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Old 03-19-2021, 11:26 PM
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Changing oil brand after 200,000 miles?

I’m getting close to another oil change on my 2014 diesel E250 as I approach 210,000 miles.

I have changed my own oil every 5,000 miles using MB branded 229.52 oil that’s been easy to find on Amazon. But it’s getting slightly harder to find (I don’t want to pay dealer prices) and even on Amazon it’s slightly more expensive than other brands.

I’m thinking of switching to liquimoly for the next oil change. They make a 229.52 spec oil. No overriding reason other than it’s a little cheaper and easier to get.

I’m also thinking that changing to a different oil brand after 200,000 miles might be a bad idea. I’ve owned her since new and never had any engine issues, and she still gets 40mpg on the hwy.

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I would stick with what has been working.
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As long as it meets the Mercedes specs, it should be fine.
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If it met VW 504.00 507.00 it would be superior to 229.52 !
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I would stick to what I have but oil is oil and I agree it should be OK as long as it meets Mercedes-Benz specs
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Pretty much oil is oil when formulated to meet a spec.

No worries.

I asked my dad the other day still driving in his 80's went thru many cars...
Ever had an engine fail? NOPE...

People worry about engines failing when it is a rare thing from just the oil you used....

Now engines fail for design reasons and NOT changing the oil but that is not the same thing.

Go for it save some $$$$$
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Oil is oil. Synthetic oil is synthetic oil.

Can't see how one can do better than Wally World's 5-qt jugs of Mobil 1 0w40 for just $23 or so.

Drive to any Walmart, cheap price, done.
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Old 03-20-2021, 10:10 AM
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Stick with what has worked for the life of this vehicle. If you switch now and something happens, regardless of the cause, you will always think it was the product change.
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Stick with what has worked for the life of this vehicle. If you switch now and something happens, regardless of the cause, you will always think it was the product change.
I suppose that mind game is true. But at 210,000+ miles when it happens, I would push the ride to the MB graveyard and giggle the whole way.

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But. . . kudos for keeping up the religious oil change schedule.

I've always advised folks that "Oil is cheaper than engines."
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Oil is better than no oil. If it meets the Benz spec, use it.
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Congrats for racking up 200K mileage. That's cool

Did you get a MB "high mileage award?"
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Congrats for racking up 200K mileage. That's cool

Did you get a MB "high mileage award?"
do they even offer those anymore? my wife's '94 E320 wagon has the 300kkm and 400kkm badges, the 300kkm is a nice metal badge, the 400kkm is a piece of plastic with fake gold chrome thats peeling off. Car is almost ready for the 500kkm but since we bought a new car we'll probably never get there (25k more miles)
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I don't know how you'll attach high mileage badges to these new grilles that they insist on offering. There would be no way to do it AFAIK on my E350 Sport.

Maybe they don't intend them to travel those distances anymore. Cars are increasingly disposable.
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"You can go into any mass retailer (Wal-Mart, Meijer, AutoZone, etc.) and buy a 5W/30 (or any other grade) that will perform well in your engine. One of the best-kept secrets of the oil industry is that these store brands are actually the same, quality oils that are produced by the major oil companies. The only difference between these products and the major company brands is the name on the container and the price. Don’t believe us? Try running your own experiment: do a sample on Oil A after a known number of miles, then do a sample on Oil B and compare the wear levels. You may see a little fluctuation, but it’s very rare for one oil to make a significant difference in an engine’s wear patterns."


"You can go into any mass retailer (Wal-Mart, Meijer, AutoZone, etc.) and buy a 5W/30 (or any other grade) that will perform well in your engine. One of the best-kept secrets of the oil industry is that these store brands are actually the same, quality oils that are produced by the major oil companies. The only difference between these products and the major company brands is the name on the container and the price. Don’t believe us? Try running your own experiment: do a sample on Oil A after a known number of miles, then do a sample on Oil B and compare the wear levels. You may see a little fluctuation, but it’s very rare for one oil to make a significant difference in an engine’s wear patterns."

"You can go into any mass retailer (Wal-Mart, Meijer, , etc.) and buyAutoZone a 5W/30 (or any other grade) that will perform well in your engine. One of the best-kept secrets of the oil industry is that these store brands are actually the same, quality oils that are produced by the major oil companies. The only difference between these products and the major company brands is the name on the container and the price. Don’t believe us? Try running your own experiment: do a sample on Oil A after a known number of miles, then do a sample on Oil B and compare the wr levels. You may see a little fluctuation, but it’s very rare for one oil to make a significant difference in an engine’s wear pat
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I am at (almost) 100k using Mobil-1 0W-40 every 10k miles on my m272 c300. Runs like a dream, never burns oil, always comes out clean.

No need to change if you don't have to, but if it's not
OE MB, Mobil-1, or Liqui Moly
then don't use it!

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do they even offer those anymore? my wife's '94 E320 wagon has the 300kkm and 400kkm badges, the 300kkm is a nice metal badge, the 400kkm is a piece of plastic with fake gold chrome thats peeling off. Car is almost ready for the 500kkm but since we bought a new car we'll probably never get there (25k more miles)
Here's the current link to the mileage badge application form... https://www.mbusa.com/content/dam/mb...2019-02-28.pdf

OP certainly qualifies for the 250,000km badge (155,000 miles).
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Originally Posted by DFWdude
Here's the current link to the mileage badge application form... https://www.mbusa.com/content/dam/mb...2019-02-28.pdf

OP certainly qualifies for the 250,000km badge (155,000 miles).
I should sign up my '05 E320 CDI. Just passed 179,000 miles! Still pushes the car far quicker than my '13 E350 4matic.
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Originally Posted by nikobimmer
I’m getting close to another oil change on my 2014 diesel E250 as I approach 210,000 miles.

I have changed my own oil every 5,000 miles using MB branded 229.52 oil that’s been easy to find on Amazon. But it’s getting slightly harder to find (I don’t want to pay dealer prices) and even on Amazon it’s slightly more expensive than other brands.

I’m thinking of switching to liquimoly for the next oil change. They make a 229.52 spec oil. No overriding reason other than it’s a little cheaper and easier to get.

I’m also thinking that changing to a different oil brand after 200,000 miles might be a bad idea. I’ve owned her since new and never had any engine issues, and she still gets 40mpg on the hwy.

Thoughts?
just get the correct liquimoly oil. it's what I used in my R350 Diesel and never had any issues. I use it(different weight) in my E550 too...no sense in wasting money since it is equivalent
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My personal opinion....oil is oil....it's the additive package that is different. If it was mine, I'd keep running the same as all along.
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Not quite there are five oil basestock groups .

It's better to say a spec is a spec , as in a manufacturer oil specification should be made up of a preset list of ingredients ( recipe ) to achieve that manufacturers oil performance profile .
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Originally Posted by DFWdude
Here's the current link to the mileage badge application form... https://www.mbusa.com/content/dam/mb...2019-02-28.pdf

OP certainly qualifies for the 250,000km badge (155,000 miles).
Need to fill up the form at the dealer who verifies the mileage and signs the application. Then mail it to the address in Germany and it takes like 3-4 months to get the badge.
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Originally Posted by DFWdude
Oil is oil. Synthetic oil is synthetic oil.
Can't see how one can do better than Wally World's 5-qt jugs of Mobil 1 0w40 for just $23 or so.
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Easy.


Better to say, no better oil than Mobil 1 that I know of.




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I am buying 229.52 Motul on amazon or Walmart for good price.
With 5000 oil change I'd send the sample for lab testing. Per all the knowledge, you are harming your engine. Not much, by slimmer chances to get it to 1 million. miles
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