Pennsylvania MB Dealer claiming they don't have title yet -& delaying purchase/pickup




I've checked online, but there doesn't appear to be a way to determine who holds a PA Title without submitting a paper request with a 5-10 business day turnaround. If they're being truthful, I may end up holding on and going up there a week or two from now to buy the car, but I'd like a way to verify if they're being truthful without calling them out.
If anyone here could run a title check or let me know if this sounds like a ploy to get me to back out, can you let me know? thanks!

I wouldn't worry about the title. I've bough new and CPO from both MB of Pitt, as well as Rahal (sister dealer in Wexford), and never gotten a title immediately at time of purchase (paying cash/check). The only time it bothered me was when the manager was giving me static about a check from an "out of state bank" which was really only 60 miles away with branches in PA, and they didn't even have the title. Dealers don't usually have titles for these cars, and probably don't process them until the transaction is complete. You will get your title.




I wouldn't worry about the title. I've bough new and CPO from both MB of Pitt, as well as Rahal (sister dealer in Wexford), and never gotten a title immediately at time of purchase (paying cash/check). The only time it bothered me was when the manager was giving me static about a check from an "out of state bank" which was really only 60 miles away with branches in PA, and they didn't even have the title. Dealers don't usually have titles for these cars, and probably don't process them until the transaction is complete. You will get your title.
I am confused....Your purchasing from MB PIT but they are purchasing out of state? is it one of their sister, brother, cousin who looks at your children way too long at family reunion dealerships? Uncle who for some reason is not allowed at the public pool during the summer dealerships?
12/13 makes is right at 42 days today. Deduct 12 days for weekends, Xmas, New Years plus possibility of personnel probably taking off Monday of both holidays that makes four more days, and MLK Birthday that makes it 17 days. Factor in the football purists that probably called in either Sick or Dead after losing seasons....Except for Cleveland...they are used to it....TOO SOON? Add in the sick calls or possible no shows for the Clemson fans, plus the Houston, Seattle, Baltimore and Chicago fans after Wild Card Weekend....Especially the Bears Kicker, he probably wanted to cut his toe off after that....Again too soon??
Now add in the Colts, Cowboy's Chargers and Eagles fans after Divisional rounds....and add Kansas City and New Orleans fans after last weekend....divide by the title department staffing and adjust for Cold/Flu, season, snow, fires, other life's mayhem events and in perspective six weeks isn't overly long.
Sorry I know your frustrated just trying to break the tension. One quick lesson from my time living in PA....Pittsburgh area ironically. If you are purchasing out of state Check two items. 1. Vehicle is factory equipped with CA Emissions,, trust me it should say it on window sticker or VIN search. As a exemption to rule 1....there is always some trick, and this one is believe it or not totally legal and in fact the PA DMV procedure for registration of NON California Emissions vehicles in PA. Part 2 If previously sold or registered in a state with NON California emissions make sure it is 7501 Miles or above. I guess they figure most engines, exhaust and emissions control systems are broke in by then. The other scenario and they will help you, believe it or not.... They will issue and renew/extend the Temporary Tag to get the vehicle above the 7500 mile threshold. I am sure they won't renew indefinite but I would say probably once if necessary. If you get bored check out some of the dealer websites for dealers along the Ohio/PA border. Window sticker check will probably show California Emissions. They don't sell every one but keep a few representative models of each fleet for exactly this scenario. Purchasing used even if was a executive/dealer demo it should have close to the 7500 mile minimum.
What part of OHIO? I lived in PA, purchased in Columbus (2014 Taurus SHO) but registered in TX. CA emissions not required because by the time the OH temp tag expired (45 days I believe for OH at the time) I was able to get a TX Temporary tag and extend once until I could afford the new vehicle TX sales tax and fees.




I am confused....Your purchasing from MB PIT but they are purchasing out of state? is it one of their sister, brother, cousin who looks at your children way too long at family reunion dealerships? Uncle who for some reason is not allowed at the public pool during the summer dealerships?
12/13 makes is right at 42 days today. Deduct 12 days for weekends, Xmas, New Years plus possibility of personnel probably taking off Monday of both holidays that makes four more days, and MLK Birthday that makes it 17 days. Factor in the football purists that probably called in either Sick or Dead after losing seasons....Except for Cleveland...they are used to it....TOO SOON? Add in the sick calls or possible no shows for the Clemson fans, plus the Houston, Seattle, Baltimore and Chicago fans after Wild Card Weekend....Especially the Bears Kicker, he probably wanted to cut his toe off after that....Again too soon??
Now add in the Colts, Cowboy's Chargers and Eagles fans after Divisional rounds....and add Kansas City and New Orleans fans after last weekend....divide by the title department staffing and adjust for Cold/Flu, season, snow, fires, other life's mayhem events and in perspective six weeks isn't overly long.
Sorry I know your frustrated just trying to break the tension. One quick lesson from my time living in PA....Pittsburgh area ironically. If you are purchasing out of state Check two items. 1. Vehicle is factory equipped with CA Emissions,, trust me it should say it on window sticker or VIN search. As a exemption to rule 1....there is always some trick, and this one is believe it or not totally legal and in fact the PA DMV procedure for registration of NON California Emissions vehicles in PA. Part 2 If previously sold or registered in a state with NON California emissions make sure it is 7501 Miles or above. I guess they figure most engines, exhaust and emissions control systems are broke in by then. The other scenario and they will help you, believe it or not.... They will issue and renew/extend the Temporary Tag to get the vehicle above the 7500 mile threshold. I am sure they won't renew indefinite but I would say probably once if necessary. If you get bored check out some of the dealer websites for dealers along the Ohio/PA border. Window sticker check will probably show California Emissions. They don't sell every one but keep a few representative models of each fleet for exactly this scenario. Purchasing used even if was a executive/dealer demo it should have close to the 7500 mile minimum.
What part of OHIO? I lived in PA, purchased in Columbus (2014 Taurus SHO) but registered in TX. CA emissions not required because by the time the OH temp tag expired (45 days I believe for OH at the time) I was able to get a TX Temporary tag and extend once until I could afford the new vehicle TX sales tax and fees.
Sorry for the confusion. I live in Virginia and would be traveling to Pitt purchase the car. I'd be putting around 50% down and financing the rest with MB of Pitt, which shouldn't have any problem clearing with my FICO score (and they've already run it as per my credit report). The car will ultimately be registered in an area of VA with no emissions inspections and it now has 28K miles, so I should be OK with any emissions stuff. MB of Pitt did not purchase the car, it's a lease return and looks like it was always registered in Pennsylvania.
The car is pretty loaded and sort of rare-ish, but I'm paranoid about buying it basically sight unseen.
That reminds me inneed to check mine. Initial registration in SOCAllL so should have it but stil curious.
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If you want to know for sure, why not call another dealer in PA like in Philly and talk to the finance department and ask about title delays as an out of state buyer if you to buy one of their CPO cars.
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so this should all be non issue for dealership - unless they lost title etc and have nothing to turn in once you do the paperwork.
DO they know you are financing?




I think the above situation calls for serious talk with dealership owner.




Are you aware the car has reported accident?
Also it is listed as factory certified, not CPO
Lot of money for something that doesn't have fresh smell.








small or big, accidents can be excuse for voiding the warranty, so would I be in your shoes, I would really work on my homework.
Dealer send me package, who included Carfax
Last edited by kajtek1; Jan 25, 2019 at 12:51 PM.




small or big, accidents can be excuse for voiding the warranty, so would I be in your shoes, I would really work on my homework.
Dealer send me package, who included Carfax











