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Old 03-24-2014, 10:41 AM
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Hi, I have now finished 2000 miles with my new car. I vaguely remember the sales person mentioning that I should have the rear differential oil changed at 2000 miles. But the service indicator doesn't show another service till the 10,000 mark. I checked the manual, it says service for AMG 4 Matic at 2000 miles. What's the consensus here? Should I do it or not? If yes Then would it be covered by maintenance plan? Thanks
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Required service for e63 (code 471 on sheet) should be included in plan see service sheet here https://mbworld.org/forums/5977454-post28.html

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But does it matter that my car is a regular 4 Matic , (not an AMG model)....
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only AMGs with the LSD require this change. AMGs without LSD don't. Non AMGs don't need the change either. Fire your salesperson.
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only AMGs with the LSD require this change. AMGs without LSD don't. Non AMGs don't need the change either. Fire your salesperson.
Agreed!! Your saleman need to be re-train!
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I just rechecked with the sales person and he now says no oil change needed till 10,000 miles. But the tires need to be rotated at 5000 miles though. Maybe I misunderstood what he said initially.
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I just rechecked with the sales person and he now says no oil change needed till 10,000 miles. But the tires need to be rotated at 5000 miles though. Maybe I misunderstood what he said initially.
Do a quick walk through to see if you have difference sizes on tires. If you have stagger wheels (front is smaller than the rear), then you can't rotate them!! BTW, where did they get this salesman?
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I just rechecked with the sales person and he now says no oil change needed till 10,000 miles. But the tires need to be rotated at 5000 miles though. Maybe I misunderstood what he said initially.
According to the maintenance manual, you never have to change it. It is for LSD equipped cars only every 40,000 miles.

http://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalA...ce_Booklet.pdf
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I just rechecked with the sales person and he now says no oil change needed till 10,000 miles. But the tires need to be rotated at 5000 miles though. Maybe I misunderstood what he said initially.
Need might be a strong word... I never rotated my tires on any of my AWD cars and they still wore pretty evenly. The cost of rotating (both time and money as well as the risk of breaking something in the process) far outweigh the benefits for most owners. On RWD with staggered wheels you can't rotate them, period.
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As far as I know all my wheels are of the same size. So no tire rotation is needed either. That's fine with me. I also read somewhere in the manual / internet that tire rotation is not mandatory for AWD cars. This is getting funnier. May be my salesperson is having a bad day and he is just making up something to continue the conversation. LOL.

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Need might be a strong word... I never rotated my tires on any of my AWD cars and they still wore pretty evenly. The cost of rotating (both time and money as well as the risk of breaking something in the process) far outweigh the benefits for most owners. On RWD with staggered wheels you can't rotate them, period.
it's a free service, and extends the tire life......
why is a=it a waste of time? it takes about 20 minutes for a good tech to rotate AND rebalance the wheels
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it's a free service, and extends the tire life......
why is a=it a waste of time? it takes about 20 minutes for a good tech to rotate AND rebalance the wheels
First of all it's not free, at least not at every dealer.

Second of all, it takes me 20 minutes to get to the dealer, 20 minutes of rotation, 20 minutes to get back, that's an hour of my time I'll never get back never mind the cost of driving there and back. Same goes with the free carwash my dealer offers for life. It's free as long as you have two hours to sit in the lounge and wait for them to wash your car. I rather just pay $5 down the street on my way home...

Otherwise: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w166...ml#post5539444

Based on my last 3 AWD vehicles which I never rotated tires on I say I will never rotate tires on my cars. It's not worth it even if it's "free".

It's not even part of the mandatory maintenance only the recommended maintenance per MB. And their exact words are:

"A 5,000-mile recommended tire rotation
interval will likely necessitate tire rotation
at least once in between each 10,000-mile
maintenance service and at every 10,000-
mile maintenance service."


Basically it says "if we get them hooked on the absurdity of 5k rotations we can get them to do it even more often and make even more money off of it".

Bottom line: don't do it!
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Originally Posted by GregTR View Post
Bottom line: don't do it!
lol, what?
It is also not "necessary" to eat healthy, exercise, or visit a doctor for regular check-ups. People just do it in an effort to "extend" their expected life.

My argument against tire rotation has always been that I will never pay for it. Any money that I would spend on the rotation I would rather put that towards new tires. I would rather ride on new tires than to extend the amount of time I ride on old tires. I dont go out of my way to get them rotated but I will get them done when offered for free.

So back to my analogy... your "don't do it" statement is just... retar... stu...
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lol, what?
It is also not "necessary" to eat healthy, exercise, or visit a doctor for regular check-ups. People just do it in an effort to "extend" their expected life.

My argument against tire rotation has always been that I will never pay for it. Any money that I would spend on the rotation I would rather put that towards new tires. I would rather ride on new tires than to extend the amount of time I ride on old tires. I dont go out of my way to get them rotated but I will get them done when offered for free.

So back to my analogy... your "don't do it" statement is just... retar... stu...
I guess you missed the entire part about the cost/risk/benefit analysis and only read the conclusion...

Your analogy doesn't stand BTW. The benefit of exercise far outweigh the cost.
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I guess you missed the entire part about the cost/risk/benefit analysis and only read the conclusion...

Your analogy doesn't stand BTW. The benefit of exercise far outweigh the cost.
My analogy is based solely on the word "necessary" and my reply was based solely on your conclusion.
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First of all it's not free, at least not at every dealer.

Second of all, it takes me 20 minutes to get to the dealer, 20 minutes of rotation, 20 minutes to get back, that's an hour of my time I'll never get back never mind the cost of driving there and back. Same goes with the free carwash my dealer offers for life. It's free as long as you have two hours to sit in the lounge and wait for them to wash your car. I rather just pay $5 down the street on my way home...

Otherwise: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w166...ml#post5539444

Based on my last 3 AWD vehicles which I never rotated tires on I say I will never rotate tires on my cars. It's not worth it even if it's "free".

It's not even part of the mandatory maintenance only the recommended maintenance per MB. And their exact words are:

"A 5,000-mile recommended tire rotation
interval will likely necessitate tire rotation
at least once in between each 10,000-mile
maintenance service and at every 10,000-
mile maintenance service."


Basically it says "if we get them hooked on the absurdity of 5k rotations we can get them to do it even more often and make even more money off of it".

Bottom line: don't do it!
all my wheel work is done at discount tire, and yes, they rotate and balance free for life.....I also spend a lot of money there
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If it's free then swap/rotate. I have AWD with non staggered and I will rotate at 6k free via Direct Tire. When you make an appt. ahead of time, you are in and out in 20 mins. Plus I live 4 mins. away from them. No Brainer. The Free Car wash Greg mentions is certainly not worth my time as well. My dealership offers this, and all it does is put you in the showroom for the sales people.

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