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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:35 PM
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Not sure what happened here: Stalled in traffic, wouldn't restart.

It's been quite a day..car towed, stalled in the middle of the street...witness to another accident.

I have no idea what's happened, but here's the facts:

1) Went to an appointment. Parked the car on the street on an incline. Notice some "rainbow" like fluid on the street. Didn't think it was my car.

2) After an hour, went back to the car. Started the car, but it was really rough and took a while to catch and start. Didn't think too much of it...just it was a little strange...

3) Drove 4-5 blocks...then...stalled. In the middle of street. Couldn't restart. Shuddered violently to a stop...luckily there was batter power still, but no power steering, brakes, etc.

While i was stuck awaiting the tow...trying to figure out what went wrong...

Noticed more rainbow type fluid on the road...

But before the stall, no warning lights, no warnings at all, actually...

I don't believe i hit anything on the underside...or hit any potholes, etc.

Any ideas?

It's at the dealer now...hoping it's a warranty issue...because i do not want to think about the other way...
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 10:59 PM
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rainbow fluid would seem to be petroleum based which doesn't narrow it down much. Did you see fluid pooling from under your car? Did you smell any burning fluid? If the fluid is not from your car, first thought was bad crank sensor shutting you down. Hopefully it will be a warranty issue.
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 11:51 PM
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Could POSSIBLY have been diesel? Then was told that it was it could have been coolant.

Do you think, possibly, anything to do with the fuel filter?
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 09:36 AM
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It could have been any fluid, lubricant or fuel except the washer fluid. Without the car to look at for signs of a leak, you'll just have to wait for their diagnosis.

Was the accident you witnessed a result of your car stalled in the road? Just curious.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Does the starter spin (i.e. does it crank)? If so, thats definitely a good sign.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 10:36 AM
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How much fuel was in the tank? Perhaps the tank was low and you got some water in the diesel?
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 12:18 PM
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So the witness to the accident occurred when someone was distracted by my stall. So good news it was not me.

1) It does not crank. The battery is ok and runs windows, radio etc... but when the ignition is pushed - nothing. IT was completely dead apart from the battery run devices.

2) Fuel was 3/4 in the tank.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 04:26 PM
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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I know it stalled but as good measure did you try to remove the push-to-start button and attempt to use the key to turn it over? If not, this is a good idea as it is possible for the EIS to lose track of the key. Rare but it does happen.
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:08 AM
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The car is always throwing up warning messages but not when you need it ---darn.
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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Update.

Seized engine.

Urgh.

Leak from the seal on the filter. Not covered by warranty.

BIG pit of stomach feeling.


So...ideas on how to fix other that paying MB the $31k for a new engine?
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 11:37 AM
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holy cow. who did the last oil change? If it was MB they supposedly cover parts and labor for 12 months. If dealer does not take responsibility for faulty part, then get MBUSA customer service involved. If they claim it was the result of road damage then you may want to check with your insurance.

I would start documenting everything in case you need an attorney.
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 04:17 PM
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Update.

Seized engine.

Urgh.

Leak from the seal on the filter. Not covered by warranty.

BIG pit of stomach feeling.


So...ideas on how to fix other that paying MB the $31k for a new engine?
No warning light for low oil?
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 09:36 AM
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^exactly. You should have had multiple warnings every time you started it for some time before it locked up. Sorry about this, but it will be a very expensive fix.
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 09:44 AM
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I would expect warning lights as well, but in the first post, the OP clearly says no warning lights at all.
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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There are several Blutec engine seize stories around the MB sites. Oil change intervals are important for those engines. When an engine is spewing fluid it is not too long before they will lock up. Unfortunately, I don't see any easy resolution to this and more than likely it will all be on your dime, unless the dealer had been servicing your car. If that is the case,they should be liable.
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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 11:09 PM
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There are several Blutec engine seize stories around the MB sites. Oil change intervals are important for those engines. When an engine is spewing fluid it is not too long before they will lock up. Unfortunately, I don't see any easy resolution to this and more than likely it will all be on your dime, unless the dealer had been servicing your car. If that is the case,they should be liable.
MB recommends checking the oil level every time you fill up the car. I never checked my oil with any car I had in the past but have been doing this every time since I purchased my first Benz.


It is very discomforting to realize there is no oil level and obviously not even oil pressure warning on these cars... How can this be?
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 08:20 AM
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Isn't there an easy check - an oil pressure warning light that illuminates with ignition on prior to start? I find it hard to believe that there is nothing.
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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Yes - I was surprised no oil warning light - at all....
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 03:35 PM
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Im sorry to hear about this and wish you the best on this issue.

Let me ask, was the filter seal the rubber one? Was it kinked or did it break? How long ago before was the oil change that caused this?
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