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2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 (5.1) RETROFIT from NGT4

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Old 07-18-2019, 04:29 AM
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This is a 360 back camera, not reversing camera.
i have reversing camera and i need this one :-)
if you like we can change the cameras
The part number you need is A0008201203
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This is a 360 back camera, not reversing camera.
i have reversing camera and i need this one :-)
if you like we can change the cameras
The part number you need is A0008201203
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This thread is awesome, definitely bookmarking it... not a fan of the big screens, but I really want to upgrade my '15 E250 Turbodiesel to NTG51.

I saw a reference to a shop in NL that can do it, but is there any place to have this done by a pro in the USA? Or would it have to be a DIwhy here?
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I just did it again and now in my 2013 W166 ML.
That looks like ab aftermarket big screen install, not the overhaul of the factory headunit and whatnot, or did you do both? If so how much trouble was repinning the harness?
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Oh, neat, but I'm just looking for the 5.1 system in my W212, not a larger screen... not even sure if that'd fit a W212.
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Hi Chris, I have a 2013 GL350 X166, which has the Comand NTG 4.7 with navigation in it. I am assuming that this can also be upgraded to the 5S1. What parts would I need and where is the best place to get them?

Thanks in advance
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I can get it for you as long the unit is not stolen.
Can anyone get the pin code for my ntg 5*1.

Thank you guys.
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I can get you that...
Thanks. But for that price I’ll try something else.

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Originally Posted by chris is banned
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Thank you a lot. How can i enter the code on my head unit ? Is there only one way or more to do that ? Currently is showing this screen, I noticed that if i pull out the (pink) wire from the small black connector, the unit won’t go into anti theft mode, but it wouldn’t let me change the vehicle settings as the unit thinks the key is no on.....
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Ntg5s1 retrofit from ntg4.5

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Only by Xentry and Vediamo as far as I know.
Hello

I read your thread and decided to do the conversion to a friend's car w212 model 2014
The car has ntg4.5 audio 20 and want to retrofit the ntg5s1 audio 20.
I read and print the wiring diagrams for both ntg4.5 and ntg5s1 and made all the necessary modifications.

Managed to unlock the ntg5s1 and the screen powered on but now I have problem with the can bus body and also the rotary controller doesn't work.
I get a message that after 3 minutes the the radio will switch off.
I reppined the cables for the can body from the original quadlock pin 11 to new block c pin 9 for cab high and from pin 9 to block pin 3 can low.
What I am doing wrong?
Also the original rotary controller which was installed to the car was the one with four buttons but I don't get any power to that

Any help would be appreciated

Kimd Regards
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You installed the new rotary for 5s1? Its a must.
Thanks for the reply.
The car had already the rotary with the four buttons exactly like the one from that of ntg5s1 despite it has ntg4.5.
About can bus body I reppined the cable and use the can bus from the ntg4.5
The radio behave like it has no signal from can bus
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You installed the new rotary for 5s1? Its a must.
Thanks for the reply.
The car had already the rotary with the four buttons exactly like the one from that of ntg5s1 despite it has ntg4.5.
About can bus body I reppined the cable and use the can bus from the ntg4.5
The radio behave like it has no signal from can bus
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Originally Posted by chris is banned
That dont matter. Its NOT the same for 5s1. You need one with a ""off" button on it.

Can bus is not corect or wake up is not corect if it wants to shut off.

Coded corect most ring components?
Yes you right. I didn't know that there is difference , i will find the controller first.
I noticed the most had also dab which the car doesn't have but I didn't touch it because I wanted to find the can bus problem.

About the wake up do you mean most wake up pin 16?
Is there any case the issue with can bus to be from most components?


For can bus I used the cables which came to the ntg4.5 is that correct or I have to pull cables from the can bus central connectors.
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Hi.
what kind of cable do you purchased?
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Originally Posted by michael130509
Hello

I read your thread and decided to do the conversion to a friend's car w212 model 2014
The car has ntg4.5 audio 20 and want to retrofit the ntg5s1 audio 20.
I read and print the wiring diagrams for both ntg4.5 and ntg5s1 and made all the necessary modifications.

Managed to unlock the ntg5s1 and the screen powered on but now I have problem with the can bus body and also the rotary controller doesn't work.
I get a message that after 3 minutes the the radio will switch off.
I reppined the cables for the can body from the original quadlock pin 11 to new block c pin 9 for cab high and from pin 9 to block pin 3 can low.
What I am doing wrong?
Also the original rotary controller which was installed to the car was the one with four buttons but I don't get any power to that

Any help would be appreciated

Kimd Regards
Michael
Hi michael.
Can you share the wiring diagram for ntg4.5 and 5s1?
Old 10-06-2019, 04:32 PM
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I think it is the most ring coding that is your problem. Start with that.
Thank you Chris. It worked!!!!
I did today , I replaced also the controller everything worked good.
I had a small issue with the usb module but I fixed it.
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Originally Posted by forsyn
Hi.
what kind of cable do you purchased?
Hello
I didn't purchased any cable.
I made my own. You have to make four wires to the obd port and repin some others.
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Originally Posted by forsyn
Hi michael.
Can you share the wiring diagram for ntg4.5 and 5s1?
I read the wiring diagrams for ntg4.5 and ntg5s1 and make the changes.
Do you have access to the wis? You can print the wiring diagrams for both systems and see the differences there.
You have to change the can bus, telematics bus, the microphone cables and to wire new cables 4 to obd and 3 cables for usb.
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i have mercedes benz w212 E class 350 214 include the traffic sign recognition, the car is shipped from Germany to Lebanon , that system is working for one day only the first day the car arrived, and after that day the traffic recognition sign system is not operational, can anybody help me

BeEst Regards
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I am looking for a video cable scheme - two blue connector
I have connectors.
Diagram please.


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I change a new joystick with 4 buttons and joystick not work. Old joystick with 2 buttons not work too
Why ?
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How do you recognize the right one ?
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Maybe someone will write the part number of the joystick with two buttons from the manual and part nr joystick with four buttons from automatic gear ?
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Hi.
I installed NTG5 to w212 prelift. Finally it looks like this.

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I can't find this option. I "m blind ?
Where is it ?
I work on HU5s1.cbf file.
Thx


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