Anyone Use a Pneumatic Topsider Oil Extractor?
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Anyone Use a Pneumatic Topsider Oil Extractor?
I see that newer topsiders can now be used with an air compressor (no pumping). Does anyone have experience with this (or similar) unit?
Now that I think about it, the dealers have been using compressor powered evacuators for many years.
After using the manual version for 15 years, the pumping is getting a little old, and the seals on my manual Mityvac are getting old, too.
Now that I think about it, the dealers have been using compressor powered evacuators for many years.
After using the manual version for 15 years, the pumping is getting a little old, and the seals on my manual Mityvac are getting old, too.
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ECS Tuning has a really nice one made by Schwaben, my friend has one and it's really well made. They also have one that is pump and pneumatic, His is just pneumatic.
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The pneumatic drive not only require high-output compressor, but also makes another part to repair.
This seems to be Venturi type pump. Those when are simply build, require huge amount of air. Talk like 3-5 HP air compressor.
The pneumatic drive not only require high-output compressor, but also makes another part to repair.
This seems to be Venturi type pump. Those when are simply build, require huge amount of air. Talk like 3-5 HP air compressor.
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Not the pneumatic style. But I do have the Mityvac pump style. I bought it for changing oil on my SL550, since it was so low to the ground, and a little difficult to lift up. The pump oil extractor worked great on the SL. But I have less than ideal results with my E350. I don't think I get all the oil out. I only get 6 quarts when it starts sucking air. And if I understand correctly, the M276 has a 6.9 quart capacity.
I use the smaller tube, and have really tried to get the tube to go down deeper, but with no success. Any recommendations? I'm about to just plan on draining oil the old fashioned way next time.
I use the smaller tube, and have really tried to get the tube to go down deeper, but with no success. Any recommendations? I'm about to just plan on draining oil the old fashioned way next time.
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MB tubes are design for oil extraction, so ideal would be adapter that lock extractor tube to the top of dipstick tube.
When I had Mityvac, its biggest tube would fit into funnel end of dipstick tube and holding it there, it would seal.
Bear in mind dipstick tube has small hole on the side for evening the pressure above the oil line, so you will have some gargling.
Than if you really are perfectionist, for the time of extraction you can put a 2x plank under the wheel opposite to corner where the tube enters the engine and then extract oil from filter housing.
When I had Mityvac, its biggest tube would fit into funnel end of dipstick tube and holding it there, it would seal.
Bear in mind dipstick tube has small hole on the side for evening the pressure above the oil line, so you will have some gargling.
Than if you really are perfectionist, for the time of extraction you can put a 2x plank under the wheel opposite to corner where the tube enters the engine and then extract oil from filter housing.
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The Schwaben unit looks just like the Mityvac. I do like the tall reservoir, as it holds more than 8qts. My C320 uses 8qts.
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Well, I do walk behind my mower on my 1/4 acre each week. I get bored easily, and standing in one place pumping the handle up and down gets old quick. Mowing the lawn, I get to see some different scenary.
That's why the question of others who use the newer pneumatic version. I have a 4500psi compressor for SCBA and SCUBA tanks, but not a 125psi shop compressor, one of the few toys I have resisted purchasing to date. Now that I see the utility with the extractor, I'm thinking of getting a shop compressor, and looking for what size to get.
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Not the pneumatic style. But I do have the Mityvac pump style. I bought it for changing oil on my SL550, since it was so low to the ground, and a little difficult to lift up. The pump oil extractor worked great on the SL. But I have less than ideal results with my E350. I don't think I get all the oil out. I only get 6 quarts when it starts sucking air. And if I understand correctly, the M276 has a 6.9 quart capacity.
I use the smaller tube, and have really tried to get the tube to go down deeper, but with no success. Any recommendations? I'm about to just plan on draining oil the old fashioned way next time.
I use the smaller tube, and have really tried to get the tube to go down deeper, but with no success. Any recommendations? I'm about to just plan on draining oil the old fashioned way next time.
I'm not concerned with getting out the last drop, since I go only 3-4000 miles between yearly changes and the oil is not all that dirty with so little mileage.
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The last few years, I've bought some larger diameter fish tank tubing that is soft and flexible, so it seals to the dipstick tube better. I have to work harder to get the last 3/4 quart out myself, but think that is because with less oil coming up the tube, the vacuum draws less. So, I have to keep pumping to try to maintain vacuum. I pump another 3-4 minutes after the gurgling starts before quitting, getting about 6.7 qts total, sometimes more, sometimes less..
Knowing that there is at least a quart, maybe two inside the engine even when the oil pan is empty, I've never been one to worry about the last drops either. But I would like to get everything that is in the oil pan.
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oil extractor
I see that newer topsiders can now be used with an air compressor (no pumping). Does anyone have experience with this (or similar) unit?
Now that I think about it, the dealers have been using compressor powered evacuators for many years.
After using the manual version for 15 years, the pumping is getting a little old, and the seals on my manual Mityvac are getting old, too.
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7300-...%2C169&sr=8-18
Now that I think about it, the dealers have been using compressor powered evacuators for many years.
After using the manual version for 15 years, the pumping is getting a little old, and the seals on my manual Mityvac are getting old, too.
https://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7300-...%2C169&sr=8-18
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The C320 took just at 8qts, and on several occassions I sucked out just a few tablespoons less than 8qts.
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Using oil extractor w/ 4Matic ?
I just listed my 9.5 L model by OEMTOOLS on eBay for 60 bucks, I only used it a couple of times. It's manual and all it needs is about 4 to 5 (pumps) to empty my neighbors 5 qt pan. I bought it for my E550 with 4 Matic (oil capacity 8.5L) but the suction tube is not able to reach the bottom of the oil pan. The front axle shaft or some other object prevents the suction tube from being inserted all the way into the dipstick tube and leaves about 3-4L (if I remember.) I used it on my wife's GLA and it left 1 L in the pan so I decided to sell it. This is the listing for the one I'm selling. https://www.ebaOy.com/itm/1843 5865766...84.m1555.l2649.
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Good to know about the 4Matic oil pan. I have been using an extractor to change the oil at 5,000 miles in between Dealer services and was never able to extract the full amount from my ‘15 E350 4Matic wagon. I think I may drain from the pan every other time in the future. Makes me wonder what the Dealer has been doing (drain or extraction).
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Have been to Germany years ago and at the time most German cars had recommendation for oil filter replacement every other oil change (dino oils at the time).
So my friend said that with overhead hoses for extraction and oil fill, his VW was in and out in 3-5 minutes for oil change alone.
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From what I heard - for last 50 years they do extraction only.
Have been to Germany years ago and at the time most German cars had recommendation for oil filter replacement every other oil change (dino oils at the time).
So my friend said that with overhead hoses for extraction and oil fill, his VW was in and out in 3-5 minutes for oil change alone.
Have been to Germany years ago and at the time most German cars had recommendation for oil filter replacement every other oil change (dino oils at the time).
So my friend said that with overhead hoses for extraction and oil fill, his VW was in and out in 3-5 minutes for oil change alone.
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KnKPersonally knowing auto dealerships they take out 6 and charge you for 9. I do it myself because it gives me time too look around or to my indi and watch.
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Here is where I can help, being a Jetski shop owner all boats and PWC are drained from top side. When this is done correctly there is no difference than draining from plug. The most important is to never let your oil get dirty before you change, and to use quality synthetic oil, I use mobil one 10w40w where I live and change oil yearly or at 5k miles whichever comes first. I always use MB or Equiv. filter every oil change. Warm engine thoroughly then drain.
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Here is where I can help, being a Jetski shop owner all boats and PWC are drained from top side. When this is done correctly there is no difference than draining from plug. The most important is to never let your oil get dirty before you change, and to use quality synthetic oil, I use mobil one 10w40w where I live and change oil yearly or at 5k miles whichever comes first. I always use MB or Equiv. filter every oil change. Warm engine thoroughly then drain.
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Lots of agreements on here about short oil change intervals (or as I call it, a waste of money). I owned a 2005 C230K for 4 years and put 146,500 miles on it. It was the M271 engine and at the time MB called for fleece filters but those were not available anywhere in the US, and MB also called for 13,000 mile oil change intervals. I used Mann paper filters and 229.5 Mobil1 0W-40 oil and followed the recommendation to run 13,000 miles.
I did approximately 10 oil changes during my ownership of the C230. I had 3 of those analyzed, one at 68,000 miles, one at 94,000 miles, and one at 133,000. All three times Blackstone labs reported that the engine showed no signs of wear and they recommended me extend the interval to 15,000, stating that the oil had plenty of life left. I was told by Blackstone actually that you do not want used oil to look new, that would indicate it is not doing its job. Used oil should be dark colored.
A bit later we had a 2015 Toyota Corolla that we owned for 18 months and put 41,000 miles on it. The car calls for 10,000 mile oil changes using 0W-20 oil. I had one of these analyzed after 10,400 miles of use. Again Blackstone gave the all clear and said the oil was fine for even longer.
So of course, it if makes you sleep better, change away. But there is no harm in these extended intervals with proper oil and filters.
My W212 is due for oil service this week. I has been 9,400 miles since the last service but the year is up. I may have that analyzed if I still have a kit in the closet. Car has 38,600 miles or so.
I did approximately 10 oil changes during my ownership of the C230. I had 3 of those analyzed, one at 68,000 miles, one at 94,000 miles, and one at 133,000. All three times Blackstone labs reported that the engine showed no signs of wear and they recommended me extend the interval to 15,000, stating that the oil had plenty of life left. I was told by Blackstone actually that you do not want used oil to look new, that would indicate it is not doing its job. Used oil should be dark colored.
A bit later we had a 2015 Toyota Corolla that we owned for 18 months and put 41,000 miles on it. The car calls for 10,000 mile oil changes using 0W-20 oil. I had one of these analyzed after 10,400 miles of use. Again Blackstone gave the all clear and said the oil was fine for even longer.
So of course, it if makes you sleep better, change away. But there is no harm in these extended intervals with proper oil and filters.
My W212 is due for oil service this week. I has been 9,400 miles since the last service but the year is up. I may have that analyzed if I still have a kit in the closet. Car has 38,600 miles or so.
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Lots of agreements on here about short oil change intervals (or as I call it, a waste of money). I owned a 2005 C230K for 4 years and put 146,500 miles on it. It was the M271 engine and at the time MB called for fleece filters but those were not available anywhere in the US, and MB also called for 13,000 mile oil change intervals. I used Mann paper filters and 229.5 Mobil1 0W-40 oil and followed the recommendation to run 13,000 miles.
I did approximately 10 oil changes during my ownership of the C230. I had 3 of those analyzed, one at 68,000 miles, one at 94,000 miles, and one at 133,000. All three times Blackstone labs reported that the engine showed no signs of wear and they recommended me extend the interval to 15,000, stating that the oil had plenty of life left. I was told by Blackstone actually that you do not want used oil to look new, that would indicate it is not doing its job. Used oil should be dark colored.
A bit later we had a 2015 Toyota Corolla that we owned for 18 months and put 41,000 miles on it. The car calls for 10,000 mile oil changes using 0W-20 oil. I had one of these analyzed after 10,400 miles of use. Again Blackstone gave the all clear and said the oil was fine for even longer.
So of course, it if makes you sleep better, change away. But there is no harm in these extended intervals with proper oil and filters.
My W212 is due for oil service this week. I has been 9,400 miles since the last service but the year is up. I may have that analyzed if I still have a kit in the closet. Car has 38,600 miles or so.
I did approximately 10 oil changes during my ownership of the C230. I had 3 of those analyzed, one at 68,000 miles, one at 94,000 miles, and one at 133,000. All three times Blackstone labs reported that the engine showed no signs of wear and they recommended me extend the interval to 15,000, stating that the oil had plenty of life left. I was told by Blackstone actually that you do not want used oil to look new, that would indicate it is not doing its job. Used oil should be dark colored.
A bit later we had a 2015 Toyota Corolla that we owned for 18 months and put 41,000 miles on it. The car calls for 10,000 mile oil changes using 0W-20 oil. I had one of these analyzed after 10,400 miles of use. Again Blackstone gave the all clear and said the oil was fine for even longer.
So of course, it if makes you sleep better, change away. But there is no harm in these extended intervals with proper oil and filters.
My W212 is due for oil service this week. I has been 9,400 miles since the last service but the year is up. I may have that analyzed if I still have a kit in the closet. Car has 38,600 miles or so.
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Lots of agreements on here about short oil change intervals (or as I call it, a waste of money). I owned a 2005 C230K for 4 years and put 146,500 miles on it. It was the M271 engine and at the time MB called for fleece filters but those were not available anywhere in the US, and MB also called for 13,000 mile oil change intervals. I used Mann paper filters and 229.5 Mobil1 0W-40 oil and followed the recommendation to run 13,000 miles.
I did approximately 10 oil changes during my ownership of the C230. I had 3 of those analyzed, one at 68,000 miles, one at 94,000 miles, and one at 133,000. All three times Blackstone labs reported that the engine showed no signs of wear and they recommended me extend the interval to 15,000, stating that the oil had plenty of life left. I was told by Blackstone actually that you do not want used oil to look new, that would indicate it is not doing its job. Used oil should be dark colored.
A bit later we had a 2015 Toyota Corolla that we owned for 18 months and put 41,000 miles on it. The car calls for 10,000 mile oil changes using 0W-20 oil. I had one of these analyzed after 10,400 miles of use. Again Blackstone gave the all clear and said the oil was fine for even longer.
So of course, it if makes you sleep better, change away. But there is no harm in these extended intervals with proper oil and filters.
My W212 is due for oil service this week. I has been 9,400 miles since the last service but the year is up. I may have that analyzed if I still have a kit in the closet. Car has 38,600 miles or so.
I did approximately 10 oil changes during my ownership of the C230. I had 3 of those analyzed, one at 68,000 miles, one at 94,000 miles, and one at 133,000. All three times Blackstone labs reported that the engine showed no signs of wear and they recommended me extend the interval to 15,000, stating that the oil had plenty of life left. I was told by Blackstone actually that you do not want used oil to look new, that would indicate it is not doing its job. Used oil should be dark colored.
A bit later we had a 2015 Toyota Corolla that we owned for 18 months and put 41,000 miles on it. The car calls for 10,000 mile oil changes using 0W-20 oil. I had one of these analyzed after 10,400 miles of use. Again Blackstone gave the all clear and said the oil was fine for even longer.
So of course, it if makes you sleep better, change away. But there is no harm in these extended intervals with proper oil and filters.
My W212 is due for oil service this week. I has been 9,400 miles since the last service but the year is up. I may have that analyzed if I still have a kit in the closet. Car has 38,600 miles or so.
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I just recently completed the 60k mile service on my E350. I let it go a little on the long side because I'm trying to get the maintenance on schedule with the 10k mile events, so the oil had 11,417 miles on it. My sample results from Blackstone also came back excellent, with metals being equivalent or below what Blackstone shows as average for 7500 mile oil changes. While viscosity at 100°C was marginally lower than the lower specification, it was still well above the viscosity range of a 5W-30. (I run 0W-40.)
If you have hard, scientific data showing that these intervals are OK, I do not understand why people still act like it's unreasonable. It's no longer an opinion when it's backed by data.
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Proper 229.5 approved synthetic and a good OE filter and there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to run over 10,000. Personally I will stick to 10,000 as my car is CPO for a long time to come and 10,000 is a good, round, reasonable number. But never will I change it earlier than that.
If you have hard, scientific data showing that these intervals are OK, I do not understand why people still act like it's unreasonable. It's no longer an opinion when it's backed by data.
If you have hard, scientific data showing that these intervals are OK, I do not understand why people still act like it's unreasonable. It's no longer an opinion when it's backed by data.
