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Old 10-02-2021, 06:21 AM
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195hp E250 bluetec Stage 1 tune and adblueoff results?

I would like to do a stage 1 tune and ad blue delete on a (after i buy it) 2015 w212r e250 bluetec 195hp. As i said i currently dont have this car in my posession so I cant take it to the tuner and ask him personaly but i would like to know beforehand if someone has done this, what results did it have, and should I even consider it.
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You choose to not disclosure your location, but there is no place in the World, where tampering with emission system is legal.
Why would you like to poison yourself, your family and all people around?
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You choose to not disclosure your location, but there is no place in the World, where tampering with emission system is legal.
Why would you like to poison yourself, your family and all people around?
First of all, its not illegal at least where i live. If I do end up getting a tune and adblue delete I am going to do it at APR and I dont think they would advertise something if it was illegal. Secondly, what I asked for was the gains the car could make from this and a stage 1 tune. How much hp and torque gains can I expect?
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I already pointed that the only gain with DEF delete will be poisoning people around.
You better check your local law as ignorance is not valid excuse for breaking it.
There are no tunes that can beat MB original tune on those engines.
You can gain few HP by over fueling the engine, but that comes with fuel and reliability penalty.
Lousy gain IMHO.
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First of all, its not illegal at least where i live. If I do end up getting a tune and adblue delete I am going to do it at APR and I dont think they would advertise something if it was illegal. Secondly, what I asked for was the gains the car could make from this and a stage 1 tune. How much hp and torque gains can I expect?
I do not think you got the intent of his message. He strongly meant "socially irresponsible".

Laws are created with the only purpose to deter those who do not have common sense to participate in the society. If we were all good, great common sense, and work in the best interest of everyone laws will not exist
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I just had a stage 2 tune put on my old old W211 bluetec and it's like a brand new car. I did a DPF and EGR delete as well. I can light up the tires pretty easily now...
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W211 never come with 4-cylinders diesels and they did not have DEF, what is the subject here.
I used to drive 2009 E320 Bluetec and it was burning tires on dry asphalt any time I wanted, so if you could not do it without tune, something was wrong with it.
I can burn tires on dry asphalt with my 4-cylinder as well, but that takes turning E mode off.

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W211 never come with 4-cylinders diesels and they did not have DEF, what is the subject here.
I used to drive 2009 E320 Bluetec and it was burning tires on dry asphalt any time I wanted, so if you could not do it without tune, something was wrong with it.
I can burn tires on dry asphalt with my 4-cylinder as well, but that takes turning E mode off.
I have the OM642, never said it was a 4-cyl. It does not have DEF, but does have the terrible DPF. I now belch black smoke out and **** off people like you, so it's a win-win.
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Leave it along. The massive torque curve on this diesels is on par with a small block V8. Just take it to the dealer to get your emission software update for free and call it done.
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I have the OM642, never said it was a 4-cyl. It does not have DEF, but does have the terrible DPF. I now belch black smoke out and **** off people like you, so it's a win-win.
Again, the only way to have black smoke from Bluetec is to neglect it.

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