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Old 10-16-2013, 07:17 PM
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2014 w212 pano vs lighting

Just need a little advice here from the 2014 w212 drivers looking to trade my 2013 sport p1 grey/blk for a white/blk p1 sport .. This is whats available for me to pick a white/blk p1 sport with pano roof or a white/blk sport p1 push start, lane track and lighting package. I can live with out the lane track and push start but lighting I heard was kind of a big deal with the new e class. Unlike before I would say hell with it and just drop a 6k hid kit and call it the day but from what I hear it's led now. I just like the xenon look can I get away with out lighting ? Is it possible to put a kit in it ? Help plz
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Have you seen the new LED visibility in person versus the xenon? It resembles the 6k color and is actually pretty good. It's obviously not the same, I'll try get you some pictures of the non lighting so it can help out.

The new DRL on the lighting package looks really cool though.

I'm not sure if it's possible to put a kit on it. It would need to be a full projector housing kit since a kit with reflectors is pointless.
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Have you seen the new LED visibility in person versus the xenon? It resembles the 6k color and is actually pretty good. It's obviously not the same, I'll try get you some pictures of the non lighting so it can help out.

The new DRL on the lighting package looks really cool though.

I'm not sure if it's possible to put a kit on it. It would need to be a full projector housing kit since a kit with reflectors is pointless.
So I'm fine with the pano roof no lighting I mean is lease so yea it won't be around forever I just don't know if lighting is a must. By the way standard lighting is still LEDs correct ?
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Yep, they are static LED headlamps.

I don't have the lighting package and sleep fine at night :P
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Yep, they are static LED headlamps.

I don't have the lighting package and sleep fine at night :P
Cool I mean pano or lighting I love pano on a white car know what I mean
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Though the pano is nice, especially on white. Out of the two options I would go with the lighting package.
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I had a very similar choice when I purchase my 14 E350. I finally went with the Diamond White with P1, sports & pano roof . For me strictly on the "look" factor, I could not resist the appeal of the pano roof. It makes the car look sportier than the lighting package. Besides the standard headlights are not bad at all. But of course at the end, you choose whatever stirs your emotion. Good luck, either way, you will have a beautiful car.
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I don't know if the lighting package of the new cars does the same as my 2010 does, i.e. Adapts the low beam to the car in front of you, has automatic high/low beam switch, turns with steering wheel input..., but if it does it is far more important than the looks of the pano roof outside the car. And that look can be added with a wrap.
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Why only those two cars to pick from? Expand your search and get what you want. This car is way too expensive to settle.
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^+1, went from 13 E350 white with pano and now will be swapping back to a 14 E350 white with pano. Whatever makes you happy it's still a great car!
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Why only those two cars to pick from? Expand your search and get what you want. This car is way too expensive to settle.
I agree 100%
I don't know why you think that you only have two choices. You can choose any unsold E class in the country. Get a car that has both.
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yes, try to expand your search, but if you not, then I would do the lighting package hands down. U can always having someone vinyl wrap your top gloss black to give it that pano look.
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I have a 2014 Sport with Pano and lighting and for me I would choose the lighting package over the Pano in a second. The lighting package not only makes the cars front end look so much better during the day and at night, the LED lights are a great safety feature too. Most of the time I don't even realize I have the Pano roof...
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The only option I didn't order on my car was the panorama roof. I checked every other tick box... To me it's a no contest, adaptive headlight all the way.
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I have both on my '14 E350.
I could do without the pano, but love the adaptive lights.
Live in country and it's dark at night , the auto high beams are the best .
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I am confused here. I am trying to pick 14 E350, with P2, however dealer told me like no P2 anymore so you need to pick separate options on top of P1. Accordingly a dealer lighting package is Xenon lights, but after reading the post I think it is LED, right? So if I do not get lighting, what will I get? Still Xenon or just halogen lamps? Any light?
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I am confused here. I am trying to pick 14 E350, with P2, however dealer told me like no P2 anymore so you need to pick separate options on top of P1. Accordingly a dealer lighting package is Xenon lights, but after reading the post I think it is LED, right? So if I do not get lighting, what will I get? Still Xenon or just halogen lamps? Any light?
There is no P2, Keyless-Go and Lighting are separate options. The Lighting package includes full LED headlights with adaptive feature and auto high-beam feature. So the $1,500 lighting package gets you:
- LED daytime eyebrows
- LED high beams
- LED blinkers
- Adaptive headlights that move and shape the beam when you are in turns, light the corners when you're in the city at slow speed and make a turn, it dips the beams and makes them wider when you turn the rear fog light on so they operate more like front fogs.
- Auto high beams that dynamically change the distance the light throws based on oncoming traffic and cars in front of you. They don't however shape the light to go around the cars like the Adaptive High Beam PLUS does in Europe.

Without the light package you get LED low beams that are fixed and don't move and reflective halogen high beams.

The keyless-go has two versions, one is with power trunk combination for $990 (389pkg) or the $650 (code 889) one which only included the keyless start/stop and door open/close.
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Originally Posted by Dema
I am confused here. I am trying to pick 14 E350, with P2, however dealer told me like no P2 anymore so you need to pick separate options on top of P1. Accordingly a dealer lighting package is Xenon lights, but after reading the post I think it is LED, right? So if I do not get lighting, what will I get? Still Xenon or just halogen lamps? Any light?
If you do not get the LED lighting package then you still get the standard fixed led lights which are white but are implemented in reflector style and hence dont look as cool. Plus they do not turn in corners.

But these standard LED lights are 1000000x better than the halogen crap they gave as standard in pre face lift.
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Thanks guys for the clarification. In this case I can sacrifice lighting package to something else, since drive mostly in a city where a good elimination is. I found actually Auto High Beam awful in previous version, since you can't turn on high beam permanently, so it makes high beam mostly useless unless you drive on a real country side.
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Maybe I misunderstand, but isn't choosing the high beam to be on permanently as simple as switching the lights to "on" manually and pushing the stalk forward?


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Thanks guys for the clarification. In this case I can sacrifice lighting package to something else, since drive mostly in a city where a good elimination is. I found actually Auto High Beam awful in previous version, since you can't turn on high beam permanently, so it makes high beam mostly useless unless you drive on a real country side.
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Originally Posted by Dema
Thanks guys for the clarification. In this case I can sacrifice lighting package to something else, since drive mostly in a city where a good elimination is. I found actually Auto High Beam awful in previous version, since you can't turn on high beam permanently, so it makes high beam mostly useless unless you drive on a real country side.
1) You can turn it on permanently by disabling the AHBA from the COMMAND system.
2) The new, full LED headlights will extend low beam at as slow as 16mph to reach further, all the way to oncoming traffic and they will turn on high beam as slow as 19 mph vs. the previous system which needed 35 mph to turn on high beam.
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Somehow it wasn't clear in manual that to make high beam permanent I need to disable something in command. Anyway car is going back, so I will just keep the knowledge.
Perhaps I need to drive both cars in dark to make decision toward lightning package.
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Well just turn your light switch to on (very farthest clock-wise) and then push the stalk forward as fintail said.


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