage (but not all slippage). So acceleration CAN be better with TC unless you have a right foot that can keep wheelspin in the optimal range.
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Originally Posted by 02Drunkenup
stock? I'm sure a tuned 550 would just devastate the X5/6 M

Bone stock.

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so did your customer trade in his x5m for a w212 ?
No, he was just coming to see his 2012 ML63 that he ordered for his wife. He has an 09 ML63 & an SL55 as well. He only bought the X5M to support a local business that supports him....he says the X5M is a little quicker than the 09 ML63, but he still doesn't like it as much.

Originally Posted by csquared
Does your 550 have 4matic? I get same acceleration times with traction turned on and off on my E550 4matic. My car runs 0-60 in 4.6s when i floor it. Your car might be even faster with the new engine, but I still prefer naturally aspirated over turbos.
Yes, it's 4Matic. The 2012 is quite a bit quicker than the 2011...i own both. The 4.6TT is closer in power to what my E55AMG was...like, really close! The 4Matic was the clincher for me swapping from my AMG. We deal with 5 months of ice & snow every year.
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Originally Posted by ttoE550
That's easy: Optimal traction (thus acceleration) is obtained with certain amount of tire slippage. Too little or too much slippage reduces traction.

Good traction control, stability control, and anti-lock brakes (like MB's) allow some slippage, perhaps close to the optimum. Slam on your brakes or floor your car - you'll hear tire squeal. Traction control does not work by reducing acceleration - it works by reducing excess slippage (but not all slippage). So acceleration CAN be better with TC unless you have a right foot that can keep wheelspin in the optimal range.

Right on!
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Originally Posted by Busta Riles
Yes, it's 4Matic. The 2012 is quite a bit quicker than the 2011...i own both. The 4.6TT is closer in power to what my E55AMG was...like, really close! The 4Matic was the clincher for me swapping from my AMG. We deal with 5 months of ice & snow every year.
The 2013 E550 will even be faster with the 30HP boost, making it the fastest AWD vehicle you can buy in that price range. BMW will have a hard time selling their 550xi and those X5Ms or X6Ms...
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Originally Posted by csquared
Does your 550 have 4matic? I get same acceleration times with traction turned on and off on my E550 4matic. My car runs 0-60 in 4.6s when i floor it. Your car might be even faster with the new engine, but I still prefer naturally aspirated over turbos.
how are you gauging your 0-60?

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