2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 (5.1) RETROFIT from NGT4
#227
Hi Chris
I bought this reverse camera A0008202482 which is only on Fakra (LVDS) connection.Picture attached.
I bought extra extension lead and connected straight to the unit, where is described as CAM on back of unit.
Set all settings in VEDIAMO and on screen as R gear.
Still not working. What do you think do i need different camera? What type ? Number part?
I bought this reverse camera A0008202482 which is only on Fakra (LVDS) connection.Picture attached.
I bought extra extension lead and connected straight to the unit, where is described as CAM on back of unit.
Set all settings in VEDIAMO and on screen as R gear.
Still not working. What do you think do i need different camera? What type ? Number part?
#228
Member
Hey @Chris The Swede,
You seem to know a lot. I have a 15 E350 that came with the NTG4.7 and I want to upgrade it to OEM NTG5s1 to use apple car play, mirror link etc. What do I need to buy to make it work? I know I need a new unit but do I also need the screen and cables? I can get brand new parts at whole sale price so I will just need the dealer to do it for me.
You seem to know a lot. I have a 15 E350 that came with the NTG4.7 and I want to upgrade it to OEM NTG5s1 to use apple car play, mirror link etc. What do I need to buy to make it work? I know I need a new unit but do I also need the screen and cables? I can get brand new parts at whole sale price so I will just need the dealer to do it for me.
#230
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Hi Chris
I bought this reverse camera A0008202482 which is only on Fakra (LVDS) connection.Picture attached.
I bought extra extension lead and connected straight to the unit, where is described as CAM on back of unit.
Set all settings in VEDIAMO and on screen as R gear.
Still not working. What do you think do i need different camera? What type ? Number part?
I bought this reverse camera A0008202482 which is only on Fakra (LVDS) connection.Picture attached.
I bought extra extension lead and connected straight to the unit, where is described as CAM on back of unit.
Set all settings in VEDIAMO and on screen as R gear.
Still not working. What do you think do i need different camera? What type ? Number part?
#231
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#233
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#237
Thank you Chris.
Does somebody know which rear view camera fit for NTG 5s1 ?
I bought new version rear view camera A0008201203 with fakra connection and power pins and can connection. Still have problem connect it.
Please help.
Does somebody know which rear view camera fit for NTG 5s1 ?
I bought new version rear view camera A0008201203 with fakra connection and power pins and can connection. Still have problem connect it.
Please help.
#239
Hi Chris.
Thats ok. May need different cable fakra but does not should i connect with camera if is connected via can and power supply without LVDS data cable?
I still cant see camera under Vediamo software as RVC218 only i can see is HU5S1.
Anyway is it right type of camera with power supply CAN connection and LVDS or should be any different one ?
Thats ok. May need different cable fakra but does not should i connect with camera if is connected via can and power supply without LVDS data cable?
I still cant see camera under Vediamo software as RVC218 only i can see is HU5S1.
Anyway is it right type of camera with power supply CAN connection and LVDS or should be any different one ?
Last edited by Arcadius82; 05-07-2018 at 11:02 AM.
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ml5mph (08-16-2018)
#240
chris. some questions since my car setup is a bit different.
1) i have amg performance media (sa code 255)- obviously it self is a media box that output all command information to the screen. and the interface is triggered by pressing "amg" button close to the climate control panel; that means it normally display whatever a ntg4.7 command displays, and can be switched to amg menu which display more information like transmission oil temp. gravity sensor info and tracking info
--> if i retrofit to the new 10.5 inch screen, will it be possible to display somehow these information? i guess that the 10.5 inch screen can somehow support as a video out screen in this case?(when i need to trigger amg menu)
if not, i just want to know it
2) there is a comand 5s1 cluster info converter on you website. - mind to add more information to that? the reason i am interested is i retrofitted W166 OEM HUD on my W204, everything works fine(since HUD ONLY get display information from cluster) but i can not setup it (there is no HUD menu in W212/204 cluster) i dont know if adding your comand 5s1 converter can help (without changing the head unit to 5s1)
sorry for these questions but looking to your reply
1) i have amg performance media (sa code 255)- obviously it self is a media box that output all command information to the screen. and the interface is triggered by pressing "amg" button close to the climate control panel; that means it normally display whatever a ntg4.7 command displays, and can be switched to amg menu which display more information like transmission oil temp. gravity sensor info and tracking info
--> if i retrofit to the new 10.5 inch screen, will it be possible to display somehow these information? i guess that the 10.5 inch screen can somehow support as a video out screen in this case?(when i need to trigger amg menu)
if not, i just want to know it
2) there is a comand 5s1 cluster info converter on you website. - mind to add more information to that? the reason i am interested is i retrofitted W166 OEM HUD on my W204, everything works fine(since HUD ONLY get display information from cluster) but i can not setup it (there is no HUD menu in W212/204 cluster) i dont know if adding your comand 5s1 converter can help (without changing the head unit to 5s1)
sorry for these questions but looking to your reply
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ml5mph (08-16-2018)
#241
Dear Experts,
I have retrofitted NTG5s1 in my CLS 218, the car is equipped with night vision option code SA 610 from the factory, it was working fine on NTG4.5, now in the new comand NTG5s1 it does not work and does not show anything when I press on the night vision button
any help please would be appreciated
I have retrofitted NTG5s1 in my CLS 218, the car is equipped with night vision option code SA 610 from the factory, it was working fine on NTG4.5, now in the new comand NTG5s1 it does not work and does not show anything when I press on the night vision button
any help please would be appreciated
#242
Comand 5s1 retrofitted in 2010 W207/W212 from 2016 models. - YouTube
My 2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 retrofit into my 2010 W207.
So???
What 2016 parts was needed SO FAR to do this retrofit from NTG4 to 5s1:
1. Comand 5s1 big version with built in HD navi
2. Screen
3. Video cable to screen
4. Repinning of cables in sockets
5. LAN antenna
6. H/K Amp
7. Camera and cablekit
8. Screen frame
9. New joystick with 4 buttons
10. Pincode
11. Maps with activation code
I am experimenting alot with programming and activating of menues. I got the AMG logo to start it of. And alot else so far.
So ALL that works now but
only PROBLEMS so far:
Navigation dont get a speed signal. So maps stop moving when it loses satelites.
Media dont showup in cluster. All else show up and work. Radio,Navi.phone...
AMG dails, then middle big one dont work. Guess it is also speed signal issue.
Camera dont send video
My 2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 retrofit into my 2010 W207.
So???
What 2016 parts was needed SO FAR to do this retrofit from NTG4 to 5s1:
1. Comand 5s1 big version with built in HD navi
2. Screen
3. Video cable to screen
4. Repinning of cables in sockets
5. LAN antenna
6. H/K Amp
7. Camera and cablekit
8. Screen frame
9. New joystick with 4 buttons
10. Pincode
11. Maps with activation code
I am experimenting alot with programming and activating of menues. I got the AMG logo to start it of. And alot else so far.
So ALL that works now but
only PROBLEMS so far:
Navigation dont get a speed signal. So maps stop moving when it loses satelites.
Media dont showup in cluster. All else show up and work. Radio,Navi.phone...
AMG dails, then middle big one dont work. Guess it is also speed signal issue.
Camera dont send video
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dsekhri (09-05-2018)
#244
help me. chris
hi. chris
i live in south korea.
i have a w204 c class 2013 model.
i want to ntg5s1 from ntg4.5.
how installed it?
i want to know that. and I want to buy everything I need to install.
please help me.
i live in south korea.
i have a w204 c class 2013 model.
i want to ntg5s1 from ntg4.5.
how installed it?
i want to know that. and I want to buy everything I need to install.
please help me.
#246
Junior Member
Rear-camera NTG5s1
[QUOTE = dialko; 7035061] Olá, Chris
Você poderia, por favor, encontrar um pouco do seu precioso tempo para me ajudar com o seguinte problema:
Após instalar, codificar a unidade 5s1 junto com a nova câmera e a fiação para 5s1,
uma mensagem continua escondendo que a câmera não está encontrado e depois de um segundo vídeo da câmera se transforma em tela preta. Você mencionou anteriormente que resolveu o problema da câmera, por favor, compartilhe seu conhecimento sobre isso. Eu sou um proprietário do carro W246 2013 e não um instalador comercial, mas de todas as maneiras instalador qualificado que está trabalhando com meu carro por mais de um mês agora está preso com o mesmo problema que você alegou que a unidade talvez com defeito.
Por favor, ajude. [/ QUOTE]
as it is coming from a Retrofit NTG4.5 to NTG5s1; it should change the CAN-G, to the CAN E!...Why NTG5S1 Camera Needs Electric Steering whell
Você poderia, por favor, encontrar um pouco do seu precioso tempo para me ajudar com o seguinte problema:
Após instalar, codificar a unidade 5s1 junto com a nova câmera e a fiação para 5s1,
uma mensagem continua escondendo que a câmera não está encontrado e depois de um segundo vídeo da câmera se transforma em tela preta. Você mencionou anteriormente que resolveu o problema da câmera, por favor, compartilhe seu conhecimento sobre isso. Eu sou um proprietário do carro W246 2013 e não um instalador comercial, mas de todas as maneiras instalador qualificado que está trabalhando com meu carro por mais de um mês agora está preso com o mesmo problema que você alegou que a unidade talvez com defeito.
Por favor, ajude. [/ QUOTE]
as it is coming from a Retrofit NTG4.5 to NTG5s1; it should change the CAN-G, to the CAN E!...Why NTG5S1 Camera Needs Electric Steering whell
#249
I know this thread is for NTG5s1, but I am curious what it would require to update my 2012 W218 cluster and comand (tan/brown graphics) to the 2013/14 variant with black/red graphics? Any sold info on this for the early W218's out there?
Thanks in advance!
Thanks in advance!
#250
Comand 5s1 retrofitted in 2010 W207/W212 from 2016 models. - YouTube
My 2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 retrofit into my 2010 W207.
only PROBLEMS so far:
Media dont showup in cluster.
My 2016 COMAND NTG 5s1 retrofit into my 2010 W207.
only PROBLEMS so far:
Media dont showup in cluster.
i have same problems