K-A

That's what I'm saying, Robbie, and I appreciate your comments. The same people who are d*cks now were d*icks when I was just coming here to escape into my E fanaticism. The BMW thing just makes them hate me more. The way I see it is I get egged on, case in point this thread. If people don't like hearing me state BMW's virtues that I've experienced then they should stop making threads with my "name" in it.

E Classy

oh i'm sorry did the noob who defended the ///Marketing not claim that he drives an M5?

K-A

Hahaha, man is your jealousy transparent!

He drives an E60 M5, very different from the F chassis M cars.

E Classy

Man is your troll face transparent. How come you agreed with socale if his comment is irrelevant due to e60 being very different than f10?

K-A

Because it shows BMW's mindset and capabilities when engineering how starkly different their cars will act when in different modes.

hyperion667

E Classy

and to that i submit a great big "nobody cares, BMW (and especially not a on a benz forum) - your engineering mindset is actually a FAIL" per the sentiments from two separate comparo's:

"Judges dinged the M6 for being too heavy and unsettled in corners. Moreover, the car felt numb and isolating, like there was always a barrier between you and the road. Loh described it thus: "The M6 tunes out nearly every chassis response, and then tries to dial it back in to your liking." Ah, but there's a button for that, isn't there? Actually, there are about a hundred of them. The M6 offers a wide range of options for fine-tuning the car's various computers to dial in performance for any given situation. On its face, this seems like a good thing. In practice, you end up fiddling with settings forever. We calculated 125 possible combinations of throttle, suspension, transmission, and other settings. Somewhere around combination 26, you realize that none of them is really making the car much of a better driver's car, and you're just wasting time."

"Even with all its many driver-adjustable settings for steering effort, throttle response, and suspension stiffness, it’s impossible to make the M6 fully at home on winding roads. The steering is duller than the others, and the body wallows and leans more as the mass pushes the suspension around. An overriding sense of isolation meant the clearest feedback we got came from our drivers, complaining that they felt less confident driving hard into corners, unsure if the grip would hold."

on a separate note, KA - the E39 was the best 5er to date; not the F10

K-A

Yeah and basically every non AMG Benz falls in dead last place in about every magazine comparison so using your own logic you're getting the wrong car. Those guys like raw, crude and singularly sporty therefore F chassis M Bimmers inherently designed with capabilities to house Rolls Royce luxury don't speak their language. However do to the real consumer.

And plenty seem to care otherwise I wouldn't get a whole thread dedicated to me with over 200 replies.

And I agree about the E39 however feel the F10 is its soul modernized equivalent especially in overall design.

Socale39

I have to agree with this just because the E39 connected the driver to the road more so than most cars of its time and even today. But lets face it, as more and more technologies are introduced, every car manufacturer will get further away from the old designs that gave us such amazing and direct feedback. Some may look at this as a good thing with regards to better overall handling while other enthusiasts/drivers prefer more of the direct feedback. One of the first steps BMW made in this direction was active roll stabilization which electronically twisted the roll bars to stabilize the car. Porsche is now using electronic steering.....and the list goes on.

If anyone here says the F10 is the best 5-series made, being a BMW enthusiast myself, I simply cannot agree. Personally I think if you took the intoxicating sound and power of the E60 M5 engine, combined with the handling feedback characteristics of the E39 M5 and refinement of the F10......that would truly make a remarkable vehicle.

As a tribute to my old E39 M5 I hope you guys don't mind me sharing a pic

Socale39

Hyperion667,
Please tell me who this lovely lady is.....

instantfob

paging hyperion667 for more pictures

FYI: Also being ex-E60 owner. It was a fine handling car with conventional suspension setup.

brauhaus313

I loved everything about the e39 M5, and yours was quite nice. Why'd you get rid of it? Nice Work wheels too.

hyperion667

Marianna,
check her out here: http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...37854915108310
I've had to run and find privacy a few times because of her

Socale39

At the time I needed a BMW the wife could drive as well. I ended up replacing it with a 545i SMG which then got replaced with the current E60 M5 SMG.

Thank you kind sir. I'm not one for skinny girls and she seems to have just the right amount of meat That backside is just

Tomspo04

check her out here: http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...37854915108310
I've had to run and find privacy a few times because of her .

OnlyGerman

Agreed.. Still a owner.