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I have a dire need to terminate the EGR, DPF, and SCR systems in my 2014 MB E250 (OM651).
I read all the posts on this thread here: https://mbworld.org/forums/glk-class-x204/697383-finally-got-done-glk250-dpf-scr-deleted-egr-disabled-3.html
I'm hopeful that the kit designed for the GLK 250 will be compatible with my E-Class sedan. It seems like GLK 250 kits (RawTek/Malone or Buzzken/JR) are my best options.
I investigated this last year due to some problems with the DEF system that strangely disappeared with time and following strict DEF top-off routines. At that time I did not see a compatible solution for my vehicle
Today, my fortune is not so good. The crude diagnostics I have available indicate the DPF is clogged and likely one (or more) exhaust sensor malfunctions. The vehicle is currently in limp home mode.
Anyone have any advice on preparations for the modification and the maintenance routines that one should follow after the modification?
I appreciate any information you all have on your experience having completed the modification. But, I do prefer to see a response from a fellow E250 Bluetec owner whocompleted the modification and tune.
UPDATE: As anticipated, several shops are totally capable of providing the tune I need. No shops have identified a compatible downpipe with confidence.
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Originally Posted by diezmerc8
UPDATE: As anticipated, several shops are totally capable of providing the tune I need. No shops have identified a compatible downpipe with confidence.
Check with tunemyeuro out of Canada. They've provided the software for a GLK250, 350 (om642) and 320 (om642) for my local shop. If anyone know's what's required, it's them.
Lot changed in last year since you investigated the issue.
I understand you are in Canada, while EPA in USA hit hard some shops offering emission system delete.
How much the delete is going to cost you?
What also come on the market in last year are DPF for $600 and Nox sensors for less than $100.
Meaning instead of spending more money to become illegal, you might want to consider the proper repair.
Appears I will need a custom downpipe; No prefab turn-key kits for the E250; Seems the E250 has a CAT/DPF combination component; Whereas the GLK's are distinct. Everything after that looks similar. GLK250 (distinct CAT/DPF) E250 (DPF/CAT combo)
When those models do suffer from baby teeth in new technology, by now it is well taken care about.
Same engines in Sprinter vans exceeded 600,000 miles still running strong without breaking the law.
Fact is that E250 Bluetec is rare animal in America, so if you don't DIY, you will suffer from lack of qualified service, but once again, technology for repair is easy to find and become affordable (still can't understand why DPF for sedan cost 50% more than for the same engine in Sprinter though)
Side note - my 2014 model has DPF model that can't be find anywhere. Dealer found me a rebuild substitute, but couple years ago they could not supply it.
Now we have new forum sponsor who offers new, aftermarket DPF with all certifications and warranties. He already has DPF for Sprinters and promised DPF for E250 are on their way.
Hi,
I'm considering buying a 2014 e250 bt and have been looking around for vendors that have the full deletes for this car.
Has anyone had any luck with it? Or will I need to go full custom? Worst case my fab guy can do a full custom but I would love if someone like buzzken had a kit for this car.
I'm confused as to why there are so many kits for the ML/GL/GLK/Sprinters but nothing for the E class. I had the same struggles when I was shopping for an E350 bt a few months ago (have since decided to go with an e250 bt over E350 bt).
The great thing is at least Malone tuning is local and those guys can take care of all the tuning needs.
As of this month, no hardware kits available for this vehicle. It seems you know a "fab guy" that can complete the hardware portion. If you need additional information, please send me a PM.
I think it was Malone who was forced in CA to send letters to delete buyers offering them free work on bringing the vehicles to stock?
CARB is not buying "for offroad use" tunes anymore and question is when other jurisdictions will follow?
I sense some kind of delete-phobia is still floating around beside Corona 19 ?
At present time there is not a problem to keep the vehicles with legal emissions for low cost.
It is not pay once, when the law will chase the shop doing illegal tunes and will force you to bring car to stock.
Beside, you MIGHT be sacrificing your lungs in the process.
I highlighted "might" as my car with DPF delete passes NV smog on rolls with 0 particles. I still have DEF working, but keeps scratching my head over it.
Not in the land of the free down here in TX! Diesels are exempt from emissions here.
You still can't shoot people on the streets at will?
You better check your laws. Bet you $100 there is a law forbidding tampering with emission systems. Even in TX.
You still can't shoot people on the streets at will?
You better check your laws. Bet you $100 there is a law forbidding tampering with emission systems. Even in TX.
Originally Posted by DaThresh
Not in the land of the free down here in TX! Diesels are exempt from emissions here.
Please guys, the choice is unique to each individuals' circumstances, evaluation of risk, and general beliefs. If the benefits outweigh these costs, you delete and enjoy 10% better fuel mileage, noticeable power output increases, and a more reliable engine. If the risks outweigh the benefits, you follow the mandates on manufacturer's and shops, pay exorbitant repair fees at the DEALERSHIP that only patch these troubleprone and destructive systems. The choice is MINE, Your's, and Your's. Happy Motoring for the Best Value Proposition!
I want to take mine out and keep it somewhere in case I sell the car later. However, I don't think the process is this simple. I wish there was a good shop that'll do it without permanent change but can't find out around this huge La La land.
I'm hopeful that the kit designed for the GLK 250 will be compatible with my E-Class sedan. It seems like GLK 250 kits (RawTek/Malone or Buzzken/JR) are my best options.
I investigated this last year due to some problems with the DEF system that strangely disappeared with time and following strict DEF top-off routines. At that time I did not see a compatible solution for my vehicle
Today, my fortune is not so good. The crude diagnostics I have available indicate the DPF is clogged and likely one (or more) exhaust sensor malfunctions. The vehicle is currently in limp home mode.
Anyone have any advice on preparations for the modification and the maintenance routines that one should follow after the modification?
I appreciate any information you all have on your experience having completed the modification. But, I do prefer to see a response from a fellow E250 Bluetec owner whocompleted the modification and tune.
Do you have any updates on which route you took and how it is working for you?
Do you have any updates on which route you took and how it is working for you?
Exhaust is modified and ECU is tuned. Fuel mileage is improved more than 5%. Slight diesel smell in idle (as expected). Power output (acceleration) is noticably increased. No complaints. Looking forward to much fewer repair hassles and longer ownership.
If anybody in the USA is considering this, and is not in a time critical situation, I'd suggest waiting a month to see the results of the MB settlement with the government.
As an example, in the the most recent diesel settlement (Chrysler), diesel owners received approximately $3K in restitution, new ECU software, and an extended warranty (10-year) on all the emissions equipment. (source) One catch: modified systems must be restored to stock to receive the benefits of the settlement.
We don't know (yet) what the MB settlement includes but it may be worth waiting a month to find out.
Last edited by cadetdrivr; Aug 17, 2020 at 09:27 AM.
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Exhaust is modified and ECU is tuned. Fuel mileage is improved more than 5%. Slight diesel smell in idle (as expected). Power output (acceleration) is noticably increased. No complaints. Looking forward to much fewer repair hassles and longer ownership.
Did you ship your ECU to have turned out get a DIY? Did you find an exhaust kit already made? My counter just started and regen hasn’t helped and I will need to figure something out soon. I have found a lot for every other class, the E class though seems neglected in this area.
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