TPMS - No Wheel Sensors
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2011 E550 (RIP), 2014 CLS 550C4
TPMS - No Wheel Sensors
Bought the car, a 2011 E550, with about 20k miles on it, selling dealer (BMW) replaced all 4 tires. TPMS functioning normally.
Just over a year ago the right front TPMS sensor went missing. Dash displayed correct pressures for the remaining 3, and showed TPMS Sensor Missing for the right front. decided to live with it until the tires needed to be replaced.
Fast forward to Sat, 10/28: Brand new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ installed by local tire shop. Since one was dead I decided to have all 4 TPMS sensors replaced given they are about 7 years old. Tire shop used Schrader brand "EZ-sensor", P/N 33500.
Initiated the reset through the dash, and the yellow tire light remained on of course. 8 ish miles later: "Tire Pressure Monitor Inoperative No Wheel Sensors". Yellow tire remains on.
It sure seems obvious to me. System was working fine before the tire and sensor change, and now it can't find any sensors.
The quick question is this: does the TPMS system need to be reset using SDS? I've read a dozen TPMS threads here and I haven't seen a single thing that said SDS will solve it.
Many thanks,
Dan
Just over a year ago the right front TPMS sensor went missing. Dash displayed correct pressures for the remaining 3, and showed TPMS Sensor Missing for the right front. decided to live with it until the tires needed to be replaced.
Fast forward to Sat, 10/28: Brand new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ installed by local tire shop. Since one was dead I decided to have all 4 TPMS sensors replaced given they are about 7 years old. Tire shop used Schrader brand "EZ-sensor", P/N 33500.
Initiated the reset through the dash, and the yellow tire light remained on of course. 8 ish miles later: "Tire Pressure Monitor Inoperative No Wheel Sensors". Yellow tire remains on.
It sure seems obvious to me. System was working fine before the tire and sensor change, and now it can't find any sensors.
The quick question is this: does the TPMS system need to be reset using SDS? I've read a dozen TPMS threads here and I haven't seen a single thing that said SDS will solve it.
Many thanks,
Dan
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Keep driving to see if they will actuate. It may take several more miles, unless you are already beyond the 8 miles. I installed some new tires and wheels in the spring for the summer and ordered Schrader sensors model no. A0009054100 (433.92Mhz). I reset the system on the MFD and waited for probably 20 miles before they recognized all sensors. It has been perfect since. No SDS reset required at all.
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Thanks for the feedback Key. Between errands on Sat and Sun, plus the drive into work this AM, I've got well over 20 miles on the new sensors.
And thanks for confirming the SDS question.
Dan
And thanks for confirming the SDS question.
Dan
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Bought the car, a 2011 E550, with about 20k miles on it, selling dealer (BMW) replaced all 4 tires. TPMS functioning normally.
Just over a year ago the right front TPMS sensor went missing. Dash displayed correct pressures for the remaining 3, and showed TPMS Sensor Missing for the right front. decided to live with it until the tires needed to be replaced.
Fast forward to Sat, 10/28: Brand new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ installed by local tire shop. Since one was dead I decided to have all 4 TPMS sensors replaced given they are about 7 years old. Tire shop used Schrader brand "EZ-sensor", P/N 33500.
Initiated the reset through the dash, and the yellow tire light remained on of course. 8 ish miles later: "Tire Pressure Monitor Inoperative No Wheel Sensors". Yellow tire remains on.
It sure seems obvious to me. System was working fine before the tire and sensor change, and now it can't find any sensors.
The quick question is this: does the TPMS system need to be reset using SDS? I've read a dozen TPMS threads here and I haven't seen a single thing that said SDS will solve it.
Many thanks,
Dan
Just over a year ago the right front TPMS sensor went missing. Dash displayed correct pressures for the remaining 3, and showed TPMS Sensor Missing for the right front. decided to live with it until the tires needed to be replaced.
Fast forward to Sat, 10/28: Brand new Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ installed by local tire shop. Since one was dead I decided to have all 4 TPMS sensors replaced given they are about 7 years old. Tire shop used Schrader brand "EZ-sensor", P/N 33500.
Initiated the reset through the dash, and the yellow tire light remained on of course. 8 ish miles later: "Tire Pressure Monitor Inoperative No Wheel Sensors". Yellow tire remains on.
It sure seems obvious to me. System was working fine before the tire and sensor change, and now it can't find any sensors.
The quick question is this: does the TPMS system need to be reset using SDS? I've read a dozen TPMS threads here and I haven't seen a single thing that said SDS will solve it.
Many thanks,
Dan
By this shop there are two frequencies on the sensors that they read with the tool but based on what happened there must be another one in use in my car.
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Interesting indeed Arrie.
I had a conversation with Schrader tech support a little while ago. As I mentioned above, the tire shop used Schrader sensors, #33500. According to tech support that sensor, which is a "programmable" sensor (it broadcasts in 3 different frequencies, and other parameters) the installing tech must program it with a programming tool to the vehicle. He further stated that, according to his documentation, the 33500 cannot be programmed to my 2011 E550. The Schrader tech further suggested that their model 28214 sensor be used; it is a direct replacement for the OE and is pre programmed. Finally, he confirmed that if a sensor is programmed, or pre programmed correctly the vehicles TPMS system does not need to be "reset" using factory diagnostics (AKA SDS).
I'll be stopping by the tire shop this evening.
To add insult to injury, the tire shop charged me 3X the price for each sensor. The 33500 is available at local stores and across the internet for about 50.00 Ea. They charged me 150.00 each. Ouch. My own fault, while I price shopped the tires I didn't shop the TPMS sensors. Regardless, I've sent their corporate office an email.
Dan
I had a conversation with Schrader tech support a little while ago. As I mentioned above, the tire shop used Schrader sensors, #33500. According to tech support that sensor, which is a "programmable" sensor (it broadcasts in 3 different frequencies, and other parameters) the installing tech must program it with a programming tool to the vehicle. He further stated that, according to his documentation, the 33500 cannot be programmed to my 2011 E550. The Schrader tech further suggested that their model 28214 sensor be used; it is a direct replacement for the OE and is pre programmed. Finally, he confirmed that if a sensor is programmed, or pre programmed correctly the vehicles TPMS system does not need to be "reset" using factory diagnostics (AKA SDS).
I'll be stopping by the tire shop this evening.
To add insult to injury, the tire shop charged me 3X the price for each sensor. The 33500 is available at local stores and across the internet for about 50.00 Ea. They charged me 150.00 each. Ouch. My own fault, while I price shopped the tires I didn't shop the TPMS sensors. Regardless, I've sent their corporate office an email.
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Interesting. My MY12 E350 sedan does not have tyre pressure sensors. Instead, the ECU/BCM picks up on the rotational speed of the wheel. If the tyre pressure is low, it'll give you a warning on the instrument panel.
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How do you go about setting the pressures or determining how far the pressure has fallen in a deflating tire?
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The day I had the wheels put on, the car did display a tyre pressure low message, but I simply restarted the car, drove it, and it hasn't reported any errors since. I gather the car had to calibrate/adjust.
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I'm sure someone knows the facts here in the forum...
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This is interesting. I’m going to try and read up on how that system works. It would need to accommodate staggered setups and tire rotations. Each tire must be treated as its own individual bubble and monitored for any significant rotational change.
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If the tips are fragilely cracked or broken then It would be the monitor in the sensor itself. It does wear out over period of time, like a battery.
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Issue resolved. The tire shop procured and installed the Schrader 28214 sensors and the yellow tire warning light extinguished itself within blocks of driving the car, and read out the tire pressure shortly there after. No SDS "reset" of the TPMS system was needed. The tires were over filled, of course (for max load) but that was easily remedied.
BTW, the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ are really nice, much better than the OE Continentals. I also had all 4 road force balanced - well worth the 25.00/per tire up charge.
BTW, the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ are really nice, much better than the OE Continentals. I also had all 4 road force balanced - well worth the 25.00/per tire up charge.
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Missing tyre sensor
I ran into a pothole which damaged my tyre (the driver sit). I drove a little forward then changed it to my extra tyre. Ever since then there has always been a message about missing sensor on the front left. I changed the tyres but it is still the same, what might have happened? What do I need to do, is there a possibility the sensor might have fallen off? E550 2010. Is it going to affect the other sensors or my car if I leave it that way?
