KEEP OR SELL/TRADE---2014 E350 4Matic
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KEEP OR SELL/TRADE---2014 E350 4Matic
Good Evening Forum Members,
I am brand new to the forum.
Just a little helpful advice would be beyond appreciated.
I originally leased my Iridium Ag in 10/2013 and purchased it off-lease 01/2016. Bought the CPO to gain an extra year of warranty and then purchased two more years.
Warranty expiring in 10/2020 and have 84000 miles. My car has almost every option available---leather, multicontour, premium+lighting+safety+sport pkgs, amg rims,
60/40 seats, etc. Every maintenance done, oil, fluids, sparks, batteries changed, waxed, shampooed, seats, etc....kept immaculate; period.
Love the car.
My query is should I keep or sell/trade as concerned about problems that could occur post warranty.
Does anyone have W212 with greater than 100K in mileage and what to look out for.
Is there an extended warranty out there to consider.
AGAIN, very much appreciated.
I am brand new to the forum.
Just a little helpful advice would be beyond appreciated.
I originally leased my Iridium Ag in 10/2013 and purchased it off-lease 01/2016. Bought the CPO to gain an extra year of warranty and then purchased two more years.
Warranty expiring in 10/2020 and have 84000 miles. My car has almost every option available---leather, multicontour, premium+lighting+safety+sport pkgs, amg rims,
60/40 seats, etc. Every maintenance done, oil, fluids, sparks, batteries changed, waxed, shampooed, seats, etc....kept immaculate; period.
Love the car.
My query is should I keep or sell/trade as concerned about problems that could occur post warranty.
Does anyone have W212 with greater than 100K in mileage and what to look out for.
Is there an extended warranty out there to consider.
AGAIN, very much appreciated.
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This. Plus since you have leather you don’t have to worry about the seats tearing at the seams. Drivetrain for these are pretty bullet proof if you keep up with the regular maintenance, which it seems like you have done so far.
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I think I'm a little over 127k on mine but it's a 2011 with the M272 engine. I would just keep it for a little while. Haven't had any major problems with mine.
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Sounds like you have a phenomenal and beautifully maintained car. If you’re happy with it, keep it!
They are generally reliable cars. Imagine this, even in a worst-case type scenario such as having to replace the entire transmission, that costs far, far less than even the first year of depreciation on a brand new E.
Unless you’re considering a new car primarily for the upgrade, I’d hang on to this and put aside a bit of the money you’d otherwise spend on a new one in case of repairs. As long as you enjoy the car it will be cheaper to hang on to rather than replace.
They are generally reliable cars. Imagine this, even in a worst-case type scenario such as having to replace the entire transmission, that costs far, far less than even the first year of depreciation on a brand new E.
Unless you’re considering a new car primarily for the upgrade, I’d hang on to this and put aside a bit of the money you’d otherwise spend on a new one in case of repairs. As long as you enjoy the car it will be cheaper to hang on to rather than replace.
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Hello key08, lauer87, cetialpha5 and CCWW,
Much appreciate your reaching out.
The only issues I have had which entailed warranty coverage were:
1. lane assist, SRS, blind spot malfunction lights flashing, gears will not shift flashing, stop driving flashing;
led to signal acquisition and actuation module(SAM) left side replaced @84,000 miles
2. right side actuator motor of blending air flap replaced (hot air blowing; no a/c) @63,500 miles
3. drivers seat height adjustment gearing has free play; replaced gear bolt and washer @60,500 miles
The first one is what led me to posing the thread.
ARE there any extended warranties worth considering....MB DOES NOT OFFER any after the seven years.
Again thank you !!!
Much appreciate your reaching out.
The only issues I have had which entailed warranty coverage were:
1. lane assist, SRS, blind spot malfunction lights flashing, gears will not shift flashing, stop driving flashing;
led to signal acquisition and actuation module(SAM) left side replaced @84,000 miles
2. right side actuator motor of blending air flap replaced (hot air blowing; no a/c) @63,500 miles
3. drivers seat height adjustment gearing has free play; replaced gear bolt and washer @60,500 miles
The first one is what led me to posing the thread.
ARE there any extended warranties worth considering....MB DOES NOT OFFER any after the seven years.
Again thank you !!!
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I would not consider any of them. Aftermarket warranties are great for the dealers, they offer great commissions which tells you what a big rip off they are. I mean there are a few good ones like the one Carmax offers but you have to buy your car from them. It doesn't sound like the problems you had were that expensive. I never had a warranty on either of my cars, but I took them to indy mechanics for service. The usual main problems with after market ones is that the coverage is limited, you may need to get it inspected before repairs are approved and they may be denied, they could go out of business. Considering the cost, it's probably cheaper to self insure.
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You might want to do the math. It has been about six years to do 84,000 miles. Maintenance is maintenance whether it is a new or used unit. So, what should be of concern is the cost of any repairs you are going to make in the next six years. If you drove another six years and another 84,000 miles, there is little question the MB will last that long if you keep it repaired and serviced.
Taking a wild guess, let's set aside $20,000 to cover the non-maintenance repairs in the next six years. That would be an abnormal amount of money for that task and should be a very safe budget. Can you buy another MB with an extended warranty and drive it those six years and 84,000 miles for that kind of money? People buy very robust luxury model cars and drive them a fraction of the mileage they could really expect. If one just wants a newer car...great. If one wants to make a good financial decision...keep it!
Taking a wild guess, let's set aside $20,000 to cover the non-maintenance repairs in the next six years. That would be an abnormal amount of money for that task and should be a very safe budget. Can you buy another MB with an extended warranty and drive it those six years and 84,000 miles for that kind of money? People buy very robust luxury model cars and drive them a fraction of the mileage they could really expect. If one just wants a newer car...great. If one wants to make a good financial decision...keep it!
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With about $4000 trade-in value and people not buying cars due to unemployment - you will need to put lot of cash for upgrade.
My W212s have 130k and 180k on them. Run perfect, but I have diesels.
My W212s have 130k and 180k on them. Run perfect, but I have diesels.
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My first MB lasted 18 years before I had to put any money into it for non-maintenance issues. My 2016 E350 has been trouble free so far. So, IMO you can keep it for several more years, with a small slush fund {$5K} for anything major that might crop up.
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You might want to do the math. It has been about six years to do 84,000 miles. Maintenance is maintenance whether it is a new or used unit. So, what should be of concern is the cost of any repairs you are going to make in the next six years. If you drove another six years and another 84,000 miles, there is little question the MB will last that long if you keep it repaired and serviced.
Taking a wild guess, let's set aside $20,000 to cover the non-maintenance repairs in the next six years. That would be an abnormal amount of money for that task and should be a very safe budget. Can you buy another MB with an extended warranty and drive it those six years and 84,000 miles for that kind of money? People buy very robust luxury model cars and drive them a fraction of the mileage they could really expect. If one just wants a newer car...great. If one wants to make a good financial decision...keep it!
Taking a wild guess, let's set aside $20,000 to cover the non-maintenance repairs in the next six years. That would be an abnormal amount of money for that task and should be a very safe budget. Can you buy another MB with an extended warranty and drive it those six years and 84,000 miles for that kind of money? People buy very robust luxury model cars and drive them a fraction of the mileage they could really expect. If one just wants a newer car...great. If one wants to make a good financial decision...keep it!
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Carfax shows the trade-in value of my wife's (base model) 2014 Hyundai Sonata GLS at twice that amount. KBB trade-in is $8,500-$9,550. It has only 33,000 miles on it, but heck, it's not even a Honda. But it does have a 10-year powertrain warranty. And the Hyundai dealer service dept is infinitely more friendly.
My 2016 E350 with the same mileage shows $24,000.
I'd drive that Bluetec until the wheels fall off.
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KBB trade-in for his car is closer to $14K to $16K
https://www.kbb.com/mercedes-benz/e-...e|6388579|true
The key here is that the OP "loves the car" given that I agree with Jallen's analysis. IMHO his lowest operating costs will be to keep it and self insure.
I bought one at the point he is at now. 4 years and 50K miles later I am in $8K in scheduled ($4K) and unscheduled ($4K) maintenance plus $10K in depreciation. So that should give the OP some benchmark for what to expect. $18K/4 works out to $400 a month. Which is pretty cheap for a car that you "love". Could it be worse? Yes I got the transfer case rebuilt at an indy for $2.5K which would have been $8500 at the dealer for a whole new transmission. It cost me $1.5K to have the front diff replaced with a used one. Didn't quote that at the dealer but I bet it would have been like $4K. Not sure I really needed it as it was part of what I believe to be a misdiagnosis of the transfer case but they showed me metal in the fluid so who knows.
At a minimum he can expect to have to replace motor mounts ($1.5K) plus all the other schedule maintenance items. Also he can expect the wood to fade which would be prohibitively expensive to replace.
https://www.kbb.com/mercedes-benz/e-...e|6388579|true
The key here is that the OP "loves the car" given that I agree with Jallen's analysis. IMHO his lowest operating costs will be to keep it and self insure.
I bought one at the point he is at now. 4 years and 50K miles later I am in $8K in scheduled ($4K) and unscheduled ($4K) maintenance plus $10K in depreciation. So that should give the OP some benchmark for what to expect. $18K/4 works out to $400 a month. Which is pretty cheap for a car that you "love". Could it be worse? Yes I got the transfer case rebuilt at an indy for $2.5K which would have been $8500 at the dealer for a whole new transmission. It cost me $1.5K to have the front diff replaced with a used one. Didn't quote that at the dealer but I bet it would have been like $4K. Not sure I really needed it as it was part of what I believe to be a misdiagnosis of the transfer case but they showed me metal in the fluid so who knows.
At a minimum he can expect to have to replace motor mounts ($1.5K) plus all the other schedule maintenance items. Also he can expect the wood to fade which would be prohibitively expensive to replace.
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WOW, that's sad for a 6 year-old car.
Carfax shows the trade-in value of my wife's (base model) 2014 Hyundai Sonata GLS at twice that amount. KBB trade-in is $8,500-$9,550. It has only 33,000 miles on it, but heck, it's not even a Honda. But it does have a 10-year powertrain warranty. And the Hyundai dealer service dept is infinitely more friendly.
My 2016 E350 with the same mileage shows $24,000.
I'd drive that Bluetec until the wheels fall off.
Carfax shows the trade-in value of my wife's (base model) 2014 Hyundai Sonata GLS at twice that amount. KBB trade-in is $8,500-$9,550. It has only 33,000 miles on it, but heck, it's not even a Honda. But it does have a 10-year powertrain warranty. And the Hyundai dealer service dept is infinitely more friendly.
My 2016 E350 with the same mileage shows $24,000.
I'd drive that Bluetec until the wheels fall off.
Once these cars get much over 100k miles they aren't worth a whole lot.
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Another vote here to keep it. The later W212s are very reliable, and 84,000 miles is not that much. At 7 years of age my W203 had 145,000 miles and had never given me any serious trouble (and those were significantly less reliable).
Try to get them to replace engine mounts before October if there is any sort of weird vibration.
Don’t worry about extended warranties. Find a good independent shop to keep maintenance costs down. My 2016 is going to a good independent tomorrow for 40,000 service B. Total cost is less than $250 - that’s with everything. I did the cabin filter myself, provided my own parts for the oil change, and they’re doing the rest.
Try to get them to replace engine mounts before October if there is any sort of weird vibration.
Don’t worry about extended warranties. Find a good independent shop to keep maintenance costs down. My 2016 is going to a good independent tomorrow for 40,000 service B. Total cost is less than $250 - that’s with everything. I did the cabin filter myself, provided my own parts for the oil change, and they’re doing the rest.
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I would do another CPO, perhaps a 2018 model with about 35K miles on it. You get to keep the regular warranty, plus another 1 year with CPO, free 40K mile maintenance. If you'd like you can buy 2 year extension for less than 2K from one of the dealers on this forum. If you finance it at current rates which is pretty much close to 0%, you can get away doing a 6 year loan with $0 down at about $550 to $600 per month. That is including your 2 year extension warranty on the CPO. basically you get 4 years of unlimited miles of headache free ownership.
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@guitardudeman Your engine is the non-turbo M276 correct? This is possibly the most reliable engine MB has produced in the past 10 years. If you sell the car and stay with MB, new models have less reliable engines, due either to actual experience or lack of track record. The non-turbo M276 can be found in models as late as 2018 in the GLE350.
I would keep the vehicle because of engine reliability (for Mercedes but that’s another thread) and because you like it.
I would keep the vehicle because of engine reliability (for Mercedes but that’s another thread) and because you like it.
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I see it as you have 2 options here:
MONEY CHOICE = Drive it until the wheels fall off; maybe bank $5K-15K for repairs and extra for high mileage maintenance (think bushings)
EMOTIONAL CHOICE = Trade her in on something new to you be it USED or NEW and MB or BMW or YUGO but whatever makes ya smile!
Now I am cheapskate so stick with MONEY CHOICE
MONEY CHOICE = Drive it until the wheels fall off; maybe bank $5K-15K for repairs and extra for high mileage maintenance (think bushings)
EMOTIONAL CHOICE = Trade her in on something new to you be it USED or NEW and MB or BMW or YUGO but whatever makes ya smile!
Now I am cheapskate so stick with MONEY CHOICE
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New to the list guys.
I just picked up, from a dealer a 2016 E350 CPO with now 26k miles.
As it has the V6 engine, what number designation is it?
Also, as per another similar thread, cost of extended cpo would be how much? My present cpo ends in June (?) 2021.
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I just picked up, from a dealer a 2016 E350 CPO with now 26k miles.
As it has the V6 engine, what number designation is it?
Also, as per another similar thread, cost of extended cpo would be how much? My present cpo ends in June (?) 2021.
TIA
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A 2016 E350 has the naturally aspirated M276 V6. This is a reliable engine, although at 39k miles mine now has a common oil leak. This will be covered by warranty.
You'll need to search the forums for contacts on how to buy the extension. Last I heard it was $2100 or so.
You'll need to search the forums for contacts on how to buy the extension. Last I heard it was $2100 or so.
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A 2016 E350 has the naturally aspirated M276 V6. This is a reliable engine, although at 39k miles mine now has a common oil leak. This will be covered by warranty.
You'll need to search the forums for contacts on how to buy the extension. Last I heard it was $2100 or so.
You'll need to search the forums for contacts on how to buy the extension. Last I heard it was $2100 or so.
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@LILBENZ230 Where is the oil leak? My M265 3.5L NA is leaking at the both cam covers near the cam position sensors/adjusters. The dealer called this "vapors" 10k miles ago, not covered under warranty. I will ask again that they reseal the cam covers. Is the the same oil leak you have?
Which engine is M265?
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I posted about this in another thread, and one or two others replied saying they had similar experience with oil leaks that were less than quarts of oil pouring onto the garage floor. My dealer seems to have the attitude that if the oil isn't spurting out of the engine like a geyser, it isn't a problem. Also there is no warning light illuminated, which seems to be another reason the dealer isn't taking action.
It's this discussion/debate with my dealer that has completely soured me on the M-B brand. There are countless stories like this, and worse, on this site.
