Love Vs Lust!
#1
Love Vs Lust!
I love Mercedes Benz. Been in love with Mercedes since the beginning of time, all I wanted was a white Mercedes E class, nothing more nothing less, and was just waiting for the day I would get one and live happily ever after...
But then, but then, along comes the Audi A7 with its seductive lines and ravishing looks and it totally messed me up.. I found myself spending more time in the Audi forum than here, suddenly my love for the E was wavering and it was lust for the A7 - the devil had its ways!
I think the 2014 E looks fantastic in person, they look solid and classy, but then, the A7 looks sexy..
I know the E will age well, it just always does, and the A7 will probably look so dated in another 5 years, but the A7 sure looks sooo hot right now..
The E is cheaper than the A7 and will probably hold on to its value more, but really, who’s thinking rational when it comes to A7..
The E should be more reliable long term (I am assuming there’s a reason why Es are preferred by cab drivers in Europe over Audis), but A7 just looks sooooo yummy...
The list goes on and on….
I am no Mr. Money Bags like lot of you guys and don’t just "pick up the car", I only pick up groceries, not cars! So even after some serious serious thinking when all the rational thoughts said buy the E, I ended up buying a A7! Yes, lust won...
So, here I am after more than 5 years of visiting the E forums pretty regularly, posting my first message with a hi and bye at the same time.. The reality is I will have always have a soft corner for the E and I would love to buy a 1995 E320 (my first love!) as a DD, but just not sure if I can afford the maintenance costs of a ~20 year old Merc! One day....
Here’s a picture of my car (2012 A7 Prestige with 20" Sports, Innovation Package, LED Headlights), it’s been raining here so excuse the not so clean car:
I will continue to visit this forum, keep them pictures coming!
Cheers!
SB
But then, but then, along comes the Audi A7 with its seductive lines and ravishing looks and it totally messed me up.. I found myself spending more time in the Audi forum than here, suddenly my love for the E was wavering and it was lust for the A7 - the devil had its ways!
I think the 2014 E looks fantastic in person, they look solid and classy, but then, the A7 looks sexy..
I know the E will age well, it just always does, and the A7 will probably look so dated in another 5 years, but the A7 sure looks sooo hot right now..
The E is cheaper than the A7 and will probably hold on to its value more, but really, who’s thinking rational when it comes to A7..
The E should be more reliable long term (I am assuming there’s a reason why Es are preferred by cab drivers in Europe over Audis), but A7 just looks sooooo yummy...
The list goes on and on….
I am no Mr. Money Bags like lot of you guys and don’t just "pick up the car", I only pick up groceries, not cars! So even after some serious serious thinking when all the rational thoughts said buy the E, I ended up buying a A7! Yes, lust won...
So, here I am after more than 5 years of visiting the E forums pretty regularly, posting my first message with a hi and bye at the same time.. The reality is I will have always have a soft corner for the E and I would love to buy a 1995 E320 (my first love!) as a DD, but just not sure if I can afford the maintenance costs of a ~20 year old Merc! One day....
Here’s a picture of my car (2012 A7 Prestige with 20" Sports, Innovation Package, LED Headlights), it’s been raining here so excuse the not so clean car:
I will continue to visit this forum, keep them pictures coming!
Cheers!
SB
#2
Congrats, the new car looks great. I know exactly how you felt as I've been flip flopping on deciding between the two cars myself; seeing your a7 might push me towards a blue or silver audi in the near future. Now you can go out and enjoy your purchase.
#5
foxrc51: Join the dark side, I am loving it!
BM2BZ: Yup, I have been visiting this forum for the longest time (could have sworn it was more than 6 years!), I was on this forum when Nevada Jack bought his W211 E, ok, now I am dating myself..
Cheers!
SB
BM2BZ: Yup, I have been visiting this forum for the longest time (could have sworn it was more than 6 years!), I was on this forum when Nevada Jack bought his W211 E, ok, now I am dating myself..
Cheers!
SB
#7
MBWorld Fanatic!
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,425
Received 98 Likes
on
88 Posts
2002 CLK 55 AMG cabriolet Eurocharged
Nice Ride,
I was after a Audi Avant twin turbo 6cyl or E350 CDI but there kind of rare.
If you do audi forums, autoguide.com has an app for the audi.
I am proud to be in the AMG crowd and will be posting here for some time.
All the Best, Gator
I was after a Audi Avant twin turbo 6cyl or E350 CDI but there kind of rare.
If you do audi forums, autoguide.com has an app for the audi.
I am proud to be in the AMG crowd and will be posting here for some time.
All the Best, Gator
Trending Topics
#8
MBWorld God!
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: on my way
Posts: 30,682
Received 3,412 Likes
on
2,854 Posts
2012 CLS63
bye bye
#10
Out Of Control!!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes
on
18 Posts
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Congrats. I dislike the A7 design but it looks stunning in your picture. I've never loved Audi's, however considering Mercedes' designs seem to be getting worse and worse to me, Audi has started to rise on my totem pole (which is now out of whack from where it used to be due to M-B's changing design idiom).
Interesting that your first post is a goodbye from M-B before you ever said hi, but it makes for good conversation & comparos with other good cars.
Interesting that your first post is a goodbye from M-B before you ever said hi, but it makes for good conversation & comparos with other good cars.
#11
Out Of Control!!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes
on
18 Posts
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Does anyone know where Nevada Jack is? I've tried putting out a "Forum-APB" but can't seem to find if he's okay. I know he was older and apparently kinda sick. It genuinely bums me out to think that something happened to the guy. When I started flipping new M-B's he seemed to think I earned the title of "Young Nevada Jack", which I took as a badge of honor.
#13
And K-A, regarding the MB designs, this is the same thing that happens with every update, everyone says it is terrible and few months later, it is the best design there ever is.. I am ahead of the curve in saying the 2014 E looks fantastic!
#14
#15
MBWorld Fanatic!
I love A7's headlamp design but side profile is not as seducing as CLS 218 does
Happy driving
Happy driving
#16
I'll say hi on the AudiWorld Forum.
I upgraded from a 2011 E350 to a 2013 A7 in November. Over the 2 years I had the E350 I came around to appreciating it for what it was - but I have loved my A7 from day 1.
#17
Out Of Control!!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes
on
18 Posts
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Seconding that, Nevada Jack was very active on the forum and posted tons of great pictures. Seemed to be a nice guy..
And K-A, regarding the MB designs, this is the same thing that happens with every update, everyone says it is terrible and few months later, it is the best design there ever is.. I am ahead of the curve in saying the 2014 E looks fantastic!
And K-A, regarding the MB designs, this is the same thing that happens with every update, everyone says it is terrible and few months later, it is the best design there ever is.. I am ahead of the curve in saying the 2014 E looks fantastic!
I just miss the days when you would see an M-B and it wouldn't try and forcefully challenge you so much, like dropping anti-wedge lines on wedge-shaped profiles, or rounded "organic" parts grafted onto very angular and upright designs, etc. I guess I can call myself "old school" when it comes to Mercedes at a premature age to use that term. Maybe it's that Mercedes was so powerful to me in the past that I treat them unfairly and expect them to uphold maybe an unrealistic dignity and prestige, and when they don't give me it, I get resentful.
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: long island , ny
Posts: 439
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes
on
6 Posts
2016 G63 ; 981 boxster GTS
I played that game where I'd let M-B's branding pull me to rationalize and fall for their designs which were getting iffy to me, but it's gone too far, IMO, and ever since the CLS it got real bad, IMO. It's not about the design aspects as much as the cohesion. One can like the E's new grilles, etc., but fact is the design language is very mashed-up all around the car, the new parts simply don't flow, and IMO "flow" is what Mercedes designers seem to have forgotten. I feel the design team seems too focused on popping-smoke glitzy "parts" and lacking the maturity or talent or management to harmonize a design as a whole.
I just miss the days when you would see an M-B and it wouldn't try and forcefully challenge you so much, like dropping anti-wedge lines on wedge-shaped profiles, or rounded "organic" parts grafted onto very angular and upright designs, etc. I guess I can call myself "old school" when it comes to Mercedes at a premature age to use that term. Maybe it's that Mercedes was so powerful to me in the past that I treat them unfairly and expect them to uphold maybe an unrealistic dignity and prestige, and when they don't give me it, I get resentful.
I just miss the days when you would see an M-B and it wouldn't try and forcefully challenge you so much, like dropping anti-wedge lines on wedge-shaped profiles, or rounded "organic" parts grafted onto very angular and upright designs, etc. I guess I can call myself "old school" when it comes to Mercedes at a premature age to use that term. Maybe it's that Mercedes was so powerful to me in the past that I treat them unfairly and expect them to uphold maybe an unrealistic dignity and prestige, and when they don't give me it, I get resentful.
Been browsing the w212 forum as I consider maybe a new ride.
I've had several each of mb Audi BMW for over 20 yrs.
After most of the 90s in a BMW e34 I leased a w202
And then bought a nice w210 e430 4m and was firmly in the Benz camp.
I regrettably traded into an early w211 , didn't dig the whole scene, and
been in a few audis since, having become a serial flipper these last 10 yrs lol.
On my second Audi D3 and admire the cars greatly but trying to give mb
a good look and can't help but feel they lost a lot of their mojo in this time.
K-A your review of the 14 FL said it all. They have a little momentum in styling and now seem to be watering it down again.
#19
MBWorld Fanatic!
I played that game where I'd let M-B's branding pull me to rationalize and fall for their designs which were getting iffy to me, but it's gone too far, IMO, and ever since the CLS it got real bad, IMO. It's not about the design aspects as much as the cohesion. One can like the E's new grilles, etc., but fact is the design language is very mashed-up all around the car, the new parts simply don't flow, and IMO "flow" is what Mercedes designers seem to have forgotten. I feel the design team seems too focused on popping-smoke glitzy "parts" and lacking the maturity or talent or management to harmonize a design as a whole.
I just miss the days when you would see an M-B and it wouldn't try and forcefully challenge you so much, like dropping anti-wedge lines on wedge-shaped profiles, or rounded "organic" parts grafted onto very angular and upright designs, etc. I guess I can call myself "old school" when it comes to Mercedes at a premature age to use that term. Maybe it's that Mercedes was so powerful to me in the past that I treat them unfairly and expect them to uphold maybe an unrealistic dignity and prestige, and when they don't give me it, I get resentful.
I just miss the days when you would see an M-B and it wouldn't try and forcefully challenge you so much, like dropping anti-wedge lines on wedge-shaped profiles, or rounded "organic" parts grafted onto very angular and upright designs, etc. I guess I can call myself "old school" when it comes to Mercedes at a premature age to use that term. Maybe it's that Mercedes was so powerful to me in the past that I treat them unfairly and expect them to uphold maybe an unrealistic dignity and prestige, and when they don't give me it, I get resentful.
Oh! Did I repeat myself? Isn't that annoying K-A??????
#20
Out Of Control!!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes
on
18 Posts
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Hi good post and I empathize with the OP too.
Been browsing the w212 forum as I consider maybe a new ride.
I've had several each of mb Audi BMW for over 20 yrs.
After most of the 90s in a BMW e34 I leased a w202
And then bought a nice w210 e430 4m and was firmly in the Benz camp.
I regrettably traded into an early w211 , didn't dig the whole scene, and
been in a few audis since, having become a serial flipper these last 10 yrs lol.
On my second Audi D3 and admire the cars greatly but trying to give mb
a good look and can't help but feel they lost a lot of their mojo in this time.
K-A your review of the 14 FL said it all. They have a little momentum in styling and now seem to be watering it down again.
Been browsing the w212 forum as I consider maybe a new ride.
I've had several each of mb Audi BMW for over 20 yrs.
After most of the 90s in a BMW e34 I leased a w202
And then bought a nice w210 e430 4m and was firmly in the Benz camp.
I regrettably traded into an early w211 , didn't dig the whole scene, and
been in a few audis since, having become a serial flipper these last 10 yrs lol.
On my second Audi D3 and admire the cars greatly but trying to give mb
a good look and can't help but feel they lost a lot of their mojo in this time.
K-A your review of the 14 FL said it all. They have a little momentum in styling and now seem to be watering it down again.
If anyone on this board thinks that it's out of line to say on an M-B Forum, then my answer is that this portion of the Forum is based on the W212, which previous to 2014 MY's was still a model I considered to be worthy of M-B design language, even if I did hate it at first. Unfortunately we now see what it was a precursor to, and it all starts to make sense....
#23
Out Of Control!!
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 10,557
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes
on
18 Posts
Porsche Macan S SportDesign / Ex M-B's: 11 & 10 & 06 E350's, 02 S500
Actually, if you look at the W212, F10 and A7, they all have very different ways to express their side lines, which is cool to see. The W212 being the most angular/squared off version with heavily wedged/slanted lines that are very hard/sharp and more "pulled" than bulging. Then you have the F10 which doesn't have a straight/hard surface on it, but has smoother, very bulging/thicker lines that run straight and convex/concave. Then you have the A7 which is much more straightforward, no bulges, and just cascades down and out from the top until it pulls into what becomes the rest of the doors fairly straight/slightly curvy surface, which is why as you you see in the A7's picture, the shadow-play between all 3 cars is very different.
I love car design, I just wish I could draw for a damn so I can mock up my own perfect-designs.
Last edited by K-A; 05-15-2013 at 12:46 AM.
#25
They do in how they have a flow from front to back, but the Audi's actually goes the full length of the car, while the 5ers starts just before the front doors and connects into the taillights. Also, the A7 has a crisp/clean line which doesn't actually protrude out itself, the bottom portion thus being further extended than the upper portion. The 5er on the other hand has a more muscular/bulging line that is rounded off and bulges more in the upper portion, then has lots of convex/concave play throughout the door.
Actually, if you look at the W212, F10 and A7, they all have very different ways to express their side lines, which is cool to see. The W212 being the most angular/squared off version with heavily wedged/slanted lines that are very hard/sharp and more "pulled" than bulging. Then you have the F10 which doesn't have a straight/hard surface on it, but has smoother, very bulging/thicker lines that run straight and convex/concave. Then you have the A7 which is much more straightforward, no bulges, and just cascades down and out from the top until it pulls into what becomes the rest of the doors fairly straight/slightly curvy surface, which is why as you you see in the A7's picture, the shadow-play between all 3 cars is very different.
I love car design, I just wish I could draw for a damn so I can mock up my own perfect-designs.
Actually, if you look at the W212, F10 and A7, they all have very different ways to express their side lines, which is cool to see. The W212 being the most angular/squared off version with heavily wedged/slanted lines that are very hard/sharp and more "pulled" than bulging. Then you have the F10 which doesn't have a straight/hard surface on it, but has smoother, very bulging/thicker lines that run straight and convex/concave. Then you have the A7 which is much more straightforward, no bulges, and just cascades down and out from the top until it pulls into what becomes the rest of the doors fairly straight/slightly curvy surface, which is why as you you see in the A7's picture, the shadow-play between all 3 cars is very different.
I love car design, I just wish I could draw for a damn so I can mock up my own perfect-designs.
Last edited by steelgrey; 05-17-2013 at 12:40 AM.